No that's not Aigis. Her name is Ai Kurogami, and she has motorcycle legs as jello mentioned. ><;
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Persona Series Story & Spoilers, P4G Reflection, Persona 5 Speculation Inevitable
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No that's not Aigis. Her name is Ai Kurogami, and she has motorcycle legs as jello mentioned. ><;
Lemon Crest
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Huh..guess those are speakers then.
Man,the Kirjo group really has thing for robo girls.
I wouldn't be surprised if we saw another in P5.
P5 gonna be Ghost in the Shell
She's not part of the Kirjio group, apparently. She works at Junes... >_>;
Between her, the ripping off of Kara no Kyoukai, and Naoto having implausibly long hair, I really hate that novel... D:
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
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how long until the famitsu reveal? pretty sure it's versus but it would be awesome if it was p5.
Wasn't March the earlier guess? I believe it fits the pattern.
we.are.the.armada
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Next Tuesday, I think.
Yep. Famitsu leaks hit Tuesday evenings.
March was the earlier guess and if this isn't P5, I'll keep holding on to that.
googled her.
Looks exactly like her..and she even smokes???!!
Has Type Moon sued yet lol?
TurnipFritters
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P5 is just gonna straight up be Love Hina.
Don't say such horrible things!
I don't see anything wrong with it. Current persona game is already heavily influenced with dating sim genre. I think it will be fine.
I just hope Atlus doesn't pull Arc System Work's shitty writing incorporated with the background story of P5.
My body is ready.
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
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I don't care what p5 is. As long as it had a darker tone/decent story/actual villain this time.
HYPE!
Admiral Snackbar
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Is it wrong that I got super hyped for a second at the thought? I...sorta adored Love Hina.
What do you mean decent story, actual villain this time? P4 had great storyline and great villain.
we.are.the.armada
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What's a Love Hina?
And does anybody think that dark=mature? I think that Atlus does dark very well, but sometimes the enigmatic darkness is a bullshit cover to hide that a game lacks mature complexity.
Ooh the walls are bleeding, so edgy man, so dark... so misunderstood and dark...
Yeah, fuck that.
And does anybody think that dark=mature? I think that Atlus does dark very well, but sometimes the enigmatic darkness is a bullshit cover to hide that a game lacks mature complexity.
Ooh the walls are bleeding, so edgy man, so dark... so misunderstood and dark...
Yeah, fuck that.
CielTynave
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Admiral Snackbar
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Love Hina was a really over the top harem-anime that had a buncha girls slowly falling for a doofy college failure. It is everything Persona should not be. But also hilarious.
P3 was dangerously close to high school poetry 'dark', but it toed the line safely until near the end. The ending made up for it! P4 was pitch perfect for me.
the others already played like a harem anime with the girls s.links.
I like the cast to be more mature this time, like the MC could be a police detective or something. P2:EP was refreshing in this sense because none of the characters were high schoolers.
meltingparappa
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Hashino said they're going to change things up, which guarantees it'll be a 100% otome game.
we.are.the.armada
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Thanks, Love Hina's plot sounds like fun.
I hope that P5 is bright and colorful and social, so that when you least expect it, the deaths and losses and challenges will have even more impact. I'd love for it to be based in America Mura, Osaka - vivid and lots of neon and music, but full of scum bags and crooked cops that lurk in the night.
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
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As long as it isn't like p4 I really dint care. Playing p2 right now and I think it has just what I was looking for. Dark but not taking it to far. It also balances it out with look hearted moments as well.
Buwahahahahahahaha. You played Scooby doo through the whole game. The story was okay but izanami is a freaking joke. Definitely the weakest villain in the franchise and probably the weakest villain I have seen in a looooong time.
I played P2 too, but I think it is getting way too much credit for having a darker story.
If you really think scooby doo = P4, then yeah, you sure you watched scooby doo? Because I really want to watch scooby doo you watched. It must be freaking awesome.
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
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The story is just better in every way imo(and not just because it's darker). P2 isn't really all that dark. It was dark sometimes but it all balanced out. I never felt like they are trying to hard. P4 was just too happy. It didn't have that "balance" that p2 had.
Scooby doo was indeed awesome.
WrenchNinja
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When you say weak, are you referring to difficulty or characterization/motivation? If its the first, then yeah ill agree. If its the others though, not so much.
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
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Both. Nyx was hot garbage imo too. I don't trust them to come up with a decent villain in p5 so I'm hoping they just bring nyarlathotep back. Compare izanami to him and you'll see why she fails.
WrenchNinja
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I guess I dont see why the jilted lover trying to prove that the truth is pointless is really so much worse than than mankind's evil trying to win a bet.
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
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It's not the concept, it's the actual villain itself I have a problem with. I felt like izanami wasn't "villain"enough(if that makes sense). Once again, compare her deeds to nyarlathotep and you'll see why she fails.
It sounds like you're basically just saying you prefer blatant, in-your-face, dare I say comic book villain-y when P4 actually does something more.
Izanami is an omnipotent presence that looms in the background for P4's entirety. She lights the spark, watches the show from other the teams noses, and if you don't pursue the true ending, she wins despite the group thinking that they have. They never even know she's around.
To me, that's much more interesting than your standard edgy villain monologing and doing deplorable things right in front of you. It's just so much more sinister.
WrenchNinja
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Well her deeds were corrupting one world with her fog, banishing her true self and making her a slave and pawn, spreading a rumor, giving three guys the power to open a gate to said corrupted world, letting a couple of murders and kidnappings happen as public unrest ensued over the course of a year, spreading her fog to the real world and finally trying to kill her ex for realsies all because she was rejected for being a rotting corpse and thought the truth hurt and no one could seriously want it. I mean yeah, of course she fails but the good guys gotta win eventually right.
Youll have to lay out Nyarlalotheps deeds cause Ive never played either persona 2. He sounds pretty great from quotes and descriptions. I should play innocent sin one of these days.
Youll have to lay out Nyarlalotheps deeds cause Ive never played either persona 2. He sounds pretty great from quotes and descriptions. I should play innocent sin one of these days.
buddha0991
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Ever actually play P2
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
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^^^^
Nyarlathotep did the exact same thing (except he was much more "evil" with it).
TurnipFritters
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He posed as the dead father of an emotionally unstable youth for like a decade and egging him on to create a doomsday cult by manipulating his insecurities (his insecurities were many). He made it so rumors would eventually become reality if they spread far enough and planted completely ludicrous stories to see what would catch on (things that caught on: A spear that stabbed Jesus so hard the blood wouldn't stop flowing from the wound, Mayan Space Aliens colonized Japan, Hitler's still alive in a secret bunker in Antarctica).
When the teenagers he had been screwing with through the entire game finally confronted him, he turned into a giant body horror of their assorted fathers wearing bondage gear.
In Eternal Punishment he basically spends the whole game screwing with the main character of IS. It's... different than, say, P4 or IS, where the characters didn't realize they were being toyed with until the finale, because the he knows who Nyarl is, what Nyarl is trying to do, what he's capable of, etc. So (the main character from IS)'s got this omnipresent jerkface trying to mess with him, his friends, his family, the friends he doesn't talk to anymore and random civilians just to get a rise out of him.
I haven't actually played Persona 2 (something I wish to remedy soon), but it's really not that hard to see why Izanami might be considered a poor villain. I can understand, in fact, I quite like a number of aspects to it. It's a big metaphor for the Japanese creation myth, if Yomotsu Hirasaka didn't make that obvious. I know that they took some pains to make sure there were some 'hints' to allude to her identity. But at the end of the day, the heart of the truth that we all sought was... well, a gas station attendant. It's not exactly climactic stuff, and I don't think they give it much its' due. It feels very... condensed, for lack of a better word. She's the core of the mystery, the 'source', and at the end of the day, I don't think they do a lot with her one she's outed. It's a bit dissatisfying, as far as closure to the 'mystery' goes.
Without knowing much about Persona 2, one can't help but think that's a bit of a step down from the Crawling Chaos.
That said, the last few minutes of Izanami's boss fight is easily one of the most memorable moments I've had in a video game.
Without knowing much about Persona 2, one can't help but think that's a bit of a step down from the Crawling Chaos.
That said, the last few minutes of Izanami's boss fight is easily one of the most memorable moments I've had in a video game.
buddha0991
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Oh and he is also responsible for P4A lol
TurnipFritters
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This might just be the most evil thing he's ever done
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
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*dead*
No, that was just my response to his vague request for what he wants in a villain. Your welcome to enlighten me. It just sounds like the argument is Simplicity vs... Not simplicity.
I concede! Nyarl sounds fucked up!
Nyarlathotep is a great bad guy.
I'd really appreciate a better actual plot in P5 (They really need to get Tadashi back :/). I love P3 and P4, but man, the plot could be so much stronger.
Hahahaha!
I'd really appreciate a better actual plot in P5 (They really need to get Tadashi back :/). I love P3 and P4, but man, the plot could be so much stronger.
Hahahaha!
cj_iwakura
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Read these:
http://mindlessones.com/2011/09/29/great-moments-in-bastardry-persona-2/
http://www.chthonian.net/persona/tsumi/characters/nyarlyphilly.html
I liked Izanami, but she wasn't nearly as expanded on as she could've been.
Didn't he write the new scenario for P2:EP PSP? Thought he was still there.
cj_iwakura
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I believe he no longer works for Atlus, and they asked him to pen the EP scenario, and received something more effed up than anything in P3 or P4.
I would love to know what he would have devised for those games.
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