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Persona Community Thread |OT7| P5 is nyaow. (Mark all PQ and P4U spoilers!)
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No one at Atlus actually remembers Lisa
I wouldn't see why they wouldn't include P5 on the badge. After all,, out of all possible games they could feature on the card, it's the biggest out of all of them, and no matter what would be released before E3 of next year.
It just wouldn't make sense not to showcase it. Even more so to make Dancing All Night a feature presentation for a second year in a row.
It just wouldn't make sense not to showcase it. Even more so to make Dancing All Night a feature presentation for a second year in a row.
Silver Arrows
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I guess there isn't really something that deems one side to be the "front," but it was obvious that the 2013 badge insert had Dragon's Crown as the "main" art, while SMTIV was made to be placed within it.
A Dead Diehard
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Killll meeeee... O_O
atlusprime
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Reminder: Tomorrow there will be a free stream for Persona 3: The Weird Masquerade ~The Blue Awakening~ at 7:00 AM ET / 4:00 AM PT. Doesn't seem like it'll be region locked, either.
I've never watched one of these outside of a few YouTube clips, so I'll tune in.
I've never watched one of these outside of a few YouTube clips, so I'll tune in.
Persona 3 Weird Masquerade is silly , hilarious and amazing in the same time.
And see "the characters" dance all night the P3 tracks is priceless.
This one i think is my favorite scene in both stage plays , this is P3 WM in a nutshell , have everything the dancing , singing the "fighting" hahaha oh god.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bD7_VDPLyqU
But beside of the silly stuff , i think the costumes are perfect , the cast is great and make justice to the characters even in little details like fighting stances or even persona summoning
Junpei , Aigis and Fukka are frickin perfect.
In short is a silly shit , but i love it is a guilty pleasure.
Wonder which version are going to stream the Male MC or the Female MC one , and they going to stream part 1 and part 2 right ...
And see "the characters" dance all night the P3 tracks is priceless.
This one i think is my favorite scene in both stage plays , this is P3 WM in a nutshell , have everything the dancing , singing the "fighting" hahaha oh god.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bD7_VDPLyqU
But beside of the silly stuff , i think the costumes are perfect , the cast is great and make justice to the characters even in little details like fighting stances or even persona summoning
Junpei , Aigis and Fukka are frickin perfect.
In short is a silly shit , but i love it is a guilty pleasure.
Wonder which version are going to stream the Male MC or the Female MC one , and they going to stream part 1 and part 2 right ...
Good question, actually. I just checked the page, and it seems they'll be streaming both the male and female P3MC versions of the play tomorrow.
Great.
Good choice since both MC are popular in Japan , but seems (in facebook and Tumblr) Shouta Aoi (Male MC) is more popular than Kana Asumi (Female MC)
And of course both stage play are the same thing , but have little diferences thanks to the diferent personalities of the MC.
Well, delay it is then, I guess. It probably won't even come out in Q4.
Bleh. It's so hard to stay hyped over this game.
CrimsonFist
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Only 19 days until we learn everything we could want to know about it though.
Dancing is likely to be taking center stage at E3, but I'd be shocked if P5 had no presence whatsoever.
CrimsonFist
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https://instagram.com/p/3kTc52v5Ua/
Who's that in that image?
Pretty much, whatever P5's presence is, whether we get a new trailer or not, it's not going to be playable. It might be the bigger game, but Dancing is what they're going to be pushing at the moment, on top of all the other stuff they have.
Who's that in that image?
Pretty much, whatever P5's presence is, whether we get a new trailer or not, it's not going to be playable. It might be the bigger game, but Dancing is what they're going to be pushing at the moment, on top of all the other stuff they have.
Vox Chaotica
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If Persona 5 is not represented at E3 in any form, or is delayed in NA to 2016, I will give up my claim as the Ultimate Sho Fanboy and refrain from image edits until P5's release
That is how much I #BELIEVE in Persona 5, no matter how much it hurts ;__;
That is how much I #BELIEVE in Persona 5, no matter how much it hurts ;__;
That's a lot of faith. I do think they will show the game off in some way. Atlus are surely aware of the demand of new information for the West, for Persona 5.
UltraGunner
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I'm prepared for delays. Everything gets delayed at least once.
I didn't say that. It's just that it won't have a strong focus at E3 at Atlus' booth, which makes sense considering they'll actually have a demo for P4D and probably a trailer on loop for P5.
It's just such a shame because this is the last E3 before P5, so I was hoping we'd get a big to-do for the game. Doesn't seem to be the case though. Woulda killed to get a P5 shirt at the booth.
Luckily, Persona 5 got its delay out of the way already! Remember when it was supposed to be in Winter 2014?
A Dead Diehard
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Sure do. They emancipated from that pretty quick.
GamingBird
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Anyone here over 25? Just imagine, before the next series of spinoffs for p5 and p6 are out you very well could be over 30 years of age.
I wonder if being over 30 changes our mindset in a way that hinders the enjoyment of persona series.
I wonder if being over 30 changes our mindset in a way that hinders the enjoyment of persona series.
KenjiGlove
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People grow and change their tastes all the time. I don't think that it's something arbitrary like being over 30 though.
GamingBird
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But we live in arbitrariness though
MysticDistance
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So, after some analyzing, I've decided to give my views on everything so far.
For the badge, I think one side will be P4D, and the other will be P5.
I think P5 is still coming out this year in North America, and that Atlus USA will mention the game or show an English version of the February trailer. P4D will get the main spotlight, but they probably won't forget about P5.
When it comes to that teaser image posted on Instagram, it makes me wonder. The outfit looks very similar to the Shujin High School uniform, however, the text states "Are you ready to dance?" which is definitely a P4D teaser. It's just something I noticed.
I feel we'll get info on the Japanese release of P5 soon, as there's really nothing much that ATLUS has to release (in Japan) this year. I still say October 15, 2015, but honestly, the release date could be within October~November. I really don't think they'll go with December for P5 in Japan.
That's pretty much all for now, but I hope everyone enjoyed my little analysis. As usual, I'll be working hard on figuring out as much as I can using what's available to us.
For the badge, I think one side will be P4D, and the other will be P5.
I think P5 is still coming out this year in North America, and that Atlus USA will mention the game or show an English version of the February trailer. P4D will get the main spotlight, but they probably won't forget about P5.
When it comes to that teaser image posted on Instagram, it makes me wonder. The outfit looks very similar to the Shujin High School uniform, however, the text states "Are you ready to dance?" which is definitely a P4D teaser. It's just something I noticed.
I feel we'll get info on the Japanese release of P5 soon, as there's really nothing much that ATLUS has to release (in Japan) this year. I still say October 15, 2015, but honestly, the release date could be within October~November. I really don't think they'll go with December for P5 in Japan.
That's pretty much all for now, but I hope everyone enjoyed my little analysis. As usual, I'll be working hard on figuring out as much as I can using what's available to us.
KenjiGlove
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Maybe I used the wrong word.
The point that I'm trying to make is that the time when people grow out of things is different for every individual. I might stop caring for Persona when I'm 25, 40 or maybe never.
It's not like everyone will stop caring for it when they've reached the age of 30
I still find this wierd. It just seems odd to not give P5 the spotlight if it's going to be at E3 (Is P5 confirmed at E3 BTW? not sure.)
There are so, so much more people interested in Persona 5 compared to DAN.
P4D will still be coming out before Persona 5. Most likely they don't want too much of the limelight to be taken away if they focused too much on P5, especially with no "exclusive P5 content" incentive to speak of.
Really curious to see what's the event that Atlus is going to reveal next week. I'm liking that the teaser got a touch of "gentlemanliness" to it. Maybe some P5 involvement hopefully?
I even recently got myself a second Vita to be a dedicated R1 game machine for P4D's DLC and what's not. Not gonna miss out on those outfits cuz I'm stuck on the R3 Asian (Singapore) store. Got my first Vita for P4G, now second Vita for P4D.
The things AtlusUSA made me do D=
GamingBird
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Hey at least you guys got Lost Song eng sub earliest this time! Ur 1st vita is oled, is ur 2nd vita the 2000?
maybe...
MysticDistance
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Oh, I completely agree with you, don't get me wrong. I want P5 to be in the spotlight. I say this because we have a release window for P4D now in North America, and judging by certain VA being done, etc., it's safe to assume the game is nearly done localization and that they'd most likely show a full English trailer by this point.
I also believe P5 won't get the spotlight as it doesn't make sense to show a new trailer (not one we've seen in either region) before Japan. It just doesn't make sense in the long run, unless the game is a worldwide release or something similar.
P5 will most likely get a mention, the February trailer shown, and a lot of hype, however, I feel P4D will be the main thing people will see Persona-wise at the Atlus USA booth due to the type of circumstances (localization almost being done, it having a release window in NA, etc.)
Of course, it's possible that P5 will get a huge spotlight, but at this point, it doesn't seem likely at E3, if we're talking about news on the game in general, and not just news for North America. I can't imagine Atlus USA showing an exclusive trailer for P5 before Japan. P4D is still coming out before P5 in North America, from what we know so far. However, I do believe that Instagram teaser could be a thing for both P4D and P5, due to the outfit resembling the P5MC's a lot. I don't mean this would be a new trailer, just a video that says "Are you ready to dance at this E3? P4D and P5 will be there!" That's a possibility, however, as I said, it most likely won't be a new trailer for P5 there, just the February one in English. That's just my opinion, however.
TheMrPliskin
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I'd say it makes total sense in the long run, if Atlus wants the series to continue to grow then they need as many eyes on the game as possible and E3 is the best place to do that.
DryEyeRelief
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That was interesting. I only caught the second show. The actress playing Mitsuru sounded like the original VA.
Yep. 1 1000 OLED model, the other one is the 2000 model.
Spectrasonic
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Vox Chaotica
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The lack of Persona 5 information is making me do some crazy things
A Dead Diehard
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So I finally beat
PQ.
Also, the similarities to
are coming right at me! Help me get these theory goggles off!
the four labyrinths in
The scene about Niko and Chronos' origin is some raw as hell shit. Major props to Ashly Burch and Keith Silverstien.
Also, the similarities to
Labrys
Nope, just role with it, it's the best theory. You're not the first to see it either. I agree, that scene rocks. It's worth the slow build up just for that, I reckon.
So for anybody in the know, how does the mythology of the Persona series work?
So beyond
entities like Philemon, Nyarlathotep, the Velvet siblings and Igor are born from the collective unconsciousness, and that Personae summoned by the protagonists are born from their own "sea of souls" and represent aspects of their personality, so Yosuke's Susano-O represents something different than Masao's from Persona 1, or the one summoned by the P3 protagonist, and they all aren't summoned from the exact same place.
But how does that differentiate, say, the ultimate villain of P4
, and in PQ
, but what separates him and, say, the Persona Thanatos?
Also, did they ever try to link up the Demons from P1 and 2 and the Shadows from 3 and 4? I just assumed that they came into being because of all the reality altering shenanigans of those games, but they sometimes act like actual, independent entities, while the Shadows are described as fragments of human thought from the collective unconsciousness, which come to think of it confuses me more since
So beyond
Nyx, who's actually a Lovecraft-style alien.
But how does that differentiate, say, the ultimate villain of P4
with how she's apparently an independent Philemon-style entity, but also appears in P2's extra PSP scenario as something different, and can be summoned by the P3 protagonist as a normal Persona
Zen is born from the idea of a being who carries the dead to their resting place, effectively making him the Grim Reaper
Also, did they ever try to link up the Demons from P1 and 2 and the Shadows from 3 and 4? I just assumed that they came into being because of all the reality altering shenanigans of those games, but they sometimes act like actual, independent entities, while the Shadows are described as fragments of human thought from the collective unconsciousness, which come to think of it confuses me more since
Shadows and Personae are supposed to be the same thing.
As far as I know, this is thorougly explained in a Japanese only book that was released sometime after Persona 3 came out. Someone on Tumblr translated the relevant parts of the book once. Also, the Tatsuya scenario from Eternal Punishment Portable talks a little about this. The demons from P1 and P2 are apparently gone because of what happened
at the end of Eternal Punishment
In any case,
the Izanami from P2 and P4 are different beings, P4 Izanami is supposedly a giant Shadow while the P2 version seems to be a demon
cj_iwakura
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There are some similarities, in that demons and shadows are both here because of humans. Demons because of rituals(see: Takahisa Kandori Is An Idiot), shadows because of experimentation with the psyche.
Demons tend to have more individualized wills and goals, which makes them more dangerous. They can form factions and band together with legitimate strategies. (See: the Fairy clan in Nocturne)
I can't answer all this, but I always assumed that the demons in Persona 1 were the result of
Maki Sonomura's subconscious. Since most everythin else in P1 is.
That reminds me of something I wasn't sure about. Persona takes place in the same universe as Devil Summoner, right?
cj_iwakura
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Specifically Kandori's experiments
which drew from her psyche.
Yep. Tamaki from SMT If is a Devil Summoner(she's in 1 & 2), and the guy who runs the Kuzunoha Detective Agency is actually DS1's protagonist.
3 & 4 largely threw the SMT ties out the window, which is probably for the best. Not as fun to theorize about, though.
Reanimatoin
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If I'm not mistaken (and I probably am) isn't 'God' dead in the persona timeline? That's why all of these other deities are able to rise up.
I think I heard something like that once.
I think I heard something like that once.
cj_iwakura
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YHVH can't ever really die, at best they can prevent his involvement. Maybe if it's based on the II timeline where Aleph punched him in the face?
A Dead Diehard
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Supposedly, Persona takes place after SMT if in a world where
Raidou 50 succeeded.
cj_iwakura
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Right, though it goes further back to SMT If, where the Great Destruction never happened. You could say that was thanks to that spoiler, though.
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