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[Horseganador]

The same old story with Phil Spencer and Xbox, next year will be the good one, we've learned from our mistakes, blablabla, they've been making people dizzy for 10 years like this, it doesn't work anymore.

 

[hemo memo]

That’s refreshing I guess. He could’ve easily spun that into easy PR bullshit way out. Disappointing is the perfect description for that game.

 

[MarkMe2525]

Just a reminder, not one person here that has commented (including me) has watched the full video yet.

 

[skit_data]

At 13:27. Bald head and glasses guy brings up PlayStation out of no where? Talking about how the XBOX Redfall debacle hurts everyone...

Isn’t that guy one of the writers of Forspoken, Gary Whitta? I was always a bit confused wether it’s the same guy or someone else.

 

[PropellerEar]

Not a fan of Phil but it takes so fucking balls to go on a podcast and talk about this shit the week it happens. I don't see the heads of Sony or Nintendo ever doing something like this. So props there at the very least.

Sony and Nintendo CEOs bow and apologize, gtfo with your bs about what Phil did now taking balls.

 

[FunkMiller]

Oh, fuck off, you silly cunt.

You looked at the obviously terrible state the game was in, and you were still happy for it to be released to consumers.

Actions always speak louder than words.

 

[Kacho]

E3 might be dead and buried but the “Wait ‘til E3!” drum beat lives on at Microsoft.

Hey, if they don't deliver this year there's always next years show to look forward to!

 

[Hot5pur]

"We knew there were problems and I was overall disappointed with how the game turned out, but we decided to charge you $70 for it anyway".

If you're trying to build Xbox as a brand, this ain't it chief.

 

[GHG]

What he said about building better games and what impact that will have on their console sales, position in the market, etc is damning.

He really doesn't get it, and if that's not the focus then what's the point of any of this?

 

[DJ12]

September 6th is in just 4 months. I wonder how much they'll learn "from the mistakes" in that time frame.

If its delayed again he's starting to learn

 

[Cyber_hunter026]

 

[Stare-Bear]

At 21:45 it kind of sounds like Phil is expecting to be let go in the near future...

 

[DeepEnigma]

A broken record.

Actions speak louder than words, and we've heard this all before.

 

[HTK]

I think in general folks in the community think Phil is a nice guy and he is. He's been more open and trying to get Xbox back on track and I think with the hardware release of Xbox Series X and GamePass were all good executions. However for 10 years now at the helm nothing has changed on the software side of the house. There are still issues with delivering high quality games and this is the frustration I have with Phil. They've got the studios, they've got the talent, what is the problem? I mean there are quite a few Xbox games that have gotten more than a year in delays and still come out abysmal, something is seriously wrong.

Only studios I have faith in are Turn 10 and Playground Games at this point.

 

[Kacho]

Isn’t that guy one of the writers of Forspoken, Gary Whitta? I was always a bit confused wether it’s the same guy or someone else.

Holy shit it is! He used to post here.

 

[Sorcerer]

I love how honest Phil is (3 days after the games comes out) LOL!!!

Where was the honesty when he was evaluating the game for release?

 

[GeoramA]

Same old spin from this clown. His only priority when it came to Redfall and Starfield was making sure they canned the PS5 versions.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

Honest commentary like this is why he's GAFs favorite gaming personality.

Love ya, Phil.

Adamsapple wouldn't be adamsapple without that succulent testicle

 

[XXL]

Neogaf in a nutshell

I take full responsibility - Fuck him
Not my fault - Fuck him
Stays silent - Fuck him

I don't see anyone saying that.

I see people saying they are sick of his PR, questioning if he knows what he is doing and making fun of Redfall.

All of this is 100% justified at this point.

Xbox fanboys have a bad habit of carrying on like they are being persecuted and pointing the fingers at everyone else like children.

If you want to know what part of the problem is for Xbox, look in the fucking mirror.

 

[ComputerBlue]

Sure…

 

[DeepEnigma]

Honest commentary like this is why he's GAFs favorite gaming personality.

Love ya, Phil.

 

[GHG]

They way these guys are framing the Redfall failure.

"Every time someone takes a risk on something new, let's try something that hasn't been done before, and it doesn't work, it hurts everybody."

Umm, can you not see that Redfall is trying nothing new?

 

[ShaiKhulud1989]

Well, you can be sorry all you want, the shit is already lying under my proverbal door.

 

[StueyDuck]

Neogaf in a nutshell

I take full responsibility - Fuck him
Not my fault - Fuck him
Stays silent - Fuck him

The outrage on here and online about redfall is ridiculous obviously.

But if you were paid multiple 100s of millions of dollars as a salary, its not insane to expect you to do your job to at least a satisfactory extent. So I do believe negative criticism of Phil is warranted, just not the hyperbolic stuff.

We just don't know where exactly the incompetence lies here.

 

[gothmog]

Well I think he's arguing that the game isn't fundamentally defective, and I agree with that. I haven't had it crash once. I haven't encountered a bug. That's a super low bar, but I see people arguing that the game is defective and I just haven't experienced that personally.

I don't think he wants to get into managing their creative vision, and instead is leaving that to the teams. It's not literally a crime to release a mid-tier game. For it to not be mid-tier, he would have to be telling the teams which creative decisions are good and which are bad. He's saying he is not going to be doing that. He's leaving that side to them.

As for optimizing graphics and performance, that's really the main thing they have no excuse on.

They were selling it as a top-tier game, though. HiFi Rush was a mid tier game sold as a mid tier game. A clear win for Xbox. This is just a shit show of people not being honest. If they had put it up for presale at $30-50 people would have started adjusting their expectations accordingly.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

what a hellish month for Xbox PR....this brand would be in the chopping block if it wasn't for MS's deep pockets long time ago.

 

[ShaiKhulud1989]

Umm, can you not see that Redfall is trying nothing new?

Yup, the problem with Redfall is that is basically a game that nobody wanted (including Austin Arkane) and nobody asked for. Yet it was revealed as a one more thing and MS was dedicated enough to order a CG trailer from Blur (that, i guess, woth more than the entire cutscene budget in the actual game).

But nice framing, I guess. Good for ya, Phil.

 

[Slicker than your average]

Honest commentary like this is why he's GAFs favorite gaming personality.

Love ya, Phil.

I think you need to upgrade Phil's ball in your throat to his member.

 

[Dr_Ifto]

He blamed the team in the end. Its your fucking call Phil. Your call! You are the boss. Jesus fucking christ.

"Team didn't hit their internal goals." my ass, Phil.

 

[Shut0wen]

Dont get the hate phils getting, sure hes responsible for the game being buggy (especially since this was in dev before ms brought bethesda) but even if the game was in a fine state itd still be an incredibly medicore game which that lies with harvey smith who imo isnt that great of a games director

 

[FunkMiller]

Neogaf in a nutshell

I take full responsibility - Fuck him
Not my fault - Fuck him
Stays silent - Fuck him

Puts out a great game = good job Phil!

That’s how this shit works.

 

[hepfom]

What does taking responsibility even mean for a CEO? Is he planning on firing himself? Such a pointless statement.

 

[saintjules]

I mean, Gary is right (timestamp).

 

[hemo memo]

Sony and Nintendo CEOs bow and apologize, gtfo with your bs about what Phil did now taking balls.

The only time I remember Sony doing it was the PSN hack. That resulted in 77 million accounts being compromised with personal details and credit cards leaked. As for Nintendo I honestly don’t remember but Reggie is a spin king so I doubt he apologized.

 

[Nydius]

Xbox fanboys have a bad habit of carrying on like they are being persecuted

The Xbox fan persecution complex is real. I mean just look at this mess. I screen grabbed it so I could highlight the relevant bit. This person is actively claiming Redfall is purposely being targeted because it’s on Xbox and that no one attacked Forspoken.

What reality are these kinds of people in because the widespread scorn re: Forspoken is easily found on the internet.

Edit:

I mean, Gary is right (timestamp).

He’s right about risk aversion for new IP but I’d counter with a single question: What, exactly, is “new” or “innovative” about Redfall?

It might be a new name but it’s treading nearly 10 year old ground and doesn’t bring a single new concept or new execution of the concept to the table. New title name but 10 year old game design.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

The outrage on here and online about redfall is ridiculous obviously.

But if you were paid multiple 100s of millions of dollars as a salary, its not insane to expect you to do your job to at least a satisfactory extent. So I do believe negative criticism of Phil is warranted, just not the hyperbolic stuff.

We just don't know where exactly the incompetence lies here.

...the rock is redfall

 

[Mephisto40]

Saying exactly what he's been told to say

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

Dont get the hate phils getting, sure hes responsible for the game being buggy (especially since this was in dev before ms brought bethesda) but even if the game was in a fine state itd still be an incredibly medicore game which that lies with harvey smith who imo isnt that great of a games director

It's his job to spank dumbasses like harvey smith

 

[MiguelItUp]

Eh, he's gonna say what he needs to say in the public light, so it really doesn't make much of a difference unfortunately. Hopefully he actually DOES know, cares, and learned something. But for now, that's a large question mark.

 

[ChiefDada]

27:27

Phil Spencer: "Until you have an [Xbox] controller in your hand and smiling from playing one of our games, none of my words should matter."

Also Phil Spencer: I've agreed to interview with Kinda Funny Podcast today to communicate the lessons I've learned and tell all of you that the good games are coming for the millionth time.

 

[Punished Miku]

They were selling it as a top-tier game, though. HiFi Rush was a mid tier game sold as a mid tier game. A clear win for Xbox. This is just a shit show of people not being honest. If they had put it up for presale at $30-50 people would have started adjusting their expectations accordingly.

I agree with the pricing complaints. Feels like a mid-tier AA shooter that needs to be optimized graphically. That's been my position since I played it.

 

[GHG]

Lmao he really thought the game was going to review in the 70's (or even low 80's maybe?) based on their internal mock reviews?

The whole process is broken.

 

[Pelta88]

At 21:45 it kind of sounds like Phil is expecting to be let go in the near future...

That wont go over well in the core community but he does slip up and express that these failures will eventually lead to someone else being there.

That is the most important point of this interview. Nice catch Stare-Bear

 

[Ev1L AuRoN]

Neogaf in a nutshell

I take full responsibility - Fuck him
Not my fault - Fuck him
Stays silent - Fuck him

Enough is enough, we don't want excuses, doesn't matter if he takes responsibility if there is no consequence to it.
People are tired of the same old routine.
This is what I think of Phil taking responsibility.

Spoiler: nsfw

 

[gothmog]

I agree with the pricing complaints. Feels like a mid-tier AA shooter that needs to be optimized graphically. That's been my position since I played it.

I'm honestly baffled. It's like someone did an early 2000s tech demake of a better Arkane game.

 

[Punished Miku]

Enough is enough, we don't want excuses, doesn't matter if he takes responsibility if there is no consequence to it.
People are tired of the same old routine.
This is what I think of Phil taking responsibility.

Spoiler: nsfw

There's a whole thread criticizing him for not taking responsibility. I think that's what he was referring to.

 

[Ansphn]

How long is it going to take for this man to learn how to run Xbox? Excuses after excuses for the last 10 years. He's not a novice either. He was under Peter Moore and Don Mattrick for 10 years until he took over the Xbox division. This guy has to have blackmail on Satya Nadella and/or Brad Smith.

Some of his failures this generation.

1. Promising power and the most powerful console because the PS4's power hurt his ego.

2. Then splitting the Xbox SKU into 2 SKU. One being an all digital weak console called Series S. And the other being the powerful Series X.

3. Locking down parity between the 2 SKUs. Whatever games that came to the Series X has to be able to run on the series S. Thus the Series S holding back the Series X causing delays and performance issues for both consoles.

4. Letting Halo die, letting Gears die, letting Rare die forcing them to make sea of thieves forever. A once prominent studio.

So much more but I don't have time to type it all.

 

[TheGodfather07]

Phil convinced Microsoft to keep faith in xbox right? Well it's time to go back and tell them to pull the plug. Save yourselves the embarrassment because this ain't ever getting better.

 

[Interfectum]

Holy shit... the end of the interview is crazy. What Phil said about consoles and his competitors. Wow.

 

[Ev1L AuRoN]

There's a whole thread criticizing him for not taking responsibility. I think that's what he was referring to.

Right, I understand, but to take responsibility It's not just say something, it needs to be back it up with actions, that is my point.