agreed, the fact that s-links are almost never referenced in the main story unless it's at the most climactic moment of the game or something sucks
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Persona Community Thread |OT8| Coming Winter 2014
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agreed, the fact that s-links are almost never referenced in the main story unless it's at the most climactic moment of the game or something sucks
Spectrasonic
Member
Yeah, that's the great part about social links, you can learn more about a character that interests you and totally ignore ones that don't.
However, character development in social links seem kind of fake because their plots exist in a vacuum, that are never referenced anywhere else in the story. This leads to odd situations like being able to have 8 girlfriends at once in P4 and nobody cares. Hopefully P5 addresses this.
Edit: Actually, I forgot that social links can be discussed through two party members if you revisit a dungeon you've previously beaten. However it's totally optional and I doubt many people who played P4 even knew it existed.
http://persona4.wikidot.com/dungeontalk
Ludger Kresnik
Member
I just beat my high score on Best Friends in P4D but I dropped a few notes during fever time which kept my combo going but locked me out of a perfect clear.
I got a Brilliant. I had a King Crazy. The game downgraded my ranking.
I got a Brilliant. I had a King Crazy. The game downgraded my ranking.
This one's on you. Version 1.03 of P4D lets players override score results, so you could have disregarded that higher score if you wanted to.
Ludger Kresnik
Member
I didn't even notice that update was available aaaaaa time to download it and then play Bestest Buddies until I can erase that mark of shame.
I'm just really used to how Project Diva permanently locks in whatever your highest grade is, regardless of the score you get. I had no idea this would happen.
CrimsonFist
Member
1.03 also marks anything that you've scored King Crazy on with a crown, which stays even if you overwrite your score with a lower rank
Ludger Kresnik
Member
Cute, just noticed that as well. Either way, crisis averted. Piling on challenge items got the job done, no more Brilliant.
Edit: Mayonaka Stage loading screens happen in Free Dance now. I have mixed feelings about this.
A Dead Diehard
Member
No P3 characters = No French.
properpropaganda
Member
i never thought about it that way. it makes since in regards to the central theme of the game.
It's not that I didn't like doing the social links, it was that you don't know why characters are the way they are without them.
StarSketch
Banned
Ludger Kresnik
Member
I'm rather late to the whole betting thing, but it sounds like fun. Given that Atlus USA stated multiple times that P5 is coming in 2015 in NA, I'm confident NA will get P5 this year (of course it could still be delayed, but eh, I take that risk). So put me down on team #InHardinWeTrust.
Also, ranking time
P4:
Kanji
Yukiko
Naoto
Rise
Chie
Yosque
Teddie
P3:
Mitsuru
Aigis
Akihiko
Ken
Koromaru
Junpei
Yukari
Fuuka
Also, ranking time
P4:
Kanji
Yukiko
Naoto
Rise
Chie
Yosque
Teddie
P3:
Mitsuru
Aigis
Akihiko
Ken
Koromaru
Junpei
Yukari
Fuuka
A Dead Diehard
Member
No, but that was a good exchange.
Spectrasonic
Member
I found it here: http://pastebin.com/0mcZpFZm
Naoto talks about the Phantom thief in her dialogue... Naoto in P5 confirmed.
A Dead Diehard
Member
cj_iwakura
Member
For the record, I'm not betting either.
NCR Redslayer
NeoGAF's Vegeta
Naoto doing hero stuff and saying hi to the p5 gang would be nice.
Dragon1893
Member
First time I wont be able to get a Persona Music Live on day 1.
Just can't afford it right now, fucking hell.
Just can't afford it right now, fucking hell.
Modest Mauser
Member
Chie mentions deciding to become a police officer in the end of P4 as well. It would be cool to have them as a small cameo, even just in the background or with a group of police/detectives at some point. Doesn't have to be a big thing. Semi-related fanart:
BRSxIgnition
Member
One thing I've noticed after some time in the Persona fandom is that other than younger characters like Ken, they cut off women's heights at a certain point.
I'm not trying to start an issue where there may not be one, but it'd be nice to see a taller woman in the cast this time around. What if the Fox-Mask character turns out to be like that?
I'm not trying to start an issue where there may not be one, but it'd be nice to see a taller woman in the cast this time around. What if the Fox-Mask character turns out to be like that?
Idk, I'm starving for more info at this point.
A Dead Diehard
Member
Isn't it Naoto's deal that she comes from a long line of private investigators? Joining the 'real' police, I feel would be a detriment to her.
Well, remember they're a Japanese cast. The heights aren't all that unusual. Mitsuru's 166 cm (5'5") may not seem tall to me (My mom is 5'6", I'm 6'1"), but that's way above average height for a Japanese female. Mitsuru, and to a lesser degree Maya and Yukino, probably come off as a bit sexy due to how tall they are.
For reference: Average male and female heights in Japan are 172 (5'7") and 158 (5'2") respectively. Contrast this to the United States where the average is 179 (5'9") and 162 (5'4") respectively.
BRSxIgnition
Member
Thing is, they're not constrained to realistic "Average Japanese" measurements, and even if they were, they're just that - an average.
I'm not asking for a giant woman (SU reference), just a woman taller than 175 or so. Such women exist in real life, and since we have Anne in the cast (A presumed Foreigner), they shouldn't be limited to Japanese Averages.
I mean, Teddie is meant to be extremely feminine and youthful, and even he is the same height as the tallest woman. (I pinned him to be slightly shorter than Yukiko)
A Dead Diehard
Member
Do you think Kashiwagi, Eri, or Sayoko could fit that? I don't remember how tall they were compared to Yu's model, but you'd think at least the adult women would be taller.
BRSxIgnition
Member
I should have been clearer, I was talking about the main party members throughout all the Persona games. (There are some women who are taller, but even they'd be limited to around 170 max, if measured.)
Ludger Kresnik
Member
I think it'd be really cool if Naoto had kind of a minor antagonist role in P5, but that'd be stretching the cameo thing a bit.
BRSxIgnition
Member
I'm trying to resize an image to be my new avatar, but I could use some help resizing it so it doesn't become too small while still fitting the guidelines.
If anyone can help, please let me know in a private message.
If anyone can help, please let me know in a private message.
A Dead Diehard
Member
I figured that's what you meant, but the inclusion of Dojima and Nanako in that picture kind of skews who "counts" in that respect.
EDIT:
It's not even about their story being done. I just want each main entry to be self-contained.
If the P3 or P4 crew show up being grown-up badasses in the P5 crew's debut, they'll always be seen as inferior.
KenjiGlove
Banned
There's a 100 X
BRSxIgnition
Member
Even if one side is half the length of the other? (I was thinking about making it a rectangular PNG to make them both fit, but as you can see it still seems to downsize it further)
KenjiGlove
Banned
I actually don't really know that much of avatars lol, it would be best to check out the avatar thread, those guys probably know their stuff more than me.
It is unlikely anyone from Persona 3 or Persona 4 will directly show up in Persona 5, seeing as the story is seemingly set in 2016. For anyone not keeping track, that's four to five years after Persona 4, and almost seven- eight years after Persona 3. That being said, we'll probably get some references and shoutouts, just as we always have.
It would pretty much take a foreigner for that, and even then, 175 cm/5'7" or greater would be slightly unusual anywhere. If it does show up in a Persona game, expect it to be a source of problems for it's cast.
For what it's worth, Anne does seem to be pretty tall. The protagonist sits at 175 cm, and she doesn't seem to be significantly shorter. Probably in the 165 cm range?
It would pretty much take a foreigner for that, and even then, 175 cm/5'7" or greater would be slightly unusual anywhere. If it does show up in a Persona game, expect it to be a source of problems for it's cast.
For what it's worth, Anne does seem to be pretty tall. The protagonist sits at 175 cm, and she doesn't seem to be significantly shorter. Probably in the 165 cm range?
BRSxIgnition
Member
Could you please link me? I'm not too sure where to find that. (Would it be in Off Topic?)
I didn't mean exactly 175, but around there would be nice. Anne being 165cm would already put her on the high side for the women of the series, but it's a shame that the heights are so cleanly split between men and women in Persona.
All I'm trying to say is that It'd be nice to have some variation.
KenjiGlove
Banned
Thing is, in real life, heights are typically split between men and women too. You have someone like me spring up every so often who's an exception to that rule, but in real life women are generally on the shorter side. So it can't really be a shame or anything like that.
Given The Law of Conservation of Detail, any character that stands out height wise to such a big degree above Japan's average female height is going to have it virtually guaranteed as a plot point.
BRSxIgnition
Member
Thing is, in real life, heights are typically split between men and women too. You have someone like me spring up every so often who's an exception to that rule, but in real life women are generally on the shorter side. So it can't really be a shame or anything like that.
Given The Law of Conservation of Detail, any character that stands out height wise to such a big degree above Japan's average female height is going to have it virtually guaranteed as a plot point.
True enough, but I can't help but keep on wanting it. It's not something I'll get depressed over if it's not in the game, but it'd be cool.
CrimsonFist
Member
100x120 is the maximum, and anything not fitting those guidelines will be auto resized to fit them when you try to upload it.
BRSxIgnition
Member
Alright - thanks for the assistance. I'll keep it like this unless someone on the Avatar thread can make it larger or clearer.
P5 PV#01 Spoilers:
Back on topic though; am I the only one who would really love it if the
Velvet Twins were fun-loving and playful like this? I love their designs and this image just feels right for me, considering past attendants.
What do you guys think they'll be like?
What do you guys think they'll be like?
I have to be honest: I find that picture kind of creepy, mainly because the twins seem so young compared to past attendants.
That said, I see them being pretty deadpan, what with the whole angle of the velvet room being a prison. Like the previous ones, I'm sure their "weirder side" will come out as you do their social link.
That said, I see them being pretty deadpan, what with the whole angle of the velvet room being a prison. Like the previous ones, I'm sure their "weirder side" will come out as you do their social link.
One thing I've noticed after some time in the Persona fandom is that other than younger characters like Ken, they cut off women's heights at a certain point.
I'm not trying to start an issue where there may not be one, but it'd be nice to see a taller woman in the cast this time around. What if the Fox-Mask character turns out to be like that?
Idk, I'm starving for more info at this point.
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaait, I'm shorter than Teddie? All this time I thought he was a short guy but he's a few cm taller than me. Well that's humbling. Turns out I'm Maya's height. I really ought to play her game. Alas, Europe.
BRSxIgnition
Member
I think you may be looking at it the wrong way. It doesn't have that connotation to me at all. (It seems more parental and fun than anything "adult")
Aadrian1234
Banned
I'm still guilty for being one of the few who wants one of those 3-4 day vacation trips with some relation to P3/4. I'd go as far to say i want to see the casts for a day or two (I'm biased so anything related to P3 i will want), but i doubt it will happen. (P3/4 vacation trip spoilers)
Kinda like P3P does with Inaba, and P4G (IDK about regular P4) does with Gekkoukan/ Tatsumi Port Island