Level 3 isn't too bad, and a cutscene skip would be welcome. I need to start over again after Steam ate my saves for some reason, but I'm debating if I want to go back to being a Wizard or try some off the wall builds to see how I'd manage, like a ranged guns only Paladin.
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Level 3 isn't too bad, and a cutscene skip would be welcome. I need to start over again after Steam ate my saves for some reason, but I'm debating if I want to go back to being a Wizard or try some off the wall builds to see how I'd manage, like a ranged guns only Paladin.
Chance Hale
Member
Some of the reactivity is a bit disappointing. (Spoiler for side-quests in Act 2)
I finished the quest for House D called Changing of the Guard and I had experience with them from another side quest where I killed one of their members in another town. The latter was never mentioned which was questionable but a few missions later I did another side quest that involved their branch. When a woman mentioned she was from their family the only dialogue options available were questions like "Who is House D" or "Why should I care about House D?"
Yeah, some of the reactivity is odd. That, plus how almost no one reacts to Godlikes appearance.
But then you get things like (Opening Tutorial Spoiler + Early Act 1 Quest Spoiler)
Where if you slaughter the entire caravan you get a nice scripted scene where your character is admiring the slaughter before running into the ruins then you're able to tell the guide's sister you slaughtered her.
I'm not highlighting those spoilers, but I do think it's a little funny with a ranger how everyone's concerned about random wolves, but no one will react if you (pet spoiler)
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send a freaking BEAR roaming around their camp. Too bad you can't tell the bear to attack NPCs until combat is actually triggered.
An Orge reacted, but it was only referenced twice.
Also killed the bloody
Drake
Some are very disturbing and
triggering
Vulture
My favourites so far is the Orlan Lady in the Dozen, and Mort du Jest in the Brackenbury Inn.
Chance Hale
Member
Some of the soul backgrounds are well-written but they take me out of the game. For example, given I know what the Vulture is doing shouldn't I be able to then react? Instead I'm letting a
roam around.
Edit: Although upon thinking about it I guess they're supposed to be
?
deranged serial killer
Edit: Although upon thinking about it I guess they're supposed to be
past lives
I thought that soul backgrounds were peeks into what had happened in the
past, not necessarily the present?
Edit: Yeah, wasn't quick enough to get your edit.
Chance Hale
Member
That's what I thought but the story where
the woman cheats on her husband with the blue moon godlike is connected to a blue moon godlike.
Yeah, it's so hard to tell because of situations like that.
water_wendi
Water is not wet!
ive run across references specific to my Death Godlike a few times. i guess one thing to consider is the setting. Godlikes in Pillars do not seem to be as rare as say Planetouched/Genasi in the Forgotten Realms or D&D in general. Like the whole reincarnation thing they are just a fact of life in the setting.
And i think the souls might be both past and present. Its hard to tell because dialogue is almost never used with them (there is only one that i can recall where dialogue is present and when it happened i immediately noticed it).
I didn't get too far with my Death Godlike, so I probably haven't seen any of the others. I just thought the most telling bit was when you get that one conversation with
Eder after sleeping, and he mentions something about seeing the bags under your character's eyes due to lack of sleep.
I think having some slightly different text appear for Death Godlike's might have worked a bit better.
Nimmermehr
Neo Member
Can someone tell me how to end Act I?
I killed Raedric, built a lot of stuff at the stronghold and cleared 4 floors of the dungeon below.. Did i miss something? The bridge to the big city is still broken.
wolfhowwl
Banned
One of the stronghold upgrades will clear a path out of the stronghold south. The game should've heavily hinted at you to build it.
water_wendi
Water is not wet!
i agree. id like to see everything referenced more often (race, class, culture, background) but there is only so much time for developers to do stuff. Branching dialogues gets complex fast. Its the reason why most rpgs dont even attempt it. Might be something a community flavor mod might do later like the NPC mod for BG1.
Finally noticed party banter while running around Defiance Bay. i had thought there was none in the game so that was a pleasant surprise.
Yeah, I had the benefit of only playing the BG games for the first time last year so I kinda lucked out in that aspect.
As far as party banter, in 20+ hours I think I've only gotten 5 or so banters.
RPing a Paladin is more fun in PoE because you aren't tied to alignments, just base yourself on what your order is about. Goldpact is hilarious because I basically demand people to pay me to make their problems go away (like in Act 1 with K
olsc
eadric
But yeah, Paladins are mechanically boring as hell. They don't even get spells anymore like in some D&D versions, their per-use stuff is kinda bland, but at least they are a decent off-tank/support/middle-of-the-road DPS. They just don't really bring anything worthwhile that other classes can or have any real big showstoppers. You can probably dump them and not really feel the hurt. Sure, a Paladin can be a force multiplier but I think I'd rather have a priest more often than not.
Sadly only Blizzard I've found has made Paladin-style classes fun to play at all. Otherwise the D&D Paladin template is really, really dull. It's sad because I love the Paladin concept, the idiot that I am.
Nimmermehr
Neo Member
Thanks! I feel pretty stupid now..
Some are their present lives though. Check the wording
Also: you CAN react to them
just A-click on them
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
Finally made it to the inn.
Killed everyone.
Looted everything.
Rested everywhere.
These folks have some good items!
Bishop needs to stop drinking.
Killed everyone.
Looted everything.
Rested everywhere.
These folks have some good items!
Bishop needs to stop drinking.
I'm going to be keeping this gun for the entire game out of pure stubbornness.
Prime crotch
Banned
Ya know, I praise Obsidian for sticking true to this very specific CRPG format, and even trying to soothe the warts and all, but I thought we had fixed issues like camping and combat flow long ago.
On the other hand, PoE wouldn't be a IE game if it didn't do these particular things.
I could use less hoity toity prose though, but whatever, it fits.
On the other hand, PoE wouldn't be a IE game if it didn't do these particular things.
I could use less hoity toity prose though, but whatever, it fits.
I think that was me and (unless there's a bug I'm unaware of) it's not working both ways, it's just that you're occasionally manually pausing a split-second after an auto-pause is triggered, resulting in a manual unpause. It's rare but, assuming at least one auto-pause is set, it's always a possibility.
I made a thread on the forums requesting an additional keybind option for pausing, implemented like the keybind options for Scouting Mode. The game currently has a single keybind for pause/unpause toggle, but I'd like two other keybinds dedicated to just pause and just unpause.
I think it was me, and it is working both ways...specifically if you choose to pause on ineffective weapon hits, the tooltip says it pauses for ineffective hits from party members (which makes sense because you would want to know you need to change weapons). But, it pauses if an enemy hits say, your companion and is ineffective, resulting in constant pauses. So, I've just ditched that pause option.
I don't know any way to tell when a weapon is ineffective besides fighting enough enemies for them to be in the known data page, and/or noticing low combat damage numbers.
Oh shit, I see. Sorry, I misunderstood how "both ways" was being used, ha. Assumed it was referring to both pause and unpause being applied.
Ah. I'm only familiar with the first one, but that makes sense. Way more interesting than the others (IMO).
He actually talks about them and his original plans for them in these interviews.
http://www.xp4t.com/interview-with-the-devs-chris-avellone/
http://www.pcgamesn.com/pillars-of-...hris-avellone-on-how-to-write-an-rpg/page/0/1
O.DOGG
Member
Agreed. The first thing that struck me was how much more interesting Durance was, and the depth he had when compared to the rest of the characters I've encountered so far. Then I saw in the Wiki that he was written by Chris Avellone and then it made sense. I have yet to recruit
the Grieving Mother
That's the only info we have for now, Obsidian is pretty silent about the game to be honest.
[first dungeon spoiler]
There are a lot of hints actually: book of verses, a note from an initiate, a hint from one of the visions. It was right, middle, left, right, IIRC.
This is a bit of a theme that's making me feel very restricted with how I build my party. I'm maining a 2hnd DPS Barbarian and slowly but surely every other member of my party except the tank has moved to rifle/crossbow. It feels like either you're a tank or a ranged dps class. Every melee oriented class feels weak/squishy and overly prone to dying without tons of micromanagement beyond what I have to worry about with other classes. The problem is I don't notice some sort of trade off, it's just worse being melee DPS. I really wish you could wear heavy armor as a melee and retain your attack speed.
The hints are from a vision and the book. The vision hints that the right bell is rung first and last, and you get the other two from the book as each bell stands in for one of the speakers. The right speaks first and last in the book too. I'm not sure if there's a direct clue as to how to deduce who the left and middle are, but really its pretty trial and error once you know the right is first and last and there are 4 times the characters speak.
bobnowhere
Member
I just got him, gave him a hatchet I found in Old Nua with fire damage and with his talent he's a dps machine. Of course he can also cast a huge number of amazing spells and transform into a crazy beastman. Awesome comp so far.
There is one more hint,
I think someone's handwritten note said that the large bell should be rung 2nd
But I only did the stolen armor quest, besides I already have a positive reputation with the knights too so I guess I wouldn't receive any quest from the Dozens either
He wrote Durance and Grieving Mother but they were heavily edited by the rest of the narrative team. Other than that he provided narrative oversight, editing, suggestions, etc. So yes, not as involved as you might think but definitely not influential.
Grieving Mother is my favorite companion BTW. She's so strange but amazingly compelling.
What issues?
There are many hints?! O_O
I guess I'm being lucky for being able to deduce it from one source of hint.