SolidChamp
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And don't forget, a large portion of the public faces who are guilty of tainting it make fuckloads of money doing so! Racism and misogyny CAN be rewarded, folks!!
Fuck everything.
PewDiePie calls someone a "fucking n****r" during PUBG livestream
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And don't forget, a large portion of the public faces who are guilty of tainting it make fuckloads of money doing so! Racism and misogyny CAN be rewarded, folks!!
Fuck everything.
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What the fuck would be the in-between? Kinda racist?
I guess there's good and bad racism like everything in life...
Are you one of those people that were once hurt by people of different race/religion/country and therefore thinks that it is justified to hate all of the members group?
Lmao
Fucking christ
Fucking literally "in the middle". It's like he's perpetuating his own stereotype.
NHarmonic.
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Daffy Duck
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I'd say they are famous because the kids who watch don't give a second thought to politics and don't care or think about it, all they care about is watching that 10 minute video of their favourite person doing what they do.
Glitter and Gold
Banned
Fucking christ
the people in the middle are also racists tho
UberTag
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Yeah, it's a pretty black or white issue. Very little grey about it.
Yeah, those in the middle like to pretend there's grey. But they're either racist themselves, in denial about being racist or they're complicit in racism. And all of these stances are equally bad.
And those who are actively outspoken about their "middle" stance have an agenda... and that agenda sure as fuck isn't "racism is bad".
Fucking christ
Is this meant sarcastically? If so, the mods might have overlooked someone
Nabs
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Fucking christ
That fence got wedged in good, huh? lol
What did he mean by this?
Member
Fucking christ
Shit is parody levels at this point.
Perhaps all along the middle ground between racist and not racist was "says racial and homophobic slurs during heated gaming moments but doesnt mean it like that"
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who the fuck is boogie and has pewdiepie addressed this yet? better be actual consequences for this shit
ReplacementPelican
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Who is he even talking about? Like, who in his 'middle' is being hurt by this? What in God's name is Boogie even on about anymore?Fucking christ
But that's the smoking gun in this, surely? The people like Boogie who defend the 'middle' are usually defending it against people upset because someone is racist and homophobic and usually don't spend that effort defending against people actually being racist and homophobic.
The 'middle' bullshit is a ploy, they use 'the middle' when those bloody liberals start getting upset about racism, misogyny and homophobia but they don't do the same when people are actually being racist, misogynistic and homophobic. That's precisely what Boogie is doing now.
Interface23
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Fucking christ
What in the fuck? "That's fine?" Dude... say "I'm not, racism is fucked up and Pewds is a shitheel". It's not hard.
Fucking christ
Idiot isn't defending anybody. Certainly wouldn't want him on my side at this rate. Keep showing your ass Boogie.
excelsiorlef
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Fucking christ
I thought he said the middle was a great place to be!
ScaryShark
Banned
You'd be very wrong.
Soul of the Beast
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I think he's talking about other youtubers who he thinks could be hurt down the road if the firewatch dmca takedown sets the wrong (in his eyes) precedent.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong because I don't understand the full boogie history on this stuff
Watching all these posters come out of the woodwork to get banned for defending racism, I feel like Willy Wonka pretending/not pretending to give a shit about stupid kids getting fucked up doing stupid shit: no...wait...don't do that...come back...
Someone please post the appropriate gif.
Someone please post the appropriate gif.
Fucking christ
So basically he's not defending a racist. He's defending racists. Plural!
PhantomThief
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The biggest videogame streamer being a racist cunt isnt gaming related?
People should take into account the social context as much he should take into account his audience...
Case and point - Estonia. Closed community, next to no racial mixing, no religion (95% atheist). Only foreigners are Russians that were bought here during Soviet invasion - 30% of population but they are visually indistinguishable and by now they are more or less our people, since most of them by now support Estonia and not "the motherland".
So about 15 years ago or so we had the first nonwhite people come to live here and we were like little kids at gala dinner. People could not help but to stare, some where afraid,didn't what to say. Some thought its a tan etc. Then ofc we had like 5 nazis pop up (we are a small country, so 5 probably about the right size of the group in this case) who ofc needed to bully the poor black student who came study here, it was all over the news and it was awkward and no one quite new how to behave. So the topic was kind of ignored then, but now, over the years , i'd say we have become a bit more attractive and we have an increase of different cultured/colored people and our limited experience in the past is showing. Just a few years ago one of our top politics used the N-word publicly and if my memory serves me correctly, the lingual committee supported him in the post mortem. Why?
Because "Neeger" (n-word in estonian) is a nicer word by meaning than "must" (black), because "must" means dirty as well in Estonian and calling people dirty is worse in this case.
Also, because socially the n-word does not carry the same meaning here - its was never used in the context of slavery. Only as word to describe color - an adoption of the latin term Niger (https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/niger#Latin - i thought it was Negros tbh ) or sth. The bad connotation became known to us only with American culture much later.
Now I am not saying that PDP should not know his audience and should not take into account the meaning of what he says to other people. But to those other I would say, that words can have different meanings in different cultures and just because someone says what you think they said, it is possible that he/or she did not mean it in the same way as you understand it.
Language and culture is not black n white mkey
expect that's not the case here at all
he knows the full context of the word and used it in a specific, hateful way
Fucking christ
Boogie capping for all the Malcolm's of the world. Fight the good fight boogie
ScientificPizza
Banned
oh my godFucking christ
is this dude paid every time he talks about the middle or something? i've never seen someone so cartoonishly devoted to such a pathetic ideal
Oh yeah?
There's no middle ground for him to take between "racism good" and "racism bad" so he's just oscillating between the two in the hope that it will average out to the middle.
People should take into account the social context as much he should take into account his audience...
Case and point - Estonia. Closed community, next to no racial mixing, no religion (95% atheist). Only foreigners are Russians that were bought here during Soviet invasion - 30% of population but they are visually indistinguishable and by now they are more or less our people, since most of them by now support Estonia and not "the motherland".
So about 15 years ago or so we had the first nonwhite people come to live here and we were like little kids at gala dinner. People could not help but to stare, some where afraid,didn't what to say. Some thought its a tan etc. Then ofc we had like 5 nazis pop up (we are a small country, so 5 probably about the right size of the group in this case) who ofc needed to bully the poor black student who came study here, it was all over the news and it was awkward and no one quite new how to behave. So the topic was kind of ignored then, but now, over the years , i'd say we have become a bit more attractive and we have an increase of different cultured/colored people and our limited experience in the past is showing. Just a few years ago one of our top politics used the N-word publicly and if my memory serves me correctly, the lingual committee supported him in the post mortem. Why?
Because "Neeger" (n-word in estonian) is a nicer word by meaning than "must" (black), because "must" means dirty as well in Estonian and calling people dirty is worse in this case.
Also, because socially the n-word does not carry the same meaning here - its was never used in the context of slavery. Only as word to describe color - an adoption of the latin term Niger (https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/niger#Latin - i thought it was Negros tbh ) or sth. The bad connotation became known to us only with American culture much later.
Now I am not saying that PDP should not know his audience and should not take into account the meaning of what he says to other people. But to those other I would say, that words can have different meanings in different cultures and just because someone says what you think they said, it is possible that he/or she did not mean it in the same way as you understand it.
Language and culture is not black n white mkey
He subbed the word with asshole moments after realising dropping the n word was a bad idea. That was his thought process.
You typed a lot of words defending a racist.
John Rabbit
Banned
Fucking christ
This is so transparently someone dealing with their own insecurities about their feelings on race it's almost sad.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
It's literally a parody. Boogie sees himself as some great shield but in reality he's a dumbass who doesn't realize the middle can harbor some of the worst people.
Same. I don't think we're afforded the luxury of that platonic gaming ideal where we're all having fun and whatever. Whenever you feel like slacking on pushing back against bullshit like this, just realize that you've got work to do that's so much more important than being able to sit back and have fun with games. It's hard for me to even jump into anything anymore because I feel so much the need to just, at the very least, add my voice to the side that isn't a complete human garbage sewer. This PDP stuff is just one more giant turd.
MarineMountie
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Fucking christ
What he said there makes sense and it's why Boogie is on of the very few personalities I even watch anymore.
He isn't defending Pewdiepie or what he said. He is defending the right to free speech on media platforms for those that AREN'T blatantly racist. That is who he means when he says "those caught in the middle". Meaning those that could be punished because of the act of one personality.
ScientificPizza
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unfortunately you're very wrong
Fucking christ
Big Jimmy Eat World fan
Gold_Loot
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Im pretty sure he's referring to the DMCA being issued by the Firewatch devs over PDPs video walk through he did years ago. (Due to the shitty comments he made )In fairness ALOT of you tubers are going apeshit over this issue right now.
Exactly, you would (thankfully) never get away scot-free with saying that shit in Sweden if you are famous in any way.
ReplacementPelican
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He's a Swedish person who lives in England and makes money off English-based pop culture. He knows what the word means.People should take into account the social context as much he should take into account his audience...
Case and point - Estonia. Closed community, next to no racial mixing, no religion (95% atheist). Only foreigners are Russians that were bought here during Soviet invasion - 30% of population but they are visually indistinguishable and by now they are more or less our people, since most of them by now support Estonia and not "the motherland".
So about 15 years ago or so we had the first nonwhite people come to live here and we were like little kids at gala dinner. People could not help but to stare, some where afraid,didn't what to say. Some thought its a tan etc. Then ofc we had like 5 nazis pop up (we are a small country, so 5 probably about the right size of the group in this case) who ofc needed to bully the poor black student who came study here, it was all over the news and it was awkward and no one quite new how to behave. So the topic was kind of ignored then, but now, over the years , i'd say we have become a bit more attractive and we have an increase of different cultured/colored people and our limited experience in the past is showing. Just a few years ago one of our top politics used the N-word publicly and if my memory serves me correctly, the lingual committee supported him in the post mortem. Why?
Because "Neeger" (n-word in estonian) is a nicer word by meaning than "must" (black), because "must" means dirty as well in Estonian and calling people dirty is worse in this case.
Also, because socially the n-word does not carry the same meaning here - its was never used in the context of slavery. Only as word to describe color - an adoption of the latin term Niger (https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/niger#Latin - i thought it was Negros tbh ) or sth. The bad connotation became known to us only with American culture much later.
Now I am not saying that PDP should not know his audience and should not take into account the meaning of what he says to other people. But to those other I would say, that words can have different meanings in different cultures and just because someone says what you think they said, it is possible that he/or she did not mean it in the same way as you understand it.
Language and culture is not black n white mkey
Sure, in your one example it makes some sense, I'm not Estonian so wont delve too deep into this but he's not in Estonia, he wasn't speaking to Estonians. Its a crap excuse mate, sorry.
Good.
You can't get away with shit like this in any other field or job (except maybe an American police officer, new-age Nazi or a student being forced to read To Kill a Mockingbird out loud) so neither should someone with a public presence.
Nope, he's talking about Felix and defending him.
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