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Persona Community Thread: The Butterfly Effect
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Why mention Dantis? You're like the co-captain of the 2 Anime Crew.
SatelliteOfLove
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BOOM!
SloaneRisette
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What's an Annie May
Is she going to be a new S. Link for Persona 5
Is she going to be a new S. Link for Persona 5
Marmaladefire
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But Persona fans are the hipsters of the JRPG crowd.
I played Persona before it was cool
You're thinking of mainline SMT fans.
TurnipFritters
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uh no i usually lodge specific complaints about gross pandering, not blanket statements about how i will not eat the green eggs and ham (the green eggs and ham are a metaphor for anime)
ScraftyDevil
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Nooooooooo don't go
We need your presence to balance out our insanity. The thread might reach critical mass without you.
Eh, don't worry. We argue the same issues ad nauseum and give impressions of the things we're actually playing
Next week this will be the Persona Community Thread: Stealth E3 discussion/Last Of Us mini-OT
buddha0991
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Persona is a thing.
Viola of the Abyss
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No leaks yet... Good thing I haven't waited until later
*shrug*
Talk about other things. I think most of my posts in here aren't about Persona at this point (Excluding somehow convincing myself that P5 would be at E3. Whoops!).
No leaks yet... Good thing I haven't waited until later
It's over, man. I've lost.
cj_iwakura
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Hey, most of us play other RPGs too. It just makes the bar all the higher for them.
So apparently The Last Of Us is ok.
It's almost as bad as Bioshock Infinite, and will surely never touch any indie title released ever. It's a damaging game that misses every mark with regards EVERY social issue ever, and anyone that likes it should be ashamed. This medium is dead, fuck videogames.
-Every blog a week after the game comes out
It's almost as bad as Bioshock Infinite, and will surely never touch any indie title released ever. It's a damaging game that misses every mark with regards EVERY social issue ever, and anyone that likes it should be ashamed. This medium is dead, fuck videogames.
-Every blog a week after the game comes out
SloaneRisette
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Hey when/where did you get my diary.
It's actually not that bad, other than that quote in particular. People are saying it's an achievement. I think that's pretty grounded.
I'm with Dantis. I can't believe it's this close and E3 is inbetween. These are some exciting times we live in.
In regards to Polygon, I just felt that the words in the text didn't match the score, and that always annoys me (Or rather, relative to games that I have an interest in).
In terms of being happy that it's getting all these tens... who doesn't want to see a developer that they love releasing what seems like an incredibly interesting product and getting high praise for it?
Most exciting E3 in years, too. Last year sucked.
In terms of being happy that it's getting all these tens... who doesn't want to see a developer that they love releasing what seems like an incredibly interesting product and getting high praise for it?
Most exciting E3 in years, too. Last year sucked.
buddha0991
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I hope we somehow get another classic like Konami '10
SloaneRisette
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This year is going to be like a Cold War of an E3.
Agreed. This is the most hyped I have been for E3 in a very, very long time.
I resisted re-playing Persona 3: Portable for the longest time, but now my itch to play the game again is too great. I used one of my end-game saves with max levels/etc and restarted a new game +. I'm going to try to get all max social links this time around. My last run through, I messed up and got very close.
I think I must of spent over 300 hours into this game (including P3:FES). Hearing Laura Bailey & Michelle Ruff in same game is awesome. (those 2 are among my favorite voice actors)
I think I must of spent over 300 hours into this game (including P3:FES). Hearing Laura Bailey & Michelle Ruff in same game is awesome. (those 2 are among my favorite voice actors)
Young Magus
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Last year's E3 was a huge bummer, only good to come out of it was all those gif.
In regards to the reviews for the Last of Us, I'll wait till I hear hands-on impressions from GAF. With any AAA game, seems like most outlets hype it up like there's no tomorrow, so I'll wait till the hype dies down to check on opinions.
In regards to the reviews for the Last of Us, I'll wait till I hear hands-on impressions from GAF. With any AAA game, seems like most outlets hype it up like there's no tomorrow, so I'll wait till the hype dies down to check on opinions.
I thought last year was cool! E3 excites me in varying degrees. I'm very unlikely to walk away disappointed ^_^
This perspective is so funny to me. It's like whenever an exceptionally well-reviewed game is released, people forget the weeks upon weeks of stuff that did not in fact get the same praise.
We just came off middling/mixed reviews for FUSE and Remember Me. So that's two examples right there inside two weeks that the press did not love. The former from a very well-liked team.
The press does not eat up everything AAA. It's a massive misnomer.
I just get skeptical when I see so many reviewers heralding a game for being this "cinematic masterpiece".
I have no doubt it will be a solid game. I think naughty dog has earned that trust. But I don't buy into the massive hype surrounding reviews of games that try to position their PR around the fact that it's more than a game, it's an "event". It's become this weird trend where games that purport to have an emotional focus outside of guns and explosions get a "score bump" from *trying* to do that. Which is neat, but I have to see for myself if the game actually explores any meaningful themes or just sprinkles some "topical issues" in there for good measure. If games want be movies, I'll judge them against movies, which have a much larger history of stories that really have pushed the line in terms of emotional storytelling. I judge game stories far more on how the gameplay reinforces the story's themes than how good the "story" is within the cutscenes. (this is a huge reason I love Persona, keeping things on topic)
Have I agreed with hyperbole before? Yeah, I totally have. Some games do deserve all the praise they get. Infinite and GTA IV just killed my ability to take part in that initial hype, regardless of what game it is. Even games that I, myself, are intensely hyped for.
tl;dr: I'm happy for Naughty Dog and expect the game to be solid, but I'm so just so jaded about game reviews right now.
I have no doubt it will be a solid game. I think naughty dog has earned that trust. But I don't buy into the massive hype surrounding reviews of games that try to position their PR around the fact that it's more than a game, it's an "event". It's become this weird trend where games that purport to have an emotional focus outside of guns and explosions get a "score bump" from *trying* to do that. Which is neat, but I have to see for myself if the game actually explores any meaningful themes or just sprinkles some "topical issues" in there for good measure. If games want be movies, I'll judge them against movies, which have a much larger history of stories that really have pushed the line in terms of emotional storytelling. I judge game stories far more on how the gameplay reinforces the story's themes than how good the "story" is within the cutscenes. (this is a huge reason I love Persona, keeping things on topic)
Have I agreed with hyperbole before? Yeah, I totally have. Some games do deserve all the praise they get. Infinite and GTA IV just killed my ability to take part in that initial hype, regardless of what game it is. Even games that I, myself, are intensely hyped for.
tl;dr: I'm happy for Naughty Dog and expect the game to be solid, but I'm so just so jaded about game reviews right now.
ScraftyDevil
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Guys, my wallet is crying.
The Last of Us in June, SMTIV and Project X Zone in July, Saints Row IV and M&L Dream Team in August, Kingdom Hearts HD and Wonderful 101 in September, Pokémon and likely Phoenix Wright in October, and then PS4 in the following months...
Why can't I buy all these games?
The Last of Us in June, SMTIV and Project X Zone in July, Saints Row IV and M&L Dream Team in August, Kingdom Hearts HD and Wonderful 101 in September, Pokémon and likely Phoenix Wright in October, and then PS4 in the following months...
Why can't I buy all these games?
SloaneRisette
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Scrafty what are you doing
Young Magus
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Go home Scrafty, your drunk.
Just curious: Have you read this in an actual review of TLOU? Or is this perspective you bring to the table based on the reception of Uncharted or other AAA games? Because I have yet to see someone call TLOU a cinematic masterpiece. It's being described in broader terms, because it isn't the sort of roller coaster ride like Uncharted. There's a lot more going on there than just spectacle.
ScraftyDevil
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My clipboard freaked out at posted a different link. Eh, it wasn't that funny anyways.
Love you too.
I saw a "citizen kane" thrown out there. Not that this is an indication of all reviews, no. Nor does it mean that these reviewers are "wrong". I'm just saying that when this stuff happens, I personally step back from the hyperbole and take it to mean "ok the game is playable and probably worth your time", and reserve full judgement till I play it myself. It was just a long way of saying that I don't like getting wrapped up in the hype anymore.
In general, I read reviews after I play a game, to read it from the perspective of "oh, what did this guy get out of the game, and what angle did he see that I didn't". I also do this for movies.
ScraftyDevil
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It's okay that you don't like the series. I respect that.
I'm still buying Kingdom Hearts HD though.
Ah, alright, I gotcha.
Yeah, the Citizen Kane comment is silly. In general I think people are enthusiastic, but everyone seems grounded.
My expectations are still tempered myself, but it's cool to see some if the very vocal skeptics - the guys that don't dabble in hyperbole - being high on the game.
How dare you respect Keiichi? You're out of the club.
buddha0991
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This may be the first pokemon I get since Gold way back when on gameboy pocket.
Yeah, I've seen favorable, grounded opinions from people I tend to align with, and that's sick. I definitely think the game's gonna be solid. I'm just saying I only buy it all up to a point.... and from there I keep my expectations in check.
Eh, maybe. I think most people that pull our the "Citizen Kane" card often have no idea why that movie was such a bit deal, or haven't see it to begin with. It always reeks of hyperbole.
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