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Persona Community Thread |OT9| SPOILER TAGS OR DIE

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PK Gaming

Member
mollipen said:
Persona 5's
**** Shido *****
Palace is a gigantic piece of lazy garbage. Was Atlus jealous of FFXV's Chapter 13?
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Does it really have 0 redeeming qualities?
 
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Sophia

Member
mollipen said:
Persona 5's
**** Shido *****
Palace is a gigantic piece of lazy garbage. Was Atlus jealous of FFXV's Chapter 13?
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I've been trying to avoid gameplay spoilers of the later half, including this one. But everyone's complaints makes it sound like I'll like it. >_>
 
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mollipen

Member
PK Gaming said:
Does it really have 0 redeeming qualities?
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No, and I'd still rather play it than Chapter 13. But good god it's just so unashamed of presenting a neat idea and then completely running it into the ground.

I know it's probably not the case, but it does spark memories in me of that "we need to finish so just throw something together" feeing from FFXV's later hours.
 
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daevious

Member
Sophia said:
I've been trying to avoid gameplay spoilers of the later half, including this one. But everyone's complaints makes it sound like I'll like it. >_>
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Honestly, the same complaints could be levelled against
the penultimate dungeons in both Digial Devil Saga games. Miniboss rushes aren't exactly a new problem for SMT games.
 
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Sophia

Member
daevious said:
Honestly, the same complaints could be levelled against
the penultimate dungeons in both Digial Devil Saga games. Miniboss rushes aren't exactly a new problem for SMT games.
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Yeah, I was gonna say:
The approach to the final third of Persona 5 sounds very oldschool Atlus.
 
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Deleted member 518609

Unconfirmed Member
daevious said:
Honestly, the same complaints could be levelled against
the penultimate dungeons in both Digial Devil Saga games. Miniboss rushes aren't exactly a new problem for SMT games.
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That's not really the case with Shido's Palace. There are only 4 minibosses IIRC and they're relatively spread out. I'm guessing the mice puzzles and length are what don't site well with some people.
Personally I didn't have a problem with them in the slightest, I disliked Okumura's Palace a lot more. The storyline, music, visuals, and step up in difficulty made Shido's Palace one of my favorites.
 
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GSR

Member
The plot circumstances, graphical design, and music of that dungeon are fine. The gameplay gimmick is hot garbage, lol.

It's the only dungeon where I actively disliked the gameplay though. Most of the dungeons are solid in layout/gameplay and amazing in atmosphere/graphics.
 
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Merchandise

Member
GSR said:
The plot circumstances, graphical design, and music of that dungeon are fine. The gameplay gimmick is hot garbage, lol.

It's the only dungeon where I actively disliked the gameplay though. Most of the dungeons are solid in layout/gameplay and amazing in atmosphere/graphics.
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Are you mostly annoyed with the
mouse gimmick
? Because if so I agree that it was pretty annoying, but yeah.

Favorite dungeons were probably
Kamoshida Palace, Futaba Pyramid, Kaneshiro Bank
.
 
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GSR

Member
Merchandise said:
Are you mostly annoyed with the
mouse gimmick
? Because if so I agree that it was pretty annoying, but yeah.
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Yeah, that and the repetitive design for those segments. Overall,
backtracking and stealth
probably shouldn't be your key mechanics for your climactic JRPG dungeon. Really made it a slog to play through.
 
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Lunar15

Member
I haven't heard the whole soundtrack yet, but I feel I can confidently say that Blooming Villan and Keeper of Lust are the best dungeon boss theme and miniboss theme in the series.
 
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Merchandise

Member
GSR said:
Yeah, that and the repetitive design for those segments. Overall,
backtracking and stealth
probably shouldn't be your key mechanics for your climactic JRPG dungeon. Really made it a slog to play through.
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BACKTRACKING. Worst part of that dungeon was getting to the part where you have to jump up on the side of the ship and climb a bunch of levels, but it not letting you actually jump because you had to go find the one guy in the restaurant to like activate it. SLIUFJKBAD
 
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MSMrRound

Member
Whew, seems to be a lot of black bars popping up around here (and very dangerous ones at that too imo)

With the release date drawing closer, I know a lot of the import players (like myself) are eager to play through it again, but just a gentle reminder to watch those spoilers.

If you ever need to, the import spoiler thread to discuss certain gameplay mechanics/impressions etc might be a better place to discuss those without fear of accidentally spoiling other users (we DO tend to get a lot of first-timers popping up in the community thread afterall, especially with the release of a new mainline title)

Several of us etc would be glad to help out new players with tips and answers if it's needed once the English build OT/spoiler thread gets created when the game is out

Cheers.
 
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Gestahl

Member
Merchandise said:
BACKTRACKING. Worst part of that dungeon was getting to the part where you have to jump up on the side of the ship and climb a bunch of levels, but it not letting you actually jump because you had to go find the one guy in the restaurant to like activate it. SLIUFJKBAD
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The game explicitly tells you where to go there.
 
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Lunar15

Member
We'll definitely get an OT2 for this game, so if you're unhappy with Lupin the 5th, better start planning your best ideas now.
 
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BRSxIgnition

Member
YoRHa No.2 Type B said:
Meh.. I'm a bit dissapointed with the title to be honest.
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It was voted on a while back in a poll that received over 200 votes.

barybll said:
What a tedious OT
No smart remark or catchphrase
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Tedious? You should look into the triple entendre.

YoRHa No.2 Type B said:
How about

Persona 5 |OT| Ann[e] got robbed first
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Voting has concluded.

Lunar15 said:
We'll definitely get an OT2 for this game, so if you're unhappy with Lupin the 5th, better start planning your best ideas now.
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The consensus was that OT2 would be "Among Thieves."
 
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Lunar15

Member
I'd probably wait to fully determine the OT2 name, just because a lot of new jokes and associations with the game tend to pop up once people have started playing the game.

Among thieves isn't bad though.
 
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BRSxIgnition

Member
Lunar15 said:
I'd probably wait to fully determine the OT2 name, just because a lot of new jokes and associations with the game tend to pop up once people have started playing the game.

Among thieves isn't bad though.
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True enough. "Among Thieves" is definitely more provisional.

Just hoping you all enjoy the OT, honestly.
 
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Sophia

Member
If you want to make an image smaller instead of taking up an entire 1080p screen, add quote tags around the img tag. That'll shrink it unless people click on it.
 
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Dantis

Member
Hey look, people are playing the game and agreeing with one if my complaints.

Who'd have seen that coming.

Told you that dungeon was kinda trash.

Those are the kind of things I think it might get marked down on. Still a great game though.
 
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brian!

Member
Sup persona fanz
2 quick questions since im a bit out of the loop, on amazon if i preorder the standard edition, that comes with a controller skin? And is it safe to buy the steelbook edition, i was reading that there was some issue but i havent really delved into it
 
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klabautermann

Member
brian! said:
Sup persona fanz
2 quick questions since im a bit out of the loop, on amazon if i preorder the standard edition, that comes with a controller skin? And is it safe to buy the steelbook edition, i was reading that there was some issue but i havent really delved into it
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Standard Edition comes with the skin, yeah. Preordering should be fine, seems like it was an issue on Amazon's side. If anything happens, just reach out to them. I don't think there was a real problem with the product itself.

40detectives said:
Awesome art by Soejima for the 20th Persona anniversary.

I've just discovered it, but I think it's a good time to remember it.
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yeah, it's been around for a couple months but it's really phenomenal. LOVE seeing Soejima draw Kaneko characters.
 
Mediking

Mediking

Member
40detectives said:
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Awesome art by Soejima for the 20th Persona anniversary.

I've just discovered it, but I think it's a good time to remember it.
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The Persona 1 MC aka the only guy who isn't wearing black is really cool. Hard to find actual fanart of him. Actually gonna play P1 this weekend...
 
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GSR

Member
Dantis said:
Hey look, people are playing the game and agreeing with one if my complaints.

Who'd have seen that coming.

Told you that dungeon was kinda trash.

Those are the kind of things I think it might get marked down on. Still a great game though.
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Dantis pls. People didn't give you grief in the import thread because you didn't like some of the dungeons, they gave you grief because you tried to critique the writing of a game you played in a language you don't speak, lol.

Nobody's saying P5 is perfect.
 
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Setsu00

Member
GSR said:
Dantis pls. People didn't give you grief in the import thread because you didn't like some of the dungeons, they gave you grief because you tried to critique the writing of a game you played in a language you don't speak, lol.

Nobody's saying P5 is perfect.
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But didn't he also say that his complaints are not limited to the writing?
 
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GSR

Member
Setsu00 said:
But didn't he also say that his complaints are not limited to the writing?
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They're not, I just got a laugh out of "who could've seen this coming." P5 has issues that have been discussed for months in the import thread, this isn't news, and those aren't the reasons folks have had issues with some of Dantis' impressions.

Sorry for the snark, it just rubbed me the wrong way.
 
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Gestahl

Member
Dantis said:
Hey look, people are playing the game and agreeing with one if my complaints.

Who'd have seen that coming.

Told you that dungeon was kinda trash.

Those are the kind of things I think it might get marked down on. Still a great game though.
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The greatest proof possible that the dungeon is Good
 
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Dead End Irony

Member
It's interesting to read that people think Persona 5 will get marked down for a bad dungeon design when the highly praised Persona 4's worst aspect was ALL of its dungeons. I consider Persona 4 to be one of my all time favorite gaming experiences, but all of those dungeons were a complete chore. The writing, charm, music, and atmosphere all made up for it. The good heavily outweighed the bad. I'm imagining it'll be the same for Persona 5, no?
 
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ASilentProtagonist

Member
Dead End Irony said:
It's interesting to read that people think Persona 5 will get marked down for a bad dungeon design when the highly praised Persona 4's worst aspect was ALL of its dungeons. I consider Persona 4 to be one of my all time favorite gaming experiences, but all of those dungeons were a complete chore. The writing, charm, music, and atmosphere all made up for it. The good heavily outweighed the bad. I'm imagining it'll be the same for Persona 5, no?
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Shouldn't be the case here, so far.. The Palaces in Persona 5 have been amazing. You're in for a real treat.
 
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MSMrRound

Member
The dungeon in question that Dantis was mentioning about, I actually quite like it a lot in terms of design (aka the overall look of the dungeon) and soundtrack. It is just that
it went on for a bit longer than what I would have preferred, until it felt like a bit of a slog to finish it
 
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Gestahl

Member
MSMrRound said:
The dungeon in question that Dantis was mentioning about, I actually quite like it a lot in terms of design (aka the overall look of the dungeon) and soundtrack. It is just that
it went on for a bit longer than what I would have preferred, until it felt like a bit of a slog to finish it
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I paced myself so I never had that issue. The gimmick repeats one or two more times than it should but that's all I felt from it.

Now the beginning of dungeon
5
and the ends of dungeons
4 and 5
, that shit is worth complaining about.
Massive backtracking, time limits, enemies spawning up your ass in coverless environments
, just an unpleasant affair all around.
 
Mediking

Mediking

Member
Dantis and I both agree that Marie is trash.

But will we both agree that this certain dungeon you guys keep talking about is trash?

Find out next time on Dragonball Z!
 
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