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CHEEZMO
Obsidian fan
fuck
Goodacre0081
Member
Never looked like a lake to me. Even at first glance it was obvious that this is a side-pic of a fallen tree.
oktarb
Member
The short answer is 'No."
For some reason or another am currently studying some fundamental problems of
aerodynamics, i.e. the pressure distribution around airfoils, and have also
looked at some former approaches leading 200 to 400 hundred years back into
the past. It's remarkable that flying of heavier-than-air machines were
considered impossible even as late as the final decade of the 19th century
despite the birds were up in the sky since ages. During my course of tracing
the fundamentals of aerodynamics back through the centuries I came about a lot
of people who had a major influence on the subject. And for sure I studied all
the works of the Wright Brothers esp. from whom they drew their knowledge of
and how they improved on it esp. how they corrected Lilienthal's lift and drag
coefficients and the Smeaton pressure coefficient to obtain better results
from the lift and drag equations. Quite interesting, the Wright Brothers
didn't invented anything new to make *flying* possible yet they invented very
important things nevertheless. Most of the things, i.e. the wind tunnel, or
the Pratt truss structure for building stable constructions, and suitable
airfoil shaps etc. were all already known. Yet they treated the problem of
flying differently than any other did ever before. They were the first using
an approach which is standard in engineering practice today, a so-called full-
system approach in which every detail is as important as any other, something
at which others like Caley, Maxim, Lilienthal, Chanute, Langley etc. have
failed at despite some of them had much more support and were better known in
the field. The Wrights didn't just wanted to get into the air making some
leaps, no, they wanted to build a full-scale heavier-than-air flying machine
and had as such to face issues others didn't because of the scale. One of
those issues was control. They treated this problem at a fundamental level and
indeed invented something new within this regard (yet simple flying would be
possible without it), i.e. adverse yaw control by turning the vertical rudder
when banking the aircraft. Another thing was the wing-warping system. The
Wright Brothers were the first being able to control an aircraft in all three
axis. The ingenuity they put into every detail in equal proportion is what
gave mankind their wings! And this is quite a remarkable feat given that the
idea of flying crosses millennia and was also considered by some of the
brightest minds in history like for example by Leonardo da Vinci and Sir Isaac
Newton.
December 17, 1903 : First self-sustained flight of a heavier-than-air machine,
the Flyer, with Orville at the controls and Wilbur trailing right next to it.
Basically, Wilbur and Orville invented the aircraft as we know it. And this
was just about 100 years ago. And it has changed out world forever. Looking
at this picture and seeing the Flyer and its intrinsic ingenuity impresses me
each time anew!
aerodynamics, i.e. the pressure distribution around airfoils, and have also
looked at some former approaches leading 200 to 400 hundred years back into
the past. It's remarkable that flying of heavier-than-air machines were
considered impossible even as late as the final decade of the 19th century
despite the birds were up in the sky since ages. During my course of tracing
the fundamentals of aerodynamics back through the centuries I came about a lot
of people who had a major influence on the subject. And for sure I studied all
the works of the Wright Brothers esp. from whom they drew their knowledge of
and how they improved on it esp. how they corrected Lilienthal's lift and drag
coefficients and the Smeaton pressure coefficient to obtain better results
from the lift and drag equations. Quite interesting, the Wright Brothers
didn't invented anything new to make *flying* possible yet they invented very
important things nevertheless. Most of the things, i.e. the wind tunnel, or
the Pratt truss structure for building stable constructions, and suitable
airfoil shaps etc. were all already known. Yet they treated the problem of
flying differently than any other did ever before. They were the first using
an approach which is standard in engineering practice today, a so-called full-
system approach in which every detail is as important as any other, something
at which others like Caley, Maxim, Lilienthal, Chanute, Langley etc. have
failed at despite some of them had much more support and were better known in
the field. The Wrights didn't just wanted to get into the air making some
leaps, no, they wanted to build a full-scale heavier-than-air flying machine
and had as such to face issues others didn't because of the scale. One of
those issues was control. They treated this problem at a fundamental level and
indeed invented something new within this regard (yet simple flying would be
possible without it), i.e. adverse yaw control by turning the vertical rudder
when banking the aircraft. Another thing was the wing-warping system. The
Wright Brothers were the first being able to control an aircraft in all three
axis. The ingenuity they put into every detail in equal proportion is what
gave mankind their wings! And this is quite a remarkable feat given that the
idea of flying crosses millennia and was also considered by some of the
brightest minds in history like for example by Leonardo da Vinci and Sir Isaac
Newton.
December 17, 1903 : First self-sustained flight of a heavier-than-air machine,
the Flyer, with Orville at the controls and Wilbur trailing right next to it.
Basically, Wilbur and Orville invented the aircraft as we know it. And this
was just about 100 years ago. And it has changed out world forever. Looking
at this picture and seeing the Flyer and its intrinsic ingenuity impresses me
each time anew!
sixteen-bit
Member
Facism
Member
I've met few people who've been to Istanbul and haven't felt like it was something of a second home. Like all souls have been there once before.
Wanted to share my wife's pics from our recent trip there, because that place is my heart.
http://nomadleftbehind.wordpress.com/2013/08/01/day-4-the-day-of-the-tourist-in-photos/
I just read your blog about this. I went to Istanbul for a weekend when i was 14, during a 6 week period visiting family in the Turkish Republic of North Cyprus.
Thinking about going back next month for a few weeks. Actually feels like i'm planning on going home.
This thread is awesome. I am now lusting for a hot glass of Ada çayı and some Baklava (or other Turkish sweets) while sitting in the sweltering heat.
Although Baklavah is my preferred stomach cork, the existence of chewable icecream was brought to my attention while looking for images. Chewable. Icecream. WANT. NEED. AAAAH.
(again, source)
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It's even a tiny bit funny if you look at the popularity of the different Lokum.(source, not me)
Although Baklavah is my preferred stomach cork, the existence of chewable icecream was brought to my attention while looking for images. Chewable. Icecream. WANT. NEED. AAAAH.
Ohgod. If you need me, I'll be browsing Onkels foody thread in a desperate attempt to fill the hole in my soul
and stomach
Randy Monk
Member
Got Moloko Plus?
AlteredBeast
Fork 'em, Sparky!
Seriously...could mistake him for a mob boss there.
Pandahammer
Neo Member
My fave so far
Pandahammer
Neo Member
There's a science bar in Australia that gives you test tubes when you order a drinkThat sure is a fitting name for the occurrence.
"The Clinic Bar in Singapore boasts hospital beds and wheelchairs for thirsty patrons. Drinks are served through test tubes."
Seems like my kind of place. =)
I'm so going to Singapore!!
Think I mentioned earlier in the thread when this was posted that I didn't see this place any more when I was in Singapore in May.
Cow Mengde
Banned
How did I miss this awesome thread?
Goodacre0081
Member
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TOM f'N CRUISE
Member
The Last Human by Käri Christensen
awesome
December 17, 1903 : First self-sustained flight of a heavier-than-air machine,
the Flyer, with Orville at the controls and Wilbur trailing right next to it.
Isn't it argued that it was actually Alberto Santos-Dumont who was the first to fly an airplane?
From the perspective of the French, maybe.
Well, the Wright kept their invention under wraps post 1905 till 1908, since
they tried negotiating with different countries and their respective
departments, which proved rather difficult while being the first, and as
such they didn't made any further public flights to prove their 25 miles
flight of 1905 again, which was done on the Huffman Prairie in 1905 witnessed
by some spectators. The Wrights feared being copied before they didn't landed
a decent contract. During this time the French didn't believe the Wright's
claim about the performance of their craft and marked them as lairs on the
quiet.
In 1906 Santos-Dumont flew his 14-bis flying machine, which was sort of a copy
of the 1902 glider of the Wrights based on public information available due
to the Wrights themselves, via photos and a description, and due to Octave
Chanute who witnessed the Wrights during their 1902 glider experiments. In
Oktober 1906 Santos-Dumont flew about 50 Meter and has won the Coupe
d'Aviation Ernest Archdeacon for the first public flight of over 25 Meter. In
November of 1906 Santos-Dumont flew about 222 Meter, about 30 Meter short of
what the Wrights did in 1903, winning another huge price. All of France was
impressed by the result. Santos-Dumont was heralded as the The Triumphant One.
The press marked this flight as the most positive advance in aeronautics.
Since the Wrights haven't shown their 1905 Flyer in public during this time,
many of the French had no idea about what the Flyer was capable of, yet have
ever seen a heavier-than-air machine flying.
Hence, many of the French thought that Santos-Dumont was perhaps the first
one. People could witness his flights since he took also part in many
competitions the Wrights didn't due to known reasons, which gave Santos-Dumont
some fame, yet he drew from the Wrights like all initial French aviators
during this period.
But within the aviation community there was no question about who made the
first powered flight. Even the French aviators knew the Wrights did before
anyone else in 1903. They just played with the Wrights during 1905 to 1908
in downplaying the performance of their 1905 Flyer, since they were in need
for money from their own government, which was hard to get during this time.
And there was a certain fame to make, since the French were still in their
infancy during this period and the Wrights refused to show their 1905 Flyer to
the public.
However, in 1908 the Wrights showed the French. They demonstrated the
performance of their Flyer in France. Many of the important French aviators
witnessed this flight. And they knew what they saw. Their were all stunned.
Wilbur flew the aircraft in a way no French was able to do. He was able to
run curves, banking deep, stabilize etc. at will and to a degree the French
aviators had only dreamed of.
One could say that Santos-Dumont flew the first aircraft in public in 1906
for about 50 Meter while being witnessed by a huge audience. Yet the Wrights
flew about 40 Kilometer in 1905 witnessed by only a bunch of people at the
Huffman Prairie near Dayton, Ohio. This was their last major flight till
1908. The brothers knew they had solved the problem of ages and now wanted to
earn the fruits of their invention, an invention build in an environment of
people saying that flying of a self-sustained heavier-than-air machine is
impossible.
Jedeye Sniv
Banned
^^
Dude, you don't need to hit return on each line of a reply. It'll do that automagically for you.
Dude, you don't need to hit return on each line of a reply. It'll do that automagically for you.
BaronLundi
Member
From the perspective of the French, maybe.
Well actually that would be Clément Ader in 1890 ;p
Yeah, Ader.... Here is why;
After Santos-Dumont lost in court being recognized as the first to fly, the
"French" (those who were afraid of the Americans) reached further back into
history to propose Ader being the first to fly. Aders' Avion III never flew,
it did some hops recognized by a commission on the site in 1897. Chanute
bought the remains of the Avion III (a bat-like Lilienthal glider) and wanted
to rebuild it and encourage the Wrights to test it in 1903 on his expense. The
Wrights declined, since they already knew they were way beyond anyone else.
Even a second attempt for testing the Chanute-Herring two-surface glider were
declined by the Wrights. Chanute somehow thought the Wright Flyer (of 1903)
won't be as good as others, yet the Wrights knew better, since they had
knowledge no one had in the world. Chanute did also some scary calculations
telling the Wrights the Flyer won't fly. He was wrong. Chanute was a lil pissed
and left the Wrights behind at Kitty Hawk. A few days later the Wrights made
all the record flights we know today. Chanute missed that unique event.
The Avion III was inefficient on so many accounts, yet this doesn't say Ader
was a fool, nope, he was a pioneer like many others and deserves its place in
history. However, Ader, contrary to the Wrights, got some huge amount of money
to build and test his Avion. Yet he didn't succeed. The remains of the Avion
III were carried to a museum in France. While the claim was brought up
against the Wrights being the first to fly with respect to Ader, they went
to the museum inspecting the Avion. Willbur wrote; "The whole machine is
ridiculous ... I am intending to offer in our names a price of 450.000 frs.,
to be known as the 'Prix de Satory', to commemorate the experiment of 9th
October, 1897, the prize to be given to the person who makes the longest
flight exceeding one hundred meters with a machine having its wings, screws,
and actuating arrangements exact duplicates of those of the Avion ...".
Ref: "The Papers of Wilbur & Orville Wright", Marvin W. McFarland.
Also the Americans, i.e. the Smithsonian Institute, made a wired contribution
within this regard as well. They attributed the first self-sustained aircraft
to Langley and held that position for years. Langley was a high-roller at the
Smithsonian Institute. Langley's Great Aerodrome felt into the water like a
stone in 1903. The Smithsonian Institute argued it could have been the first,
it was just bad luck for Langley. It wasn't. Years later the Smithsonian
Institute withdrew from their claim. In return they got the 1903 Flyer back
from England.
Well, if one ask the Germans who was the first to fly, the would say Gustave
Whitehead (dt. Weißkopf).
The problem with all those who claimed to have been flown before the Wrights
never could reproduce it for some reasons. After the Wrights made well
documented success, no one till 1909 has done something remotely similar as
to what the Wrights did. Langley, Ader, Whitehead could had reproduced their
glider and prove the world. No one did. Yet Langley's Great Aerodrome was sort
of replicated years later by some other to prove the assertion. But Langley's
Aerodrome needed many modification to make it fly, modification being drawn
from the Wright Brothers after their many secrets / inventions were known.
Hence, it wasn't a pure replica. And no one could argue against it - the
reason the Smithsonian Institute dropped their claim.
However, the cool thing about the Avion III was; it gave birth to Voisin's
interest in flying machines. Voisin was on an exhibition while entering the
"cockpit" of the Avion. From there on, he knew what he wanted to do for the
rest of his life.
TOM f'N CRUISE
Member
fuck
Yeah that thing looks like it's going 85mph.
