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Persona Community Thread: The Butterfly Effect
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I played the demo when it first came out and loved it. Finally playing the whole thing now, I'm better at it, but somehow a little less enthused by it. I also just finished a Halo, so I think I'm a little spoiled to Bungie's AI.
I think it's great though, so far. Does what Max Payne 3 tried to do and much better. And your contact is voiced by (and kinda looks like) Kari Wahlgren, so bonus points for that.
Also, smoke breaks. And good achievement names.
I think it's great though, so far. Does what Max Payne 3 tried to do and much better. And your contact is voiced by (and kinda looks like) Kari Wahlgren, so bonus points for that.
Also, smoke breaks. And good achievement names.
As all Platinum games are.
But i'd be lying if I said it wasn't some of (if not the) best third-person shooting this generation. That's undeniable if you're invested in the genre.
I can deny it. Vanquish was tedious and surprisingly boring for a game I thought would very much appeal to me. Either the gameplay systems didn't click for me or I just didn't like them.
Forgive these heretic, oh Father Kamiya... For they do not know the shit they eat.
Suit yourself. I'm speaking purely about the mechanics of shooting though, for what it's worth. The aiming, weapon feedback, and mobility are all top tier.
Now whether or not the game uses that stuff well I can't really comment on since I'm like 40 mins in. I felt the same way about Max Payne 3. The feel of combat was amazing, they just couldn't properly design levels/encounters around it.
I agree that it applies to Platinum games.
I played through it after I played Binary Domain, and I felt like Binary Domain's shooting was miles better, personally. Much better story and graphics too.
BD is passable. About as good as Mass Effect 2/3.
cj_iwakura
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I think Nagoshi's team are pretty much the most talented devs in Japan right now, graphically speaking. I love Y4's facial animations.
Drakengard is nuts so far, but a lot more fun than Nier.
(Consider that I did like Nier's gameplay too)
Also, Platinum: Anarchy Reigns was great.
If anything these people define the bottom of the barrel as far as AAA development in Japan.
I think PG does things that are (sort of) original, so often people let them get away with OK-ish design. They're not gods. The fact "PG should make (insert game)!" Is a thing is ridiculous.
Personally, I'm in Vanquish because it's a Mikami game.
Get the fuck out of town.
Nagoshi's team was amazing until the terrible idol mode in Y5.
I never played Drakengard because I heard the gameplay was janky. I am interested in the apparent twisted-ness of the story though.
That shooting was nothing to write home about, son. "JP dev impersonating Epic Games" ostensibly.
buddha0991
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But Dantis that is how we feel about quite a few of your opinion
For once, I actually agree with his opinion of Binary Domain.
cj_iwakura
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Of course, since you've played Yakuza 5, please tell me all about it.
...Have you actually played much of it? Because it plays nothing like Gears at all (Relatively, obviously).
Man, how surprised would you be if I had?
And I don't need to play the idol section to know that I wouldn't like it. I wouldn't be able to make it through a single song, haha!
Man, how surprised would you be if I had?
Dantis if you had actually given something a chance and played it before forming an opinion, I think everyone would be impressed.
thequickandthedead
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Dantis if you had actually given something a chance and played it before forming an opinion, I think everyone would be impressed.
I give things a chance a lot of the time. Some things are beyond my appreciation though.
I'll give it a look, cheers.
I give things a chance a lot of the time. Some things are beyond my appreciation though.
Uh-huh. Suuuure you do.
I give things a chance a lot of the time. Some things are beyond my appreciation though.
Like Persona 4 Aren...oh.
Or like-minded cynics.
But I like other games. Platinum is just lackluster.
Dantis can't hide his dere-dere for P4A. We know better now after playing him. ;p
No you're not. I'm probably the biggest Platinum Games fangirl around.
Yeah, I kinda find the Platinum (especially Kamiya) ballwashing to be out of hand.
If only you could sense my glare right now!
I delivered mine textually in IRC. >:|
Drakengars gameplay is bad. Like worse-than-Hitler bad. Like being kicked in the nuts and getting throw of a cliff bad.
The story relies on the "stock factor"(for a jrpg), but once you get past that it, it's poor, with awful characters and nonsensical world-building.
The LP really does a good job at convening it.
Teddie as Phoenix Wright is the worst.
lol
confession time: I really liked that scene in the anime. Its cheesy on its own, but its placed at the perfect moment in the anime (during the Mitsuo episode)
As an aside, as i'm playing through P2, i've really come to appreciate some of its mechanics. The contact option is awesome, and fusion spells are much, much better.
PS: P2 character facial art >>> P3 & P4. They're more varied and are generally better imo.
Gorgeous art ♥
Are you fucking insane
I am of the same opinion (though I played Binary Domain after I played through Vanquish).
Ye though I walk through the valley of the shadow of hate; I will fear no haters...
cj_iwakura
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I think we established that aeons ago...
I do have faith in Nagoshi, though. If I ever get to the UK, I'm super-gluing a Vita with Project Diva F playing on repeat to Dantis' palms.
For what it's worth, he's partially right about that. Binary Domain's shooting is extremely good.
And I say this as one of the biggest Platinum fans around.
I wont' deny BD has far more interesting characters and story than Vanquish though, but gameplay? Yessh, the most interesting thing is that you can shoot limbs off in a somewhat tactical way. Can't rocket-knee that, whiff a melee attack, slow-mo cancel and shoot your own grenade mid-air.
For what it was I enjoyed BD's combat, but it was pretty much roadie run from cover to cover and shoot some dudes. Man, that giant robot spider boss... could've been something real special.
For what it was I enjoyed BD's combat, but it was pretty much roadie run from cover to cover and shoot some dudes. Man, that giant robot spider boss... could've been something real special.
cj_iwakura
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Better than Dead Souls? In a word, I'd call that game's shooting flawed. Passable, but it could've been worlds better. And not using melee in a Yakuza game - madness.
The shooting in Dead Souls is pretty average. However a significant factor in this is because the enemies outside of bosses become dull after ahwile.
cj_iwakura
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Yep. The core plot and sidestories made up for it, which was why I saw it through.
I figured they'd back out on Zombie Majima, but the resolution was hilarious.
cj_iwakura
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Consider that Dead Souls US was improved on.
The horror.
buddha0991
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