Damn, it's been less than an hour, and we only need 47 more backers to unlock Level 11.
Is that the titan dick level?
Damn, it's been less than an hour, and we only need 47 more backers to unlock Level 11.
Thats why "From the Creators of" exists.The problem with comparing PE to NWN or BG in terms of potential sales is that NWN and BG are based in properties that are massively popular. Obsidian is a well respected developer, but most of the consumer base doesn't make purchase decisions on the name of the developer.
And 30 backers to crotch level.Less than $10K to go, just through KS alone.
Thanks!
Is that the titan dick level?
Thats why "From the Creators of" exists.
Eh, if it's got this kind of backing I'm optimistic this will do fine for Obsidian, it's got more backers than most, say, jRPGs have sales period. I'd be more worried that the industry ignores its success or that it's not quite up to the level to really elevate Obsidian to a new level as an independent developer.From the Creators of Fallout 1 and 2 and a bunch of other games that didn't sell well.
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I hope this game is amazingly successful, but I'm so pessimistic about the gamers and the games they buy these days.
Yup. Forums like GAF might give the impression that everyone who's into these games will pay up front, but in the real world I think there are a lot of people who will check Steam in a couple of years, see the screenshot at the top of the thread, and be like "whoa, that looks awesome!" There are an awful lot of people who love big Western RPGs, as I think Skyrim demonstrated pretty effectively (and yes, Skyrim was an RPG).
The problem with comparing PE to NWN or BG in terms of potential sales is that NWN and BG are based in properties that are massively popular. Obsidian is a well respected developer, but most of the consumer base doesn't make purchase decisions on the name of the developer.
Yeah, that's the other thing, investing now is somewhat disconcerting, you're throwing money in for something you won't see for years at best, at worst you never see it at all. It's nice to see the game there in front of you and know what people think. But then that's part of why I'm more willing to jump in this, because Obsidian's been active in recent years making games I've enjoyed.There are plenty of Kickstarter games I'm following that I was never going to kick money in myself for. If they turn out well once they're released I'll buy them. For example, I wouldn't blindly trust Brian Fargo with my money, but I hope Wasteland 2 is awesome. I didn't have any spare money to invest in either Double Fine's Adventure project, or FTL during their campaigns, but FTL I've bought and I'm looking forward to seeing what Double Fine comes up with. I don't have the disposable income to spend betting a game 2 years from now will be good. Backing a Kickstarter for me requires a special circumstance.
Star Wars and Star Trek are really nerdy things that are massively popular. And D&D IS the most popular pen & paper game.Massively popular? Is that really true? Wasn't D&D always just some kind of nerd thing? Pretty sure that the people who've been playing D&D in the past, are into this kind of stuff enough to know what's behind Project Eternity.
Actually, I'd go as far as to say that nowadays more people know the Forgotten Realms through Baldur's Gate, the game, than through all of the D&D pen and paper stuff. I don't think that the brand is really worth all that much...
Massively popular? Is that really true? Wasn't D&D always just some kind of nerd thing? Pretty sure that the people who've been playing D&D in the past, are into this kind of stuff enough to know what's behind Project Eternity.
Actually, I'd go as far as to say that nowadays more people know the Forgotten Realms through Baldur's Gate, the game, than through all of the D&D pen and paper stuff. I don't think that the brand is really worth all that much...
Submerged dick level is gonna be epic.
3 grand short of 3.5M as of this writing, and that's not even including Paypal. Mindblowing.
Nobody wants to give VTM a proper game anymore.
Mega-dungeon Floor 11 is a go!
VTM doesn't exist anymore. It was part of the Old World of Darkness, which got nerfed. The New World of Darkness removed a lot of the stuff people loved about VTM.
Mega-dungeon Floor 11 is a go!
but we can't fund some 10 million dollar+ game with current graphics.
nWoD was just a much needed refresh for the convoluted storylines VtM and oWoD in general has become. If you played Vampire in the early 00's, you pretty much had no idea what's going on and the internet was full of conflicting lores. nWoD had a different tone and focused much more on the horror aspects, and it's far from bad or hated. oWoD still exists though, White Wolf just finished a couple of Kickstarters for VtM source books and re-releases of various oWoD games. So VtM still exists, it's just that now there's also Vampire the Requiem alongside it.
White Wolf has become very Kickstarter-focused in general, they're going to Kickstart the production of the third edition of Exalted. This is pretty interesting, because it's not a source book or an add-on, but a core product. Kickstarter has been great for more than just Video Games.
The way I see it unlocking new levels in the mega dungeon is just a promotional stunt, they might as well have 20 levels planned for it and will use various marketing ploys ('likes' on facebooks etc.) to reveal the next level.We're definitely getting 12 levels of the dungeon at least. There should be almost 2.5k backers on Paypal by now.
We're definitely getting 12 levels of the dungeon at least. There should be almost 2.5k backers on Paypal by now.
nWoD was just a much needed refresh for the convoluted storylines VtM and oWoD in general has become. If you played Vampire in the early 00's, you pretty much had no idea what's going on and the internet was full of conflicting lores. nWoD had a different tone and focused much more on the horror aspects, and it's far from bad or hated. oWoD still exists though, White Wolf just finished a couple of Kickstarters for VtM source books and re-releases of various oWoD games. So VtM still exists, it's just that now there's also Vampire the Requiem alongside it.
White Wolf has become very Kickstarter-focused in general, they're going to Kickstart the production of the third edition of Exalted. This is pretty interesting, because it's not a source book or an add-on, but a core product. Kickstarter has been great for more than just Video Games.
The oWoD lore was confusing? The chronology was a bit messed up, but the world was clearly set up for me. It's been years since I played any table-top V:tM but I don't remember ever being confused about the lore.
Those clan novels that they put out made a real mess out of things though.
Ah, it was my understanding that Vampire the Requiem wiped VtM away. I didn't know about White Wolf's Kickstarters.
By the time we reached Gehanna, the thing was incomprehensible. The base lore was still amazing and easy to follow, it was mostly the optional source books and meta-plot that were problematic.
I used to be a big Vampire player back in the day, and while I too had a time of hostility towards nWoD I've learned the appreciate it.
Yes.Is it possible to do the extra purchase of the addon if you pay with paypal?
The way I see it unlocking new levels in the mega dungeon is just a promotional stunt, they might as well have 20 levels planned for it and will use various marketing ploys ('likes' on facebooks etc.) to reveal the next level.
Yeah I agree. But they probably don't want to do extra levels if they don't have to, so they're likely just waiting to see how the arbitrary "goals" for the dungeon pan out. We're getting at least 12 though.
First time giving money for a Kickstarter. Time to wait for April lol
Plus if each level is full of encounters and traps and puzzles, you're probably looking at around 45 mins of gameplay per level, so at 12 levels, this is a decent-sized 9 hour dungeon (or longer)!
BTW I thought they'd post an update immediately after the last round of milestones ($3.5M and 67.5k backers) was achieved? Don't they want to make the most of the final 10 hours?
BTW I thought they'd post an update immediately after the last round of milestones ($3.5M and 67.5k backers) was achieved? Don't they want to make the most of the final 10 hours?
They are panicking. No more promises to make and they just realized they have to deliver two big cities.
BTW I thought they'd post an update immediately after the last round of milestones ($3.5M and 67.5k backers) was achieved? Don't they want to make the most of the final 10 hours?