Green Mamba
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I think I got up to the model making Fox quest and I was like, "Yeah I've had enough of this."
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Persona Community Thread |OT5| Pull up a chair! [NO PQ OR P4U SPOILERS!]
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I wanna know what Yu is doing with the fox that takes up an entire afternoon.
I completed your damn quest fox, leave me be!
I completed your damn quest fox, leave me be!
I'm currently on my third run overall of P4, although the first time I'm playing the PS3 version and somehow I managed to finish the Fox S.link, while Margaret's still in rank 7 (I still need some more cash to buy more stuff from the compendium). I won't finish like 4 or 5 of them (Rise, Shu, Ai, Yumi and maybe Naoto)
To provide a different answer than my usual "Yosuke, Kanji and Rise's S.links are the ones I like the most", I'm going to answer that I'm really enjoying Hisano's S.link (Death) during this run. The one I've enjoyed the less? Huh... Fox, I guess :lol
To provide a different answer than my usual "Yosuke, Kanji and Rise's S.links are the ones I like the most", I'm going to answer that I'm really enjoying Hisano's S.link (Death) during this run. The one I've enjoyed the less? Huh... Fox, I guess :lol
RockderBanja
Member
Oh yes, probably one of my favorite S.Links.
The scene where his Arcana changes is absolutely one of my favorite scenes added to Golden.
Xenoflare
Member
How do you explain the fact that the Fox had little ones by the end of the game after maxing it's link?
Heh heh heh heh heh
I'm sure that afternoon was fun..
The fox has little ones?
Xenoflare
Member
Well, if you visit the fox again on
3/20 it will appear with a bunch of fox cubs, it's implied that they are it's children
Xenoflare
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By the by, any 3DS users here have dents or scratches on their 3DS's circle pad? I have one that looks very deep but cannot be felt at all, tried the eraser trick but it didn't really work.
It's mostly cosmetic since I don't think any rubber actually peeled off, but it annoys me a bit.
It's mostly cosmetic since I don't think any rubber actually peeled off, but it annoys me a bit.
Persona 4
Best:
Kou Ichijou (Strength): Kou's social link offered the perfect balance of lighthearted fun, drama and character development. It was particularly great at conveying this sense of unity between the protagonist and his 2 friend. Like all of a sudden, you were back in highschool, hanging out with your closest friends and shooting the shit. It's filled with a handful of *fun* events, and the ending is actually pretty poignant. It also has the distinction of being one of the s.links where the s.link character doesn't have their issues completely fixed by the protagonist's help.
She gets so wrapped up in trying to be this perfect girl, it causes her to lose sight of who truly is (i'm talking trying to sound fancy here; she literally starts to act, eat and dress in a way that she doesn't want to), and it really screws her up. I'm also a fan of this s.link because it's one of the few romance s.links in the game that don't feel forced. Heck, you get punished for trying to date her when she's emotionally vulnerable. Take that!
Best:
Kou Ichijou (Strength): Kou's social link offered the perfect balance of lighthearted fun, drama and character development. It was particularly great at conveying this sense of unity between the protagonist and his 2 friend. Like all of a sudden, you were back in highschool, hanging out with your closest friends and shooting the shit. It's filled with a handful of *fun* events, and the ending is actually pretty poignant. It also has the distinction of being one of the s.links where the s.link character doesn't have their issues completely fixed by the protagonist's help.
Ai Ebihara (Moon): I've already talked about at length about why I think Ai's social link is amazing, so i'll just reiterate my main point; her social link is an awesome deconstruction of the impossible double standard that woman (high school girls to be specific) are often held up to.
She was bullied when she was *ugly* and called a bitch/slut/etc when she became *pretty*.
Yosuke (Hopeless Idiot): Maybe it's because I can totally empathize with the character, or maybe it's because i'm a useless piece of trash who loves Yosuke, but this social link just clicked for me. It gives you some necessary insight into what makes him tick, and it was just a fun ride throughout. It felt nice seeing Yosuke's relaxed self for a change (wholly distinct from his spirited-but-tactless persona from the main story). I also appreciated the fact that you could actually comfort the guy in his time of need; his rank 8 is probably one of the most poignant scenes in the entire game, and it really defines his relationship with the protagonist. Bromance jokes aside, there's this genuine intimate bond that the protagonist ends up cultivating with Yosuke over the social link.
Goddamn I love Yosuke's social link. I like him in the main story too. He's just a fucking real guy, man. He's all sorts of messed up with complexes galore, but his heart is in the right place and he's trying figure out how he's supposed to react to the situations he's placed and the people around him.
MiguelMexMIstery
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P3:
Most Favorite: Yukari, Mitsuru, Akinari, Mutatsu and Mamoru
Least Favorite: Yuko. I don't know, ever since I met her I hated her lol I really hated doing all the love stuff with her just to unlock Mutatsu's social link.
P4:
Most Favorite: Yosuke, Rise, Dojima and Ai.
Least Favorite: I suppose Hisano or Eri. Both of them didn't click me so I only did like rank 2 or 3 of their social links.
Isn't that the same to every social link except for the characters related to the story?
Why are Persona games so good...
I just realized that they're the only games where I can chill or go hardcore with the battle system and not tire myself out. The social/dungeon crawling split is really awesome.
EDIT: And am I the only one who was bored with Rise's Social Link? I understand how everyone likes her so there's that...but everybody knew how the SL would end up from the very beginning. It would have been more interesting if there was an actual peek into her showbiz life.
People bash on Yukiko's Social Link but it really isn't too far from Rise.
The Yasogami High Social Links were the best ones. In retrospect, most of the other ones (outside of the story characters) did feel like filler. I wish they did more with Hisano instead of beating around the bush.
I just realized that they're the only games where I can chill or go hardcore with the battle system and not tire myself out. The social/dungeon crawling split is really awesome.
EDIT: And am I the only one who was bored with Rise's Social Link? I understand how everyone likes her so there's that...but everybody knew how the SL would end up from the very beginning. It would have been more interesting if there was an actual peek into her showbiz life.
People bash on Yukiko's Social Link but it really isn't too far from Rise.
The Yasogami High Social Links were the best ones. In retrospect, most of the other ones (outside of the story characters) did feel like filler. I wish they did more with Hisano instead of beating around the bush.
Xenoflare
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Isn't that the same to every social link except for the characters related to the story?
Well at least you need some substance to flesh out the characters, Sayoko's one of the worst.
Marge and Fox at least had sidequests to keep it going, I gave my reasons earlier.
Sayoko's social link goes to complete shit when the sex-well dries up. I'm not even joking. Because even if it was lowbrow and somewhat creepy, it was at least entertaining.
Her social link offers nothing of value. It's just dull and uninspired, and filled with platitudes about life. I love how she gets this huge epiphany towards the end, and acts like the protagonist made her realize the errors of her ways or some shit. You don't do a damn thing.
Her social link offers nothing of value. It's just dull and uninspired, and filled with platitudes about life. I love how she gets this huge epiphany towards the end, and acts like the protagonist made her realize the errors of her ways or some shit. You don't do a damn thing.
Immaculate
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my old 3ds has that but i think it was because my fingernail used to dig into the circle pad when i played. you could only see the marks if you held it at an angle(even then it was annoying) but after getting another 3ds i stopped holding the circle pad like i used too.
also whats the eraser trick?
Xenoflare
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I'm facing the exact "issue" nice to know that I'm not really the only one, and yeah, it only shows up when you tilt it a little, which is bugging me to no end right now, since I discovered it today, my 3DS is a little over a year old.
The thing is that my nail never touched it, and the dent is vertical.
The eraser trick is basically use a kneaded eraser to remove some light marks on the circle pad, it worked wonderfully for the small scratches but that weird smudge looking dent isn't going anywhere.
I'm asking because I don't know if it will get worse, I don't feel it at all while playing, just hope it will keep it that way for a long time.
RockderBanja
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Social Links huh?
Well,
P3
Best: Akinari. I actually looked forward to Sundays ingame just to talk to this dude.
Worst: Nozomi. Don't get me wrong Kenji's is awful, but his doesn't even compare to the mountain of shit that Nozomi's is. Everything from his portrait to personality pissed me off, and I felt like any time I spent with him was wasted.
P4
Best: Naoki. I honestly really loved his. What I thought would be a whiny dude, turned out to be a pretty endearing guy.
Worst: Margaret/Fox: I didn't feel any real social elements here, and felt that they were just added to fill up arcana, their gameplay portions were annoying as hell too.
Well,
P3
Best: Akinari. I actually looked forward to Sundays ingame just to talk to this dude.
Worst: Nozomi. Don't get me wrong Kenji's is awful, but his doesn't even compare to the mountain of shit that Nozomi's is. Everything from his portrait to personality pissed me off, and I felt like any time I spent with him was wasted.
P4
Best: Naoki. I honestly really loved his. What I thought would be a whiny dude, turned out to be a pretty endearing guy.
Worst: Margaret/Fox: I didn't feel any real social elements here, and felt that they were just added to fill up arcana, their gameplay portions were annoying as hell too.
Social link ranks:
P3
Best - Tie between Maya and Maiko. If I HAD to choose, probably Maiko. I was legitimately teary eyed at the end of hers.
Worst - The student council guy. Yeah, that's right, not Kenji. I don't even remember his name, but the students council dude is literally the only SLink I intentionally stopped doing because I didn't like the character. Maybe he gest better, but ranks 1-3 he sucks.
Unhinorable mention - also not a fan of Bebe
P4
Best - having a hard time thinking of a standout. I think, overall, the Links in P4 are better than P3, fewer duds, but I don't have a standout favorite. Nanako, Adachi, Chie, Yosuke, Kanji, Dojima are all pretty good, but my favorite 3 or 4 are all from P3
Worst - Hasano. Wasn't really bad, but I never wanted to hang out with her. When I'm planning my day, "help an old woman I barely know stop feeling guilty about her husband's death" is low on my list of fun things to do.
P3
Best - Tie between Maya and Maiko. If I HAD to choose, probably Maiko. I was legitimately teary eyed at the end of hers.
Worst - The student council guy. Yeah, that's right, not Kenji. I don't even remember his name, but the students council dude is literally the only SLink I intentionally stopped doing because I didn't like the character. Maybe he gest better, but ranks 1-3 he sucks.
Unhinorable mention - also not a fan of Bebe
P4
Best - having a hard time thinking of a standout. I think, overall, the Links in P4 are better than P3, fewer duds, but I don't have a standout favorite. Nanako, Adachi, Chie, Yosuke, Kanji, Dojima are all pretty good, but my favorite 3 or 4 are all from P3
Worst - Hasano. Wasn't really bad, but I never wanted to hang out with her. When I'm planning my day, "help an old woman I barely know stop feeling guilty about her husband's death" is low on my list of fun things to do.
If it makes you feel any better, I started EP right after IS like five months ago, and I've only recently beaten the asylum.
RedGraveXIII
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social links social links social links
P3
Best: Aigis, she's such an endearing character. I thought her existential crisis was very well done, her desire to become a human was heartbreaking. As far as character dynamics go, I find Makoto's and Aigis's relationship to be one of the most interesting in the Persona series.
Maya, for obvious reasons.
Akinari,
Honorable Mention: Maiko, she was cute.
Worst: Bunkichi and Mitsuko, Not a bad social link but I just found it boring. Who wants to hang out with old people?
P4
Best: Kanji. The guy has a heart of gold, it's hard not to root for him. Helping him overcome his insecurities was one of my favorite moments of P4.
Ai. Didn't think I would like this one as much as I did. Ai's situation seemed very true to life, a vulnerable girl hiding behind a mean bitch facade.
Teddie. Watching this strange bear creature make friends and find meaning in life gave me warm, fuzzy feelings.
Nanako, no explanation needed.
P3
Best: Aigis, she's such an endearing character. I thought her existential crisis was very well done, her desire to become a human was heartbreaking. As far as character dynamics go, I find Makoto's and Aigis's relationship to be one of the most interesting in the Persona series.
Maya, for obvious reasons.
Akinari,
his social link was all about coping with the inevitability of death which is P3 in a nutshell. Memento mori.
Worst: Bunkichi and Mitsuko, Not a bad social link but I just found it boring. Who wants to hang out with old people?
P4
Best: Kanji. The guy has a heart of gold, it's hard not to root for him. Helping him overcome his insecurities was one of my favorite moments of P4.
Ai. Didn't think I would like this one as much as I did. Ai's situation seemed very true to life, a vulnerable girl hiding behind a mean bitch facade.
Teddie. Watching this strange bear creature make friends and find meaning in life gave me warm, fuzzy feelings.
Adachi. It's not that the social link itself was particularly good, but I thought it was great how it tied into the story. Adachi having a social link made him being the culprit way less obvious. That note he sends you after maxing out his social link was also great.
Yeah, I didn't really like this S Link too much. Wasn't even written that well enough to make it too interesting to me. It was just kinda there, and I didn't really feel for the character's problem too much. The shift after the first few S Links was a drastic change too, so it didn't feel like it attributed to anything.
At least it was easy to get out of the way and finish.
MudoSkills
Volcano High Alumnus (Cum Laude)
Seems like I'm the only person who liked Naoki's social link. As for worst, can't say I particularly cared about Shu. And Marie is just awful, obviously.
Velcro Fly
Member
I love Dojima and Nanako's links. I think finding Marie's poetry is worse than her social link. I do like Naoki's link too. I can relate to Chie's growth during her link so I like her link as well.
Worst for P4 has to be picking Yumi for Sun. She's so whiny and seems to almost hate you that I could never romance her. Even with Sayoko when you are just standing there listening to her problems most of the time she's at least grateful. Yumi rubbed me the wrong way.
As for P3, I loved the old couple and the monk in the bar. I loved spending time with the old couple and I loved picking away at the rough exterior of Mutatsu to reveal his hidden pain and finally pushing him in the direction of redemption. Also loved Maiko and Maya.
I wasn't fond of Moon. It's been awhile since I've played but I remember not liking him. Kenji is honestly so bad it's funny. I always looked at him like a joke.
Worst for P4 has to be picking Yumi for Sun. She's so whiny and seems to almost hate you that I could never romance her. Even with Sayoko when you are just standing there listening to her problems most of the time she's at least grateful. Yumi rubbed me the wrong way.
As for P3, I loved the old couple and the monk in the bar. I loved spending time with the old couple and I loved picking away at the rough exterior of Mutatsu to reveal his hidden pain and finally pushing him in the direction of redemption. Also loved Maiko and Maya.
I wasn't fond of Moon. It's been awhile since I've played but I remember not liking him. Kenji is honestly so bad it's funny. I always looked at him like a joke.
RockderBanja
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Definitely my favorite link in Persona 4, so you are not alone! I don't know too many people who do like it though.
Don't kill me for this, but while I like social links and the idea of them, I find myself bored when I get to the middle of the ranks 75% of the time. The beginning and ending are usually good, but I feel like ranks 3-6/7 are barely indistinguishable from each for me with a major portion of the links. Edit: Another thing about social links, is that while I do enjoy them, I definitely don't enjoy going through them a 3rd or 4th time in subsequent playthroughs. I can only hope that, if links are back for 5, they have variations to go through much like the Sun or Strength links in 4.
Definitely one of those games that I'm like "I could play this BUT"
Meanwhile I'm vicariously playing P4G again through my little bro. So good.
Immaculate
Banned
oh god the p4 animation is terrible. funny enough its the animation itself. it looks like a flash youtube cartoon sometimes holy shit
SpacePirate Ridley
Member
Happy birthday Dantis!
I completely forgot this guy existed until near the end of the game. I should get on his S.Link for my next playthrough.
Happy birthday, Dantis!
RedGraveXIII
Neo Member
Happy birthday, Dantis.
This is incredible.I think it's a structural problem with the way social links are written as of P4 (one-on-one stuff mainly that doesn't necessarily reflect how you naturally spend time with most people irl)
names2hard4you
Member
Happy birthday Dantis!
On the topic of social links, for me it's kinda hard to just pick a few. I feel like they all add on to the experience... But let me try to narrow things down a bit.
P3: Yukari, Aigis and Maiko I along with Akinari and maybe even the elderly couple from the book store. All great stories. Did not care for Kenji or the food King too much. Also the Council president guy.
P4: This one is full of social links that I like even though this isn't my favorite of the two games. I mean it has standouts like Dojima, Nanako, Yosuke, Chie, heck even Yukiko and definitely Ai. Was a little bored with Rise but she's cool too. I can't really think of any social links that I was just like "Urgh what a slog" lol. Persona 3 had some if those, but the world, the theme and tone around the game just won me over. Just like in real life there were some people that just didn't click with me I guess aha.
Love Deterrence
Member
Happy birthday!!!!
Dante Morgan
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sackboy2197
Member
Happy Birthday!
Happy Birthday Captain Dantis!
Beelzebub was a damn good prize though.
If nothing else the Social Links almost always gave great Personers.
Beelzebub was a damn good prize though.
If nothing else the Social Links almost always gave great Personers.
Willsmith1991
Neo Member
Happy birthday =)
No you don't. Yoshitsune is a special spread fusion, but not the ultimate Persona. Shiva is the ultimate of the Tower Arcana. Moon was probably referring to the ludicrous bonus experience.
I feel like the mileage for this S.Link may vary depending on your cultural context.
For us Asians, we place high importance on academics. We feel great when our parents are able to walk around and tout that their child is a natural genius. On the other hand, we will be guilt-tripping all over the place if we do less than expected.
Even though I can't personally relate to Shu, I felt that his story could have happened to any one of my friends.
Except that Shu still had a supportive family when he got caught and he didn't wind up taking his own life, unlike the cases that I know.
Maybe it may be my international naiveté, but I don't expect Westerners to have the same cultural understanding for this S.Link to work on an emotional level.
Perhaps. Moonlight's comment made me thought that there was a Persona needed to fuse Yoshitsune locked behind the S.link, actually.
snow in jamaica
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I searched for a Naoto cake and birthday image and ran into catsuit. H-Happy birthday
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I usually recommend Naoki's link. I thought it was really well-done,
helping a classmate overcome the societal difficulties and prejudices pushed upon him on the event of his sister's death, and having him come to terms with that loss
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