So im assuming they already got a large chunk of money to start off with. How much do these kinds of games usually cost do develop? If we take neverwinter nights 2, dragon age, etc, whats the development cost for those games? Im trying to figure out if this is more on the "indie" ambition level or something more akin to a full fledged rpg like those i previously mentioned. Also, will they publish the game themselves or try finding someone?
-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
Pillars of Eternity by Obsidian Entertainment (Kickstarter) [Up: Teaser]
- Thread starter duckroll
- Start date
disappeared
Banned
How about a GAF tavern?
People could pay a mod via paypal and he'd pledge for all of us. I'm sure we can get 5k in GAF alone.
That's an awesome idea.
The Horny Duck has a nice ring to it.
The_Player
Member
He's not lead designer at Wasteland 2, he just part of the time working on the game, while this project is, probably, his own child he won't share with anyone.
"It wasn't until the late 90s if I'm not mistaken that PC RPGs really got to the same level as their console equivalents."
Oh, Kotaku.
Oh believe me I realize. I would not have backed if there were a single mention of a console port.
He's already sharing this project with a bunch of people at Obsidian!
Delusibeta
Banned
So, they're looking at about $196,000 in about 100 minutes. Freaking. Insane.
This is from all the people that were waiting for the countdown to end, it's going to slow down pretty quickly. I'm sure they'll still reach their goal (and way beyond) in a couple of days
It could also be that publishers realise those untapped markets but are unable to convince shareholders.
Can't wait to see what they do with complete creative freedom. I've no problems pre-purchasing whatever they decide to create if it helps it get made.
Will this game have the highest expectations of any game ever? It's hyperbolic but the amount of pressure for this project will exceed all the other Kickstarter's combined.
Will this game have the highest expectations of any game ever? It's hyperbolic but the amount of pressure for this project will exceed all the other Kickstarter's combined.
Jibbajabbawockky
Member
Not even 2 hours in and they're at $200,000.
Dog Problems
Banned
They are going to blow past that goal, and rightfully so.
SquiddyCracker
Banned
But at this point and at this low level budget it may simply be better to do without a publisher at all if you can fund your game through something like Kickstarter.
Complete control over your own game must be the optimal postion for any developer.
Among RPGs, probably. But I think this project includes many concepts across the years that failed to make it into any one game, so it's not like they're unprepared for this.
I agree that now that this exists, it makes the most sense.
My question mostly reflects the pre-Kickstarter era where I have to imagine Obsidian was shopping around projects like this.
Metroidvania
People called Romanes they go the house?
210k in under 2 hours. 0_o
I'm sure it'll drop off after the first few days, but holy shit.
If Obsidian can keep content updates (i.e. concept art, etc.) rolling in this first week or so, they've got some stretch goals to put up quick.
I'm sure it'll drop off after the first few days, but holy shit.
If Obsidian can keep content updates (i.e. concept art, etc.) rolling in this first week or so, they've got some stretch goals to put up quick.
Palette Swap
Member
I thinks most publishers aren't interested in niches and no matter how well you pitched it to them, they'd refuse to see it.
One of the worst enemies of a marketer are irrational beliefs and this industry really looks fueled on these.
(I'm one too
)I'm so fucking in.How about a GAF tavern?
People could pay a mod via paypal and he'd pledge for all of us. I'm sure we can get 5k in GAF alone.
Given that there are 32 days left by my calculation they should reach a total of $76,800,000.
Stretch goal: Reach $50,000,000 and Avellone gets a gold plated yacht.
Feargus has said in Gamebanshee interview that publishers need to release hundreds of games like that to stay profitable with their current structure (i.e. tons of people). So this is why they wouldn't invest in it.
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
Then they're not doing their job correctly.
But, hey. This meteoric support should do plenty to convince somebody, somewhere that the RPG market isn't a myth from 2001.
It already did. The Wasteland 2 Kickstarter is probably the reason why this Kickstarter has a goal of 1.1 million instead of something smaller in scope.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
How about a GAF tavern?
People could pay a mod via paypal and he'd pledge for all of us. I'm sure we can get 5k in GAF alone.
I would SOOO love to do this. If everyone is in it, I would gladly set it up, and even pay up a decent sum as a startup! It's limited to 3 so we should do it quick if desired.
D
Deleted member 47027
Unconfirmed Member
Obsidian is worth so much more to me, but hell, let's just ROLL. This pleaseth me. Bring on Alpha Protocol 2 next!
The Dutch Slayer
Member
LOLOLOL I did the $20 when it was around 45.000 now its 230.000
INSANE! :O
INSANE! :O
I WOULD LOVE to do that but how do we set that up?
Kickstarters are an absolutely amazing way to get mid tier games funded. It doesn't really affect the publishers gunning for CoD or even Skyrim numbers
I imagine is that one reason why they had issues previously is that they needed projects to support their entire studio, and the best bet for them would be to use their top talent to secure the biggest projects which can pay for the employment of more people in the studio. So they were looking at projects which would far eclipse something like this in budget, which would make the projects riskier for the publishers they approach as well.
See: Cancelled next-gen game.
after all the bad times its time for Obsidian to smile...
they deserve it.
the community will try to take care of them it seems from the already gathered amount....
This should have happened when Dragon Age: Origins sold like gangbusters by being an old-school RPG that even Bioware had sort of given up on making succesful.
Publishers. Publishers never change.
jim-jam bongs
Member
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
I'm sure. Perhaps I'm dreaming big, but it seems that if a project with little to no fanfare can get many people pledging money site unseen, that a publisher would at least be willing to take a chance at a new AAA CRPG. The pieces are there. The market, the storefront, the overt demand. Games have come to fruition with a lot less.
That too.
Vulcano's assistant
Banned
Dance Inferno
Unconfirmed Member
Arghhh. I have never Kickstarted anything in my life but I'm tempted to start with this project. Decisions, decisions.
Also it's barely been a day and they're already a fifth of the way to their goal. Holy smokes.
Also it's barely been a day and they're already a fifth of the way to their goal. Holy smokes.
Forsaken82
Member
Anyone know who the score is composed by? Mark Morgan will pretty much give me reason to make my first pledge on kickstarter...
D
Deleted member 102362
Unconfirmed Member
In for $20. This will EASILY hit its goal and whatever stretch goals are set.
Eh, that's debatable, that DA:O sold purely because it has old-school vibes.
I still think a game like this project is niche in the big picture.