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[ChorizoPicozo]

Have fun waiting

to be fair. Xbox fans have been wating for years.

 

[6502]

They can put 1000 games on playstation for all I care. I just want them to put 2 or 3 great games on my xbox a year. Sadly they can't :-(

 

[clarky]

And ABK turns over more than all those companies than the top two with the biggest seller of the last 10 years.

I’m all for Microsoft dropping Gamepass on PS5 and bringing 30 more million subscribers to the fold if they decided to start dropping the staples on Sony.

The insanity of the numbers Halo & Forz Multi would do and keep doing with CoDs launch’s being the biggest ever is just to big an opportunity to not enjoy if it was to happen.

what would grow your brand more? Theres more value in all the the others rather than just being locked into a couple of the biggest multiplatform ips. Yes COD will earn them bank but it wont adance the brand, in fact quite the opposite.

Short sighted imo.

 

[Nydius]

I haven't read all 8 pages so sorry if I'm just repeating what anyone else has said but...

They’re planning a handheld but it’s years away.

Exactly like I said months ago: Just like every other endeavor by Microsoft, they will be years late to the party and will be playing an endless game of catch-up. By the time they get whatever handheld they are working on out to market, all of the other Windows PC handhelds and the Steam Deck will have newer, better, iterations. There will be no reason to pick Microsoft's late-to-market handheld over the well established ones available. Same issue they had with Zune, Windows CE PDA's, Surface, Windows Phone...

How can a trillion dollar company be so unable (or unwilling) to learn from their past mistakes?

 

[FinalBossWithTheMostPower]

Amazing they could have bought pretty much all of that list bar the top two for what they paid just for ABK. As if you didn't need anymore info that MS are fucking stupid this is it.

That's because you're thinking like a gamer.

For Microsoft, games are simply a means to an end, and they bought Activision Blizzard mainly to break into mobile gaming.

Activision’s success with games like Candy Crush opens up a massive mobile market, which translates to more users and revenue potential for MS, and richer and happier shareholders.

 

[Taur007]

to be fair. Xbox fans have been wating for years.

Truebut I honestly think there is a red line which stops at the identity games, I really don’t see forza on ps to compete with GT? Gears = hard no, same with fable, halo mayyybe, considering the state it’s in right now, but then why aren’t they rushing to port MCC? Maybe they’re waiting on the supposed H1 remake?

I just see this as more pr fluff as usual

 

[Crayon]

This is killing Phil inside.

Spoiler

 

[T-0800]

Is discussion of this banned at Resetera? I went for a look and couldn't see anything. Funny that.

 

[Oppoi]

I haven't read all 8 pages so sorry if I'm just repeating what anyone else has said but...

Exactly like I said months ago: Just like every other endeavor by Microsoft, they will be years late to the party and will be playing an endless game of catch-up. By the time they get whatever handheld they are working on out to market, all of the other Windows PC handhelds and the Steam Deck will have newer, better, iterations. There will be no reason to pick Microsoft's late-to-market handheld over the well established ones available. Same issue they had with Zune, Windows CE PDA's, Surface, Windows Phone...

How can a trillion dollar company be so unable (or unwilling) to learn from their past mistakes?

To be fair there we did see several "Steam Deck Killers" popping up all promoting Windows and three months of Game Pass. If that was some OEM or not, who knows?

 

[clarky]

That's because you're thinking like a gamer.

For Microsoft, games are simply a means to an end, and they bought Activision Blizzard mainly to break into mobile gaming.

Activision’s success with games like Candy Crush opens up a massive mobile market, which translates to more users and revenue potential for MS, and richer and happier shareholders.

Great. Go Phil what a genius.

 

[Clintizzle]

I feel sick. I want to throw up.

 

[Reaseru]

Soon the green rats will have more and more the company of blue rats.

 

[mayham2199]

And ABK turns over more than all those companies than the top two with the biggest seller of the last 10 years.

I’m all for Microsoft dropping Gamepass on PS5 and bringing 30 more million subscribers to the fold if they decided to start dropping the staples on Sony.

The insanity of the numbers Halo & Forz Multi would do and keep doing with CoDs launch’s being the biggest ever is just to big an opportunity to not enjoy if it was to happen.

Exactly MS needs to focus on brining up the numbers and they need to release their games on PS to get that done. This is a magnificent move by MS and it's the the best decision they've made since I've left the ecosystem.

 

[splattered]

It still won't make a difference. MS will just be a full blown third party publisher again (prior to Xbox), not unlike Activision and Bethesda were prior to the consolidation.

MS is doing this to keep them in the black in the gaming division. They need to do this, not a want to do this.

Sony's strategy is still very much reliant on hardware saturation. They are not going to throw that under the bus just because MS had to shift back to third party.


No matter how much you try and "SonyToo" a Phil Spencer thread. They are not on the same trajectory. Even more so now that Xbox as a console, is all but abandoned.

Abandoned says who? Not Xbox. Not yet. If they come out and say they are abandoning consoles before this next upcoming generation i will humbly eat crow.

Not saying it will never happen but i don't personally think they are there yet.

 

[Crayon]

Is discussion of this banned at Resetera? I went for a look and couldn't see anything. Funny that.

Possibly. If the news is bad enough about ms, they can ban it. I imagine some people don't bother posting stuff at all because of that, though.

 

[Mattyp]

what would grow your brand more? Theres more value in all the the others rather than just being locked into a couple of the biggest multiplatform ips. Yes COD will earn them bank but it wont adance the brand, in fact quite the opposite.

Short sighted imo.

There’s more value in what sense but? that it gets more titles under their brand or makes them more well known with core gamers?

The majority of those brands do not sell the units, they only sell in a lot smaller numbers there’s no real console market growth with that.

The fact SoT hit PS lets us know where this is one day going, and they’ll generate more revenue than Sony in their gaming division when they stop holding back with it and just make it clear cut.

They can still pick up a few smaller brands easily now, obtaining ABK and CoD people will look back on as absolute steal like Minecraft was.

I don’t see them exiting the console race just yet, I doubt the R&D at the surface team costs as much as we think to bring new console generation out. It’s not like it used to be, they all now make a small factor PC and brand it so why not keep doing that selling 30 million and still having 60 million in subs at the same time.

 

[splattered]

But Sony ain't putting the games they own on Xbox. Xbox is putting the games they own on PlayStation. Phil Spencer may not have a red line, but obviously Sony does.

Sony were also NEVER going to put their games on PC, put first party titles in their subscription service at all period, release special sauce SSD games to be compatible with mechanical hard drives. I understand what people don't WANT Sony to do, but that doesn't mean Sony isn't quietly and slowly heading in the opposite direction of what people expect to happen. They are a company like any other and in my opinion they will follow the money even if it's a few steps behind their competitors.

I'm not saying Sony is going to head in this direction just because Microsoft is, i'm saying it's highly likely because they will want to make as much money as possible and Microsoft is now showing that it is a viable strategy that potentially makes a butt ton of money for not a huge amount of effort.

 

[TheGodfather07]

Isn't the next doom already confirmed day 1 on PS5? Indiana Jones is a very short window. So just as we all thought, Microsoft doing it step by step. I expect there will be alot of announcements in 2025.

 

[RoboFu]

These are the only kind of lines Phil has going on.

 

[Raven117]

Can we talk about the clown Jez Cordon getting punked by his overlords yet again.

Literally yesterday he talks up the Xbox handheld and how it could be announced in 2025, only for Phil Spencer himself to go down to Bloomberg HQ almost specifically to make him look like a clown.

It’s easy to make him look like a clown, when he is, in fact, a clown

 

[FunkMiller]

And yet, the Xbox fans will still say 'Good Guy Phil'. Seems like some people can't get enough of being taken in by someone who makes a lot of promises, and then does the exact opposite. he does it again and again, and still they eat the shit they're being served. Sunk cost fallacy in action.

 

[Topher]

Sony were also NEVER going to put their games on PC, put first party titles in their subscription service at all period, release special sauce SSD games to be compatible with mechanical hard drives. I understand what people don't WANT Sony to do, but that doesn't mean Sony isn't quietly and slowly heading in the opposite direction of what people expect to happen. They are a company like any other and in my opinion they will follow the money even if it's a few steps behind their competitors.

I'm not saying Sony is going to head in this direction just because Microsoft is, i'm saying it's highly likely because they will want to make as much money as possible and Microsoft is now showing that it is a viable strategy that potentially makes a butt ton of money for not a huge amount of effort.

Special sauce SSD games? Dude.....put away the warrior cheat sheet. There is reaching and then there is whatever you are doing here. You gotta ask yourself? Why in the world would Sony port their games to Xbox? For a tad bit more revenue? They risk helping to revitalize their competition's console and lose market share in the process. Not going to happen. The only reason Sony is free to publish games on Steam is because they have no fear of losing to Xbox in consoles. If the two were still locked in battle like they were in the 360/PS3 years then the entire landscape would be different right now. But that's not where we are. Xbox is weak and PlayStation is strong. Sony can publish on PC to pad its revenue while Xbox publishes on PC to survive. That is not warring. That is just the stark reality and we are reminded of this every quarter where Xbox consoles are consistently dropping double digits.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

to be fair. Xbox fans have been wating for years.

Xbox fans waiting for the day their great monopolist corporation finally monopolizes gaming

 

[Kumomeme]

just same thing with uncle phil

 

[YeulEmeralda]

They can put 1000 games on playstation for all I care. I just want them to put 2 or 3 great games on my xbox a year. Sadly they can't :-(

That's the real tragedy here. Not the console warring.

So much money and where are the games that drive this industry to new heights? When was the last time we saw something earth shattering from MS?

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

This looks like an AI render of how Phil would look if he had been missing for 20 years of how I remember him looking

 

[ergem]

I think MS strategy would be to become a large profitable 3rd party publisher in the old x86 architecture while slowly building an ARM handheld device for the purpose of helping ARM windows grow bigger.

Basically games made for the ARM handheld will be interplayable in ARM windows similar to how PC and Steamdeck works.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

I think MS strategy would be to become a large profitable 3rd party publisher in the old x86 architecture while slowly building an ARM handheld device for the purpose of helping ARM windows grow bigger.

Basically games made for the ARM handheld will be interplayable in ARM windows similar to how PC and Steamdeck works.

i dunno where this ARM thing is coming from (those leak documents, MS selling arm based surface laptops? ).

Just like with DirectX, or UWP MS's worst enemy is themselves.

 

[pasterpl]

I am interested in the new hardware that he is referencing. So gaf was wrong again.

 

[pasterpl]

i dunno where this ARM thing is coming from (those leak documents, MS selling arm based surface laptops? ).

Yes, surface pro x and copilot devices are all Qualcomm based, as well with oem partners copilot laptops.

In addition in August they have launched their own upscalling tech

Automatic Super Resolution: The First OS-Integrated AI-Based Super Resolution for Gaming - DirectX Developer Blog

Auto SR automatically enhances select existing games allowing players to effortlessly enjoy stunning visuals and fast framerates on CoPilot+ PCs equipped with a Snapdragon® X processor. DirectSR focuses on next generation games and developers, Together, they create a comprehensive SR solution...

devblogs.microsoft.com

And also (so far exclusive to Qualcomm elite x https://www.eurogamer.net/digitalfo...solution-tested-a-new-ai-upscaler-has-arrived which is very interesting as it doesn’t require dev to do anything, everything is handled on the OS side.

 

[skit_data]

That Phil quote on the limited edition 20th anniversary controller feels more and more like a insanely well crafted cruel joke as time goes by.

 

[nowhat]

I am interested in the new hardware that he is referencing. So gaf was wrong again.

Hardware that has not been officially announced? Well I guess you can be interested in that. Just that, MS hardware ventures don't necessarily last that long. See: Zune/Windows Phone.

 

[mckmas8808]

The hardcore fanboys are starting to wake up, and they making cringe videos

OH WOW! This is pretty well done.

 

[Cyberpunkd]

I am interested in the new hardware that he is referencing. So gaf was wrong again.

What would be the differentiator? Steam Deck does that through tight integration with Steam. Meanwhile Microsoft doesn’t have a dedicated Windows version for tablets and other devices. ROG Ally and other Windows-based handhelds are running exactly the same version of Windows as PCs, which is just stupid.

 

[Kerotan]

Honest to God they need to stop MS acquiring gaming publishers and Devs even if they're going 3rd party. The consolidation isn't good for the industry.

 

[DenchDeckard]

The hardcore fanboys are starting to wake up, and they making cringe videos

This video is terrifying. Good job on the exposing of bullshit but man. This shit is really deep for some people, right.

 

[Radical_3d]

February:

 

[CityHunter1981]

He gets more and more open in every interview. Let’s wait 3 interviews until he confirms immediate plans that all Xbox games come to other platforms.

 

[T-0800]

He doesn't look well.

 

[kyussman]

"I feel pretty good about where this industry is going".............gonna have to disagree strongly here,lol.

 

[GHG]

February:

That difference is more than just weight loss.

Differences aside, I hope he's in good health.

 

[Astray]

One thing that we're not talking about here is the delay of the mobile store. It was slated to come out in July, and now they are essentially going back to the drawing board with it too.

This is what S SneakersSO had to say about it:

This is gonna be an incredible trainwreck. They are spending so much on this too.

 

[Goalus]

Take Two it is.

 

[evolve]

One thing that we're not talking about here is the delay of the mobile store. It was slated to come out in July, and now they are essentially going back to the drawing board with it too.

This is what S SneakersSO had to say about it:

Is he still active? I wonder if he knows what and then the next ports are going to be.

 

[DenchDeckard]

That difference is more than just weight loss.

Differences aside, I hope he's in good health.

Yeah, he doesnt look well. You can see its very bright lighting in that room but damn.

Might be better if the guy just steps down into another role.

 

[akaFullmetal]

Xbox going 3rd party, the writing was on the wall for awhile, some just didn't want to here it.

 

[Astray]

Is he still active? I wonder if he knows what and then the next ports are going to be.

No idea, it's been a while since he posted.

Hope he's doing good.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

 

[DenchDeckard]

It will be nice for Phil, (not going to happen) to just be open and let their Playstation customers know an ETA on when they can expect games. At least Sony was saying "It will be a year"

But Phil will always ride that line of "game by game basis" which is fine but some kind of guidance would be good.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

It will be nice for Phil, (not going to happen) to just be open and let their Playstation customers know an ETA on when they can expect games. At least Sony was saying "It will be a year"

But Phil will always ride that line of "game by game basis" which is fine but some kind of guidance would be good.

I think the marching orders went out yesterday to start prepping the troops for everything to come