meltingparappa
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I'd love to read this as well. With a another semi-guaranteed sequel/spinoff after P4A, there's still time to retcon this in.Seriously? Where is this? Even if it's implausible, it'd still be a good read
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Persona Series Story & Spoilers, P4G Reflection, Persona 5 Speculation Inevitable
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Those games specifically look and animate like an actual television show. They are the most striking examples of realtime graphics masquerading as animation I have ever seen.
ALL of the footage is 100% realtime.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=r5F-BLLChoM#t=29s
The types of battles you see in this game are fully controllable, but that quality should be even easier to obtain in a menu driven RPG. That seems like a perfect fit to me.
Seriously? Where is this? Even if it's implausible, it'd still be a good read
I think I may have read it on the Atlus US forums. I did some scanning but since I came across it when Persona 4 originally came out, I haven't been able to find the original discussion.
That said, I came across a condensed version on TvTropes (of all places).
"How about Teddie being a shadow born from Nanako
Specifically he was born from Nanako's feelings of loneliness. Nanako may have been young, but as seen by her and Dojima's Social Links she has more then enough problems already to have a Shadow. She is trying to come to grips about death, misses her mother, and her father is almost never around. I don't think I recall seeing her spend time with friends either, she just goes home and watches TV.
Now look at Teddie. He's a shadow who wanted to be accepted by people. Nanako's loneliness could translate into Teddie's desire for friends. Teddie also very quickly hits it off with the Main Character, who is also the first person Nanako is able to draw close to. Teddie also has a tendency to say things as though it were a commercial which is easily explainable by how much time Nanako spends watching TV, and even somewhat paralleled by her singing along with commercial jingles. When Teddie becomes independent enough to form his own self and enters the real world, he very quickly becomes a friend to Nanako, who may in fact be his best friend besides the Main Character.
This would also explain the absence of Nanako's Shadow when she was in the TV world. It wasn't because she was too young to create a shadow, it was because her Shadow was already there. Furthermore it's Nanako's "death" that causes Teddie to return involuntarily to the subconscious and have his existential crisis, along with having his epiphany about just what he was."
There's some discussion about the implications of this theory:
"While this makes a certain amount of sense, it means that Nanako is going to be a raging lesbian when she grows up."
"Er, well be that as it may, it does nothing to discount the hypothesis itself, it merely point's out an additional consequence of it being correct that This Troper hadn't thought of while typing it. Besides, it's not like possible homosexuality is anything new to Persona 4 anyway."
"Perhaps not. For all of Teddie's "scoring with girls" obsession that winds up consuming his whole Personality it seemed to be entirely imprinted upon at first. When you meet him he's not like that at all in fact aside from being childlike and friendly doesn't seem to have much of a personality. It's not until his encounters with Yukiko' shadow that he starts to talk about scoring all the time, and the fact that the next two dungeons are also related to sexual themes just reinforces the notion. This doesn't make him a perverted bear by nature, just extremely impressionable like a child. Unfortunately the people he imprinted upon happened to be a crowd of hormonal teenagers."
I remember there being more to the theory but I don't even remember the game very well to recall all the different points the original author used. It did seem overly complicated, though, so I have zero doubt that it was never the intention of the original designers.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/WMG/Persona4
How guaranteed is semi-guaranteed? I love P4A, as I said above I'd be more than satisfied if that story only continues in a P5A.
buddha0991
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I wonder if P5 ends up being a kill em all, how people would react.
meltingparappa
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This line alone make my heart shed moe tears.
But she mentioned hanging out with
imaginary friend
I can write off Teddie's obsession with "scoring" because I almost think he has no idea what it really means.
I'll agree that it is super far fetched as some of the connections are pretty out there, but I kind of like the idea. Actually, I really like the idea.
If they do follow up on the Nyarlathotep story, there's no way they couldn't at least reference both shadow operatives and the P4 crew both searching him out.
If P5A is where that happens and it mostly focuses on P5 characters and they structure it like P4A and all characters get a VN story mode, then that's the most likely venue to continue the P4 universe and either take any loose story threads to their logical conclusion, or go even more nuts on the fanservice (like a random shot of Akihito/Chie OTP as police officers).
we.are.the.armada
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I would love, love, love to see Atlus' take on FFXII's gambit system combat.
That's neat, BeesEight, thanks
That's neat, BeesEight, thanks
Suddenly I want a sidestory game about Akihiko's life as a cop. Catherine-style story content fused with Anarchy Reigns style brawling.
buddha0991
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Trinity Soul had Akihiko as cop, it was also a terrible show.
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
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What do you mean?
A TvTropes reference.
I don't think we'll ever see an ending like that. I imagine Innocent Sin will remain as the Persona game with the saddest ending.
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
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I would love a ending like that. It pisses me off that nobody suffered in p4.
I would be sad if the ladies and Nana-chan suffered.
Would of felt like my 100 hours gone to waste too.
Supermanisdead
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That's why I liked P3 better. RIP Shinji and Mitsuru's dad.
But nobody suffered in Innocent Sin's ending.
buddha0991
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Should be RIP Ken instead, except instead of RIP, I would be saying good riddance.
Hear Hear. Fuck Ken right up his stupid ass.
TurnipFritters
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No, that's Aigis.
SpaceBridge
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Interesting, I never got this ending. So, how does one obtain this ending?
So, P4 has three endings then? Plus two final bosses? One true boss?
When you're in the room with Namatame, choose to throw him in the TV.
A lot of people love Aigis. She is so adorable.
Man, I wish I could find that Aigis and Chie chibi brofist pic from that other thread...
TurnipFritters
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There's... Throw Namatame in the TV, Save Namatame but don't figure out the Killer's real identity, Defeat Ameno-Sagiri and leave town without defeating Izanami, Defeat Izanami (True End), and then like, a new ending for Golden, I think, where you help Adachi out?
cj_iwakura
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He just didn't seem like that good of a character. He makes Junpei look boss.
But they reversed Maya's death by forgetting about her.
All the Persona games have happy endings (Except EP, maybe? I haven't played it). It makes complete sense for the happiest of them to have the happiest ending. I thought it was absolutely perfect.
cj_iwakura
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Uh... did you play Innocent Sin?
TurnipFritters
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Well, P4 was kind of sad. Everyone saying good bye to the best person to ever step foot in that town.
Kanji didn't leave Inaba though?
Yep. I never understood how that was considered a sad ending. Philemon reversed it all. The only thing they lost was their friendship, and they met up again and remembered each other anyway.
And it was glorious.
If you count that then everyone in every game suffered.
What I meant is that at the end of that game everyone ends up better than before. Then EP happens, but that's another story.
TurnipFritters
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If they remember, the contract is invalidated and the world gets destroyed. EP is basically non-stop crapping on the IS cast and it's a pretty big bummer.
....if you do things wrong, you get to see Lisa and Eikichi sobbing their eyes out at Alaya Shrine during the ending because they remembered everything that happened.
Nah, talking about Yu although Kanji is boss too. Too bad I never used him.
My team always had Yosuke, Chie, and Yukiko in it.
TurnipFritters
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...Did you just ruin the Eternal Punishment ending for me?
Considering P3 is A Thing That Exists, it is safe to assume that the world does not end.
The new ending in Golden is twisted. Everyone should see it at least once. Even has new anime cutscenes.
My favorite thing about that ending is how the "weather report" gets changed to the "fog report."
Do people actually think this? He has one line about it, and it's meant as a joke.
This picture never gets old. Never.
When you think about it, that would kill any big P2 cameos in future Personas wouldn't it? Since if they can't remember any of the events they wouldn't be able to use their Personas no?
It seems like out of all the Persona games the P2 cast gets the shortest end of the stick out of all of them.
TurnipFritters
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They'd all be adult-adults, and we've seen what happens to over-thirties in P3/P4.
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