She is! She was one of the first "additional voices" I heard.
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Persona Community Thread: The Butterfly Effect
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She is! She was one of the first "additional voices" I heard.
ScraftyDevil
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brb buying TLoU
ScraftyDevil
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I'm going to buy it next week once I get my paycheck. I'm broke as a china plate at a bull convention right now, so unless I want to starve for a few days it'll have to wait -_-
You don't need Move to take advantage of it. PS4 supports gesture controls, so ostensibly it's Kinect, but probably less capable.
It tracks multiple people, too. During the PS4 unveil the example Mark Cerny gave was during a spit-screen game you could move where you're sitting and the screens will swap to follow you. Daylight will take photos of your reactions as you play.
So yeah, you don't need Move for it.
None of us really use SOS that much, if at all.
Travis Willingham, too. Liam O'Brien is in there a lot and he directed that stuff.
buddha0991
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I used it quite often when it came out, but now the amount of players has decreased to the point where it just takes too much time.
999 Rescues
You all should answer his question then! XD
Well, I kinda did. A big problem with why it's so shitty is because it takes forever, so less and less people continue using it.
ScraftyDevil
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Get in there, PK. You need to inquire about his role as Brotagonist!
PK is a great choice! Let's do it PK.
Hahahaha god I can't get enough on Dantis with that icon.
I too have been playing The Last Of US. It's a great game, though I'm not aboard the "this is the greatest piece of interactive art every conceived by a human. Literally Citizen Kane ported to the PS3" It's got some pretty significant flaws that I think some people are overlooking. (Such as the partner AI being trash, and the enemy AI almost completely ignoring them during stealth sections)
Something something Persona.
Hahahaha god I can't get enough on Dantis with that icon.
I too have been playing The Last Of US. It's a great game, though I'm not aboard the "this is the greatest piece of interactive art every conceived by a human. Literally Citizen Kane ported to the PS3" It's got some pretty significant flaws that I think some people are overlooking. (Such as the partner AI being trash, and the enemy AI almost completely ignoring them during stealth sections)
Something something Persona.
Young Magus
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Cool thing happened recently, I had my friend listen to the Digital Devil Saga OST, doesn't really listen to VGM that much. He said that the soundtrack was top notch and production was amazing. Goes to show the power of MegaTen OST's
Something Something Social Links.
Something Something Social Links.
How do you know Persona 5 will be good? Maybe Labrys will be in it.
I'm guessing this is the fourth game you've played after Persona 3, Persona 4, and Alan Wake
It's possible. 3 had a robot girl. Arena exists solely to add a robot girl to 4's cast. 5? Nothing but robot girls. And Dantis. Think Tenchi Muyo.
Marmaladefire
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Thanks. I didn't really pay much attention to the eye stuff at the unveiling, and they just forgot it existed at E3 (probably for the better)
Yeah like death having no consequence during gameplay, and all the tension and horror is sucked out because of it making most enemy encounters boring. *SNAP*
Something something Atlus something Persona.
Grinding through a few floors and losing 30-45m of work is wayyyyyy more punishing than losing 1-2m since your last checkpoint.
This will not happen in Persona 5.
It didn't happen in Persona 4 Golden, so it sure as heck isn't happening in Persona 5.
Wanna bet your av on it?
Too soon.
In the past Persona games(Golden aside), if you died you lost all progress up until your last save point. While that may seem like pretty standard, it's practically punishing compared to modern game design. Far too many "AAA" games have no real penalty for dying.
The Last Of Us autosaves after like.. Every enemy encounter. Thus breaking the tension completely. I'm playing on Hard and rarely die now, and only initially I did during the first real infected encounter. Once I learned it's easy to just melee most of them to death (Even Clickers can be taken out easy with melee weapons) it became really easy.
No idea if survival mode entails, but I hope it fixes this. Game would've been way better with an old school savepoint system like classic Resident Evil games.
Salt in the wound.
The Last Of Us autosaves after like.. Every enemy encounter. Thus breaking the tension completely. I'm playing on Hard and rarely die now, and only initially I did during the first real infected encounter. Once I learned it's easy to just melee most of them to death (Even Clickers can be taken out easy with melee weapons) it became really easy.
No idea if survival mode entails, but I hope it fixes this. Game would've been way better with an old school savepoint system like classic Resident Evil games.
Salt in the wound.
Sounds like The Last of Us alright. Really wish there was a mode that didn't save every five seconds.
Survivor mode is to TLOU what 1999 mode was to Bioshock Infinite. It doesn't fix the games problems at all. :\
Sounds like every AAA game in in the last decade.
Marmaladefire
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I think they'd keep their av. Persona is a fairly well known series among gamers now, and is a top tier game for the JRPG crowd. Death will be less punishing, because it's not a super niche dungeon crawler anymore, just like P4 is a lot easier than P3.
What's with P4 not being on PSN anyway? My disc got all messed up and I want to replay it after I finish replaying P3, but I don't want to pay $20 (or pull out the PS2) haha
The Last of Us is one of those games that pointed out to me why making death so cheap is a bad idea. It's actually better to die then win the encounter spending all your supplies. That is messed up.
It's a shame too, it's a fundamentally good game. But all the tension in the game quickly gets replaced with frustration when you realize you can't possibly fail.
Hahah it almost becomes comical, like I'm trying to save my game for the night and I have to wait for a flippin' autosave first!
It depends what you mean by problems, believe me, this game has a lot of them. People calling it a masterpiece are being silly.
What does survivor mode actually do though? Removes autosaving?
I'd say more the last 5 years then decade, but I agree. It's more troubling here though cause some people are acting like The Last Of Us is some sort of great return of survival horror. There's no survival cause death has no consequence.
Removes listens mode and makes all the supplies really tight. As far as I know (I couldn't be bothered to finish the game before the end of the rental) it doesn't do anything to the autosave.
PK is a great choice! Let's do it PK.
Hahahaha god I can't get enough on Dantis with that icon.
I too have been playing The Last Of US. It's a great game, though I'm not aboard the "this is the greatest piece of interactive art every conceived by a human. Literally Citizen Kane ported to the PS3" It's got some pretty significant flaws that I think some people are overlooking. (Such as the partner AI being trash, and the enemy AI almost completely ignoring them during stealth sections)
Something something Persona.
Oh god, that would mean the world to me.
Thank you ♪
Then what i have been playing for the past 10 years or so?
Action/adventure games that happen to have horror themes.
Action/adventures is not a genre.
That's why there's a separator there.
Survival horror is a subgenre.
Actually, Action-Adventure is a genre. It's a subgenre/hybrid genre of both Action and Adventure.
Genres are not strict definitions. They're categories based off stylistic criteria, and they're flexible.
Not anymore it isn't, just a label people throw on any game that has dimly lit hallways and monsters in it.
Survival horror is most certainly a genre though. You can't call the likes of Silent Hill 1-3, Amnesia, Clocktower and Fatal Frame "action adventure".
Horror is all about dis-empowerment, action is all about ultimate empowerment.
That's weak, I really was hoping it'd remove the autosaving, or lessened it at least.
GETTING BACK TO PERSONA...
Do you guys thing P5 will utilize P4G's autosaving? I'd argue that release only has it because it's portable.
It's not anything. It's a nonsensical term that nobody can agree on the meaning of (see the constant mudslinging debates of "no this is survival horror!" "no it isn't this is" "lol no actually this is") which roots from the fact that it was a nonsense Engrish marketing term used by Capcom for the first Resident Evil. It's totally meaningless, just as you'd look sideways at somebody trying to say that survival panic (used for Dino Crisis) or crazy hard action (used for DMC) are real genres, so should you look at people who use survival horror.
I can, because... they are. Maybe just adventure.
By this definition, Daimakaimura is the most horrifying survival horror game of all time.Horror is all about dis-empowerment, action is all about ultimate empowerment.
Oh, Persona Persona Persona.
Just because you don't have any idea of what a genre is, doesn't mean we're all that foolish. Survival horror is perfectly well defined, despite what some idiots on the internet may argue.
I imagine Persona 5 will follow in the footsteps of SMT IV and allow you to save anywhere, regardless if it's a console or handheld release. You can effectively do this in Persona 3/Persona 4 anyhow, as long as you're prepared for it.
I was joking.
But really, "Survival Horror is not a genre (or subgenre, whatever)" is just a poor excuse invented by Resident Evil 4 apologists.
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