Read back a few pages. People have posted links which says that that is not the case.
Phil Spencer Discusses Why FFXIV Isn't on Xbox (Contradictions?)
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boredandlazy
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If you think about it...
We all win.
You must not know of statham's posting and thread history on Gaf.
Just a month ago Yoshida was talking about potentially having it come out on NX. So no, there is no exclusivity deal.
Facism
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imagine having hollywoord hardman Jason Statham as your avatar and name, but having skin as thick as a broken condom.
Imagine.
Amazing scenes.
They should rethink their position and open up for crossplay. What's the actual harm in people being able to play FFXIV together?
It's an MMO, after all. More exposure is more subscriptions.
They want to be everywhere.
SomedayTheFire
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Spencer's a PR guy, they lie all the time and obfuscate the truth. The latter is obviously what's happening here. MS don't play well with other platform's.
Maybe cuz his tweet is DIRECTLY related to this thread and he is a member on this forum.
Like one member said : it's a dick move.
Ah fair enough.
Except on twitter. I'll shit all over in there.
lighthouse777
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it is a real policy.. I doubt sony would allow playstation to cross play with Microsoft
the fact there will be crossplay with Xbox and PC is new
and with backwards we can now crossplay the One with the 360
and guys SO what, why are you getting your panties in a bunch over this?
with all the real issues in the world today?? seriously
Good point.
Why are we talking about video games on a video game forum?!?!?!?!?
Have you guys seen Cooking with Dog? It's the cutest little cooking show on Youtube!
FUCKIN' SONY, YOU MADE ME STUB MY TOE!!!
LiquidSolid
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FFXI came to the 360 back when Microsoft were desperate to get Final Fantasy on Xbox and boost their Japanese lineup, so they granted them an exception from their policies. Now they don't care about Final Fantasy or Japan, so they're not granting them an exception.
You really can't make up the OP quotes, it's pretty amazing. Seems like the standard Microsoft response in regards to the shitload of games coming to PS4 but not Xbone is to imply it's all Sony moneyhats and that Microsoft are the good guys and don't do that sort of stuff. Doesn't matter if there are very good non-moneyhat related reasons for that exclusivity, like Microsoft's very own policies blocking a release, just blame Sony for everything.
Ghost Slayer
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GinoFelino
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I like you.
Darkstorne
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So Spencer is pretending this is an exclusivity deal, when it's not. It's because he won't allow Xbox servers to communicate with PC and PS4 servers. He then says he doesn't like exclusivity deals, but is perfectly happy to remind us that Tomb Raider is launching "exclusively on Xbox, Holiday 2015"
Okay. Microsoft haven't changed much after all. Still lying out of their asses.
Okay. Microsoft haven't changed much after all. Still lying out of their asses.
jimbobsmells
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As long as someone picks out the dog hair
Ghost Slayer
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I'm surprised the thread last this long for a Spencer thread.
My bad, I thought you were implying people shouldn't be bringing Twitter stuff to GAF to discredit a poster or something.
I keep posting, and the more I post the more I wonder why it isn't locked by now.
:'(
Kenzodielocke
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I think it's because people behaving well for a Phil Spencer thread.
Ghost Slayer
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GinoFelino
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Mods like Cooking with Dog.
Twitter is usually where banned NeoGAF users go to vent.
Microsoft under Nadella are pushing their products on many platforms. You get Xbox games and achievements on iOS. Their other products make their way to iOS and Android. Microsoft everywhere approach, likely because they have to but nonetheless, they do spread themselves about quite happily so people can use their stuff on whatever platform they use which is a win either way.
Do you know what I think Microsoft doesn't like.
Play F2P or MMO on PS4 - Free
Play F2P or MMO on Xbox One - Xbox Live Gold required.
Ghost Slayer
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we had posts specific about twitter (included me) and it was out of the topic. Usually, mods will close it but they didn't. I wonder why
I don't know if it constitutes lying. Shuhei Yoshida did the same kind of thing with the Driveclub fiasco and I didn't see such a shit flinging fest with such strong labels being chucked around.
It definitely is a bigger issue though but in both cases I think its most likely based on misinformation. In Spencer's case though, he might just be telling the truth. Who knows what the nature of the industry is like in the background?
Haunted
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Nothing sweeter than reading the salt of banned GAFers on other websites. :lol
Here's hoping they have more luck with their new junior member alt accounts.
EASTC0AST_GH05T
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Phil/ Xbox defense force come on guys for one second look passed the PR BS. Can you imagine how great it would be for gamers if cross platfrom policies was lifted specifically from MMO's, that way everyone can play on there desired platform of choice. The server population for a popular MMO would always be full and you can play with friends who prefer to play on different platforms with you who may be more comfortable where they are at.
Haunted
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FFVII remake looking good
BLOODED_hands
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Hm... I see now! So we're the ones who are being shaken up and down right? The cook represents the mods? So who is dog?!
LowerLevel
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I curious if there is a communication issue at play. With maybe having the game come so much later, the infamous "parity" clause may be a problem? I know it's unlikely but I'm trying to figure out a reason here...
(Sigh) whatever the reason, it's foolishness most likely on MS' part.
(Sigh) whatever the reason, it's foolishness most likely on MS' part.
You either have Phil Spencer, the head of Xbox who needs to think of a reason for why a game isn't on his console, lying.
Or you have Naoki Yoshida, the director of the game who probably wants his game everywhere possible, lying.
This is not rocket science to figure out who's lying.
tattooed_dwarf
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I think there is bit overreaction. Basically Spencer didn't even say anything, even though he was speaking. I mean all those quotes are quite vague. And I think bringing Tomb raider to conversation as form to proof Spencer is lying is quite weak move. He does say "and you see us doing less of it now - [I've found] it's not something I'm a huge fan of" which to me sounds like he has changed his view on these deals. Tomb raider deal was made over year ago and lot has happened since. Reasons for his changed attitude are up to debate, whether he genuinely sees them bad or just finds explanatios since Sony gets deals through their market share.
Don't worry, statham ain't banned.
I'm sure we'll see him again outside this thread sometime soon.
sTATHAM IS THE DOG.
WATCHING US ALL FROM TWITTER..
But he was approached about bringing it to the Xbox One. Why say no?
Why blame it on third party deals that didn't happen?
So much like there not being a Parity clause...
Never change Septic loooool.
Loool "Everyone following MS knows this isn't true" - Maybe it's time to remove those shades.
He directly stated that the reason FFXIV is not on Xbox is because of a deal between Sony and Square Enix.
Naoki Yoshida, the person in charge of FFXIV, has stated the reason FFXIV is not on Xbox is because of Microsoft's policies.
If that isn't a lie, then I don't know what is.
SprachBrooks
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The only way to make that post cognitive is if you dismiss Xbox under Phil Spencer and Windows 10. Both products are now a result of user feedback, and the continuation of the preview/insider program - for both products - should give you an idea that this is a long term effort.
It added nothing to this topic. And people should be quite able to comment on GAF threads on Twitter without indirectly derailing the thread.
Kenzodielocke
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Well, if people wanna focus on statham this thread really should be locked.
Not that hard to talk on topic.
Even if MS would've allowed Cross-Play between PS4 and PC, is FF14 a game that would have enough players on that platform to justify it's existence?
Not that hard to talk on topic.
Even if MS would've allowed Cross-Play between PS4 and PC, is FF14 a game that would have enough players on that platform to justify it's existence?
Was that an answer for anything? Because it doesn't sound like an answer for anything.
In fact, what the heck are you talking about?
As a port to an MMO?
Yes. 100% yes. Any chance to get more subscriptions is worth taking, especially in an age of MMO's dying a year after release.
I did say maybe. Earlier i also said that his response was to further his agenda. As usual Kayant, you only see one side
