-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
Persona Community Thread: The Butterfly Effect
- Thread starter Dantis
- Start date
- Status
I agree.
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
Junior Member
Eikichi>Junpei > Yosuke
But Lisa>Yukari >Yukiko
Maya > everyone tho real talk
But Lisa>Yukari >Yukiko
Maya > everyone tho real talk
Nah.
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
Junior Member
Yup
Supermanisdead
Member
Akihiko > Mitsuru > Kanji > everyone tho real talk
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
Junior Member
Nope
I can understand why people enjoy that dynamic, but I do think it's a little counterintuitive to S. Links as a system. I enjoy side characters when done well, but in any RPG which characters do you want to interact with more than your party? Probably few to none. They basically didn't get S. Links right their first time implementing them.
You don't, which is how the many games with good stories get by, but the very point of S. Links is character development. If you're gonna develop your characters outside of that completely than you may as well not waste time implementing it and just tell a straightforward story with a standard stat system.
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
Junior Member
I agree
Yes.
SloaneRisette
Member
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
Junior Member
Yukiko is like.... the most boring character in the series.
The realest of real talk.
I think we just ranked up, Trigger.
Loooooooooooooooooool.
TER-RUTH!
Disagree, she's not even the best woman in P2.
You don't need s.linking for character development, but it's a pretty brilliant way of weaving narrative into actual gameplay mechanics. It's adapting something for the videogame medium rather than just having everything play out in a cutscene, pretty brilliant IMO.
Junpei would be a lot better is he wasn't voice by Vic Mignogna.
Junpei would be a lot better is he wasn't voice by Vic Mignogna.
SloaneRisette
Member
TAKE THAT BACK
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
Junior Member
Indeed
I don't understand how anyone could argue with this
unless they haven't played the game
You're wrong. Also, who is? Saeko? Knowing that Persona 2's Tamaki was the protagonist in SMT: if... makes me want to play that.
Oh wait, Ulala's an acceptable answer. She also seems like a better boxer than Akihiko.
He has a better arc [mainly because of Chidori], but it still pisses me off that he has like two months in P3 after the Lover's mission where he's pissed off at MC and then gets over it himself for no apparent reason [relative to MC]. Wasted opportunity.
Junpei's voice is dead on, personally. Only Fuuka and... the Chairman...? really stood out to me in P3 as being that bad.
Mitsuuru's VA though, good god. Awoooooooo.
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
Junior Member
No need to rank mine when you have already done it for me lol. Wiping all out doesn't get enough credit imo.
SloaneRisette
Member
No, that's wrong.
brianmcdoogle
Member
For me, I like everyone in Persona 4, minus Naoto, but dislike in Persona 3 Ken, and all the upperclassmen; Mitsuru, Akihiko, Akihiko's friend... Really, what I like about Persona 4 is they captured the spirit between the main character, Yukari, and Junpei, and extended it to the entire cast, which is a huge accomplishment. I guess I like the idea of the schism between the upper and lower grades in P3, but it just ended up leading to boring or mean characters for me.
I like Lisa, Ulala, Yukino, and Elly all more than Maya. She's too energetic for my taste. Also, she spends half of the time as a silent protagonist.
I can kind of agree with that assessment, though I quite like Naoto too. But I do think the MC, Yukari and Junpei was a great trio which scaled up well to the whole Investigation Team in P4.
buddha0991
Member
Tatsuya Suou, Lisa Silverman, Eikichi Mishina, Jun Kurosu/Kashihara, Yukino Mayuzumi, Maya Amano, Katsuya Suou, Ulala Serizawa, and Baofu laugh at all you people and don't tip very high after dining at your restaurants!
SloaneRisette
Member
You're a good man, Trigger.
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
Junior Member
Jun sucks.
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
Junior Member
How?
Only 7 hours into EP, so that might change, but after getting over the craziness of
Jun being the Joker and joining your party
Masquerade
And Chie > *
Wow this thread grew in the hour and a half since my post.
Yeah it does have a lot of similarities to Evangelion, including sharing cast members, and I think the overall story to Persona 3 is fantastic. Easily above Persona 4 in this regard. However it's individual plot events are a bit weak as a result of it's development. In terms of plot events, Persona 4 wins out.
This is fact.
Junpei's character development is second only to Aigis in terms of amazement. Watching him be the most realistic member of the party in The Answer is seriously awesome.
Yeah it does have a lot of similarities to Evangelion, including sharing cast members, and I think the overall story to Persona 3 is fantastic. Easily above Persona 4 in this regard. However it's individual plot events are a bit weak as a result of it's development. In terms of plot events, Persona 4 wins out.
This is fact.
Junpei's character development is second only to Aigis in terms of amazement. Watching him be the most realistic member of the party in The Answer is seriously awesome.
This is is exactly. I like Vic Mignogna a lot though. Maybe a bit miscast as Jun though.
Wait, there are EVA voice actors in P3? Who?
Everyone who likes P3,should watch Evangelion and vice versa.
For what it's worth, before I even knew anything about this series, my first experience was with Persona 3, and I just flat out stopped after the first full moon with Aigis I think. Partially because I found out about Fes coming soon, but even then it was a struggle to pick it up. That game is paced so damn weird. Even Tartarus is messy the last few months, for no discernible reason. While I'm happy that the character's individual stories were told via the narrative(for the most part), they never really felt much like friends to me, just a group coming together.
Then persona 4 happened and fixed all the problems I had with 3. A murder mystery that unravels over time was a better vehicle for a year round cycle probably, though maybe 3 just could have been paced better(lot of "fight 2 shadows this full moon!" sequences), with a really front and back loaded story.
The only thing I'm not a fan of with arena(if we want to look at this as any kind of canon) is that because the character growth of 3 was built into the story, there's no doubt they have their newest personas. Since 4 was a choice, they went with no one having one, which is odd, and going to be odder if they do more with the cast moving forward. Then again, why the whole Labrys incident couldn't have been apart of Golden instead of Marie I'll never know...
And Yosuke > Junpei. Hated that jealous streak he had, though I guess it made for some growth.
Then persona 4 happened and fixed all the problems I had with 3. A murder mystery that unravels over time was a better vehicle for a year round cycle probably, though maybe 3 just could have been paced better(lot of "fight 2 shadows this full moon!" sequences), with a really front and back loaded story.
The only thing I'm not a fan of with arena(if we want to look at this as any kind of canon) is that because the character growth of 3 was built into the story, there's no doubt they have their newest personas. Since 4 was a choice, they went with no one having one, which is odd, and going to be odder if they do more with the cast moving forward. Then again, why the whole Labrys incident couldn't have been apart of Golden instead of Marie I'll never know...
And Yosuke > Junpei. Hated that jealous streak he had, though I guess it made for some growth.
In Japanese. Off the top of my head.
Protagonist is Kaworu (Akira Ishida)
Aigis is Mari (Maaya Sakamoto)
Ken is Shinji (Megumi Ogata)
Chidori/Elizabeth is a character in Rebuild 3.0 (Miyuki Sawashiro)
That streak doesn't even last that long. It's a full moon or two at best. Less if you're playing the female protagonist because Mitsuru gets absolutely vicious with Junpei about it.
buddha0991
Member
The only reason they went with the original Personae in Arena was simply because the original Personae are apparently more iconic. Odd, huh?
That sounds perfect. Maaya's voice is great. I still haven't seen any of Rebuild :/
Well, I hated most of the designs of the third tier ones, so no argument from me about that. I do like most of the first tiers better than the second, so maybe there is some merit to that.
And yeah, loved Junpei more in 3 portable because of that. Not many added lines, but the lines that were changed/added were great going through it again. Still crack up when Aigis asks where she can leave the live ammo if you say it's ok to share a room with her.
And yeah, loved Junpei more in 3 portable because of that. Not many added lines, but the lines that were changed/added were great going through it again. Still crack up when Aigis asks where she can leave the live ammo if you say it's ok to share a room with her.
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
Junior Member
What is Kaneko doing? Does he still work for atlus?
- Status