HeWhoWalks
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Phil Spencer says FFVII Intergrade and FFXVI on Xbox is up to Square Enix
AmuroChan
Member
There's really no practical reason why Sony should lock these games down for more than a couple years. The diehard fans of those games have all played it by that point and the mindshare of those games will be with Sony. Sony doesn't suffer in any way if these games release on XBox two years after the fact.
asdasdasdbb
Member
I expect FF7R and FFXVI to come to Switch 2. Perhaps as launch titles even.
asdasdasdbb
Member
And they aren't. Square's not doing it unless Phil writes a big enough check to put it on Gamepass.
Unknown Soldier
Member
Microsoft? Lie? Wow, that never happens amirite!
Neofire
Member
They would, hopefully behind the scenes they are doing just that. Especially considering MS is been gobbling up developers as of late and locking down games themselves.......
YeulEmeralda
Linux User
And he's not because Microsoft doesn't care about getting Japanese games anymore- this isn't the 360 era.
K2D
Banned
See no evil, hear no evil...
Xbox is in competition with Sony, but when they aren't “King“, they don't want to acknowledge them.
EDMIX
Writes a lot, says very little
lol I mean shit, they should also be on platforms where the install base actually BUYS them. I get Sony has a deal with them, but lots of JRPGs don't come to this platform and I doubt Sony and Nintendo are just funding all JRPGs to just not come to XB or something, when they do come to the platform, they sell so little, it would be something crazy like 14% or 10% of sales, so they have a just reason to skip those systems.
The vast majority of JRPG fans own a Nintendo and PS and I don't know when or if that is ever going to really change.
So I'm sure those games will be ported in a few years on XB anyway and Square is waiting for MS to pay for those ports, but clearly...they have a logical fucking reason why they'd make MS pay for those ports to be made.
So if they are going to sell sooooo little, fuck it, make MS pay for the port and Square still banks and moves units. So i've said this before mind you, Octopath Traveler 2 not coming to XB I doubt is some deal with Nintendo and Sony to stop it or something, it is merely the result of the platform selling the least of their games, thus it makes sense for its focus to be on the platforms that sells those games THE MOST and merely have MS pay for the ports.
So I get the idea of "should be" but games are not free, it cost real money to roll out those games on many platforms and I'd say the Japanese have a solid reason to skip XB if a game isn't doing well and wait for MS to just pay for the port or some gamepass deal or something.
So I don't think JRPGs are "dying" and we've seen many break lots of records, I think they are doing just fine.
Mr.Phoenix
Member
First off, JRPGs are not dying. Second, not releasing on Xbox isn't what I would call reducing the audience.
*runs away.
drganon
Member
JTCx
Member
How is it a reduction if there's no audience to begin with?
Gambit2483
Member
Some people really still believe there's a significant JRPG audience on Xbox and it's kinda sad.
I'd really like to see the Persona engagement numbers on Gamepass
StueyDuck
Member
It's coming. Don't be so surprised when it happens. MS have made it clear then want to drown out completion by buying all the publishers.
That's not just going away tomorrow randomly. We are still in the early days of consolidation
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Persona 5 sold 8 million copies, Nier sold 8 million copies, Dragon Quest XI sold 7 million copies, even exclusive JRPGs like Xenoblade and Final Fantasy sell multi-million copies, but yes, JRPGs are dying
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
As we have been saying for years now, it's SquareEnix, not Sony.
Sony got timed-exclusivity contracts for FF7R that were over a long time ago. SquareEnix doesn't see it profitable to port that game to Xbox. But they will do it if Phil gives them the porting cost and some upfront profit.
Just like Persona games.
Just like Xbox had to all those years ago, writing $20 million cheques to publishers, when they didn't have ample market share.
Sony got timed-exclusivity contracts for FF7R that were over a long time ago. SquareEnix doesn't see it profitable to port that game to Xbox. But they will do it if Phil gives them the porting cost and some upfront profit.
Just like Persona games.
Just like Xbox had to all those years ago, writing $20 million cheques to publishers, when they didn't have ample market share.
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
Write them a fat check Phil. That's literally all you have to do.
drganon
Member
If his lips are moving, he's lying.Phil full of shit again, not surprising.
Microsoft confirms that Sony has blocked these 4 games from hitting Xbox forever
Silent Hill 2, Final Fantasy VII Remake, and more are apparently being held hostage by Sony.www.windowscentral.com
Esppiral
Member
Of course they don't play those games since Sony payed to avoid the release on Xbox, what a stupid take.
I would have bought both FF7R and XVI on Xbox since I like the controller better since they are exclusive I bought them on PS5, If they release them in the future on Xbox I won't be buying it, see the logic?
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laynelane
Member
Phil full of shit again, not surprising.Microsoft confirms that Sony has blocked these 4 games from hitting Xbox forever
Silent Hill 2, Final Fantasy VII Remake, and more are apparently being held hostage by Sony.
Phil really has been instrumental in creating a lot of bullshit narratives. This one really helped add to the 'poor XBox being bullied by evil Sony' narrative. It amazes me that people still take him seriously and expect him to be truthful in any way.
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Kenneth Haight
Gold Member
Doom85
Member
LMAO, the pizza bit is particularly hilarious. Pizza in Japan generally costs way more than most other countries.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Final fantasy VII remake was great and I can't wait for the sequel. Will play that on PlayStation. Always said I like that game.
The game that I personally felt was shite and I genuinely regret playing through 65 hours of it was Final Fantasy XVI. I felt compelled to complete it for my love of JRPGS. I did all the side quests....but man. What a bang average to bad game. Shouldn't have got more than a 6 out of ten imo
yazenov
Member
I mean, the platform you are begging this game for is dying. It's currently selling less than the Xbox One, which in itself is quite a feat.
Melfice7
Member
It's just the result of dealing with a pathological liar
poppabk
Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
Where does it say that though other than in the thread title?
deriks
4-Time GIF/Meme God
Remake is good, man. Could be way better, but it's good. I agree with the audience thing thou
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
There's obviously business deals and relationships that will have to get worked through on certain games.
He actually didn't say what the topic title is saying. It's yet another case of a sensational GAF headline separate from the article and not an actual quote.
We seem to get a bunch of those when it comes to Xbox related things.
Reported, let's see if it gets edited.
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mansoor1980
Member
that was not my point.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
He's directly addressing the point about some games having deals that would need to be worked on if they ever come to Xbox.
If that's not your point, can you please elaborate what is.
HeWhoWalks
Gold Member
They will not be buying all the publishers, no matter how many times you sing that song to yourself.
mansoor1980
Member
simple.
is he admitting that sony is forcing squareenix for exclusive titles?
or
does he admit that it is upto squareenix only?
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
simple.
is he admitting that sony is forcing squareenix for exclusive titles?
or
does he admit that it is upto squareenix only?
But that's the thing, he never said the second part.
His direct quote couldn't be any more clearer:
There's obviously business deals and relationships that will have to get worked through on certain games.
Some games have business deals that need to be worked out if they ever have a chance of coming to Xbox.
Ar¢tos
Member
What's the excuse for Octopath Traveler not doing amazing on Xbox?
mansoor1980
Member
"So you'll hear more. I'm not going to push them. They’re going to have to find their own rhythm"But that's the thing, he never said the second part.
His direct quote couldn't be any more clearer:
There's obviously business deals and relationships that will have to get worked through on certain games.
Some games have business deals that need to be worked out if they ever have a chance of coming to Xbox.
from the ign interview , i see no mention of sony , looks like it is all upto squareenix
StueyDuck
Member
I mean it's literally in their business strategy...
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
The full in context is kinda important, he isn't talking about FFVII or FF16.
He's talking about what the CEO of Square said about their future commitment to Xbox.
saintjules
Gold Member
Phil full of shit again, not surprising.Microsoft confirms that Sony has blocked these 4 games from hitting Xbox forever
Silent Hill 2, Final Fantasy VII Remake, and more are apparently being held hostage by Sony.
cireza
Member
It is always up to Square-Enix to accept money for exclusivity or not. They currently have exclusivity deals running for Forspoken, FF VII (maybe ?) and XVI, there is no other way but to wait for the end. Then Sony can always offer to prolong the exclusivity for some more money.
Every single time, the decision is up to Square-Enix.
So it will be up to them to decide if they want to renew such deals (if offered), or reject them to be able to release on Xbox as well with current (Forspoken, FF VII, XVI) and future games.
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mansoor1980
Member
and you believe that?The full in context is kinda important, he isn't talking about FFVII or FF16.
He's talking about what the CEO of Square said about their future commitment to Xbox.
But does that mean that PlayStation exclusives Final Fantasy 7 Remake and the recently released Final Fantasy 16 will end up on Xbox? That’s exactly what IGN asked Xbox boss Phil Spencer in an interview at gamescom 2023.
the ign interview has those 2 in the headline , OP is correct
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
and you believe that?
Well .. yes ... because the CEO he's quoting also didn't say anything about VII or XVI.
mansoor1980
Member
OP based the headline on the ign interview , the vid you posted is like a month old about ff14
Mr Moose
Member
He was asked specifically about FFVII and 16...
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Which he addressed thusly:
There's obviously business deals and relationships that will have to get worked through on certain games.
The whole part about 'letting them work on their own rhythm' is from a whole another paragraph where he's specifically talking about what the CEO of Square said and trailed on from there.
I implore you to read the full article, not the out-of-context quote, please.
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Mr Moose
Member
So he said a lot of shit that's unrelated to the question asked? Nice one, Phil.
mansoor1980
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