LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
The time where I facepalm and remind you that his ability only activates if town lynches him?
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Pineapple Pizza Mafia |OT| The War On Fruit Pizza
- Thread starter Sophia
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The time where I facepalm and remind you that his ability only activates if town lynches him?
Day 6 votes
nomadic sparks (0)
stanleypalmtree 4084 (4181)
darryl (0)
launchpadmcq 4102 (4167)
stanleypalmtree (0)
nomadic sparks 4132 (4243)
timetokill (4)
skyodin 4154 (4157)
hey_monkey 4155 (4162)
launchpadmcq 4167 (4176)
isaacnukem 4169
sorian 4174
stanleypalmtree 4181
dr. worm 4248
launchpadmcq (0)
hey_monkey 4163 (4242)
acohrs (2)
hey_monkey 4242
nomadic sparks 4244
An up to date vote count can be found here
Majority is 6
Day 6 ends in:
nomadic sparks (0)
darryl (0)
stanleypalmtree (0)
timetokill (4)
isaacnukem 4169
sorian 4174
stanleypalmtree 4181
dr. worm 4248
launchpadmcq (0)
acohrs (2)
hey_monkey 4242
nomadic sparks 4244
An up to date vote count can be found here
Majority is 6
Day 6 ends in:
hey_monkey
Banned
There's no reason for scum to kill him. He's either scum and lying under a preposterous story, or it's in scum's best interest for us to doubt him and lynch him. It's not in town's interest to lynch him as he has not demonstrated any scummy behavior and there is a green check in play.
So why do you think he should be killed by someone, anyone? What reason do you have to investigate Sky at this point?
Don't anymore, launchpad corrected me that lynching causes their power, not nightkilling. That essentially wrecks that argument so...yeah.
Not really sure where to go from here, leanscum on doctor and sometimes Darryl but can't find evidence to support that gutfeel so don't feel so hot about pursuing those leads
Lifeline/sorian being scum would be a very bastard move, TTKs claim seems towny to me but can understand the suspicion on them. Think they're town making mistakes rather than scum.
Hmmm...
timetokill
Banned
lrn 2 rd pls
Also, the hilarity of you going after me for taking your advice on not claiming is almost too much.
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I'm still trying to figure out how specific I should be with my wincon. I will say this much -- I'm looking for a specific person to "be my player 2" so to speak, and they won't be scum.
There's a lot of hub-bub about Blarg and that day's events. Let's clear things up.
When Monkey claimed alignment cop, and with 2-shot, I was suspicious because I didn't think there would be two alignment cops in the game, and her shot count didn't match mine.
When Blarg claimed neutral, I thought there was a good chance that he could be the person I was looking for. If you go back to that day's events, you'll see I was begging not for Blarg to live in perpetuity but for one more night -- I even specifically said to "lynch him tomorrow." I wanted the night phase so I could try my ability on him. I said I hoped monkey was right because I really did: him flipping scum meant we didn't lynch my target.
Now, Verelios is another matter. I got a "NOT MAFIA" reading from him, and his flip being blank has me thinking he was probably my target. It's not 100% confirmed but it seems very likely to me. Which is why I said I think my goal "might be impossible."
I thought about this a lot. In the end I decided that because I have a limited number of shots and my primary goal was to find my partner in order to win, I'd go after somebody I suspected might be that person. I knew I had another shot later if I needed to check her, and since Blarg was lynched and was mafia it seemed more likely that she was telling the truth.
hey_monkey
Banned
timetokill is a confessed neutral if not scum. Claimed a green check on Darryl. Are you reading the thread?
timetokill
Banned
On another note, my feelings on the rest of you
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- I'm wondering if Dr. Worm is scum and decided not to kill anybody in order to make his bulletproof claim. I have to look back to check, but it was supposedly 1 use, right, and the vest is done? This is another "I'm vanilla now guys, and obviously not worth killing!" claim that always makes me suspicious.
- Similar to SkyOdin's claim, which is a "it's not worth it for EITHER side to kill me!" claim
- Launchpad's flippity-floppiness all of a sudden, not to mention me sighting him driving that bus yesterday, has made me suddenly very suspicious. Plus he's going after my boy Darryl, and I can't have that.
- achors I don't have a strong read on whatsoever, I'm due to read back through his posts to get a better sense
VOTE: LaunchpadMcQ
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- I'm wondering if Dr. Worm is scum and decided not to kill anybody in order to make his bulletproof claim. I have to look back to check, but it was supposedly 1 use, right, and the vest is done? This is another "I'm vanilla now guys, and obviously not worth killing!" claim that always makes me suspicious.
- Similar to SkyOdin's claim, which is a "it's not worth it for EITHER side to kill me!" claim
- Launchpad's flippity-floppiness all of a sudden, not to mention me sighting him driving that bus yesterday, has made me suddenly very suspicious. Plus he's going after my boy Darryl, and I can't have that.
- achors I don't have a strong read on whatsoever, I'm due to read back through his posts to get a better sense
VOTE: LaunchpadMcQ
timetokill
Banned
I don't think they do or else I'm pretty sure we'd have connected by now, I was dropping those hints pretty hard earlier
hey_monkey
Banned
Well, he's clearly not paying a bit of attention and that's been the case for much of the game. He's had to be corrected multiple times. Right now, absent of anything else - because all the actives have some weird stuff happening, but can all be read as town under most circumstances - he's my top scum read.
If they didn't know, what makes you think it would've been Verelios? Was this confirmed to you?
Usually this type of thing is covered in a role PM; it's a weird implementation to obscure the flip if it denies you information on how to achieve your wincon.
Can you ask Sophia if your recruitment condition is still possible? I seriously doubt that your role would make your wincon unclear at any point.
Meant town aligned, but going to let you in on a secret, it's hard to concentrate on mafia when by a poolside B)
hey_monkey
Banned
I regret nothing except that you can edit posts and I can't.
I am currently inclined to trust timetokill's claim, conditionally. I think it's likely we do have a neutral but I'm confused as to why her alignment checks would be mafia/not mafia if her player 2 is not scum. But she did breadcrumb really hard, and not like Blarg. I really just thought she was into retro games.
My order right now of scummiest to least would be:
acohrs
Launch
timetokill
then:
Dr. Worm/Nomadic Sparks/StanleyPalmtree/Darryl/isaac all tied -these are all people who have compelling reasons to read them either way, resulting in uncertainty
Sorian, I guess, and SkyOdin - both are possible, but less likely
hey_monkey
Banned
I could go with Launch. But we keep threatening to flip acohrs and I think it's time. He's missed a lot of stuff in this game, even before vacation, and his play fits his scum profile.
Do you know whether they're neutral or town?
If ttk is telling the truth, it would explain a lot about her behavior on day 3, and perhaps give some insight into why Verelios' role PM was kept hidden. Of course, even if ttk is telling us the truth, that doesn't mean that we can trust a neutral to act in town's interest. She might be a liability if we go into Lylo.
We also have to consider that if ttk is telling us the truth, that means that Verelios may have been either town or a neutral, but probably not scum. Another neutral seems the most likely, but we won't know for sure until the game ends.
I am worried that we still have two (or even three, if we are unlucky) mafia in the game. I would prefer to focus on hunting scum rather than a neutral today, but if we fail and hit town, we might go into Mylo/Lylo. So i would like it if our lynch is a good bet.
We also have to consider that if ttk is telling us the truth, that means that Verelios may have been either town or a neutral, but probably not scum. Another neutral seems the most likely, but we won't know for sure until the game ends.
I am worried that we still have two (or even three, if we are unlucky) mafia in the game. I would prefer to focus on hunting scum rather than a neutral today, but if we fail and hit town, we might go into Mylo/Lylo. So i would like it if our lynch is a good bet.
nah, just you I think
if ttk is truthful, it means Blarg valiantly stood up for his scumbuddy in order to lynch his scumbuddy instead of trying to lynch a not-scum that was also a viable option
possible he could be another neutral, I guess, maybe ttk's partner
hey_monkey
Banned
That's a fair point. But I've been reading a lot of past games for research on mine and it wouldn't surprise me. acohrs would have been a safe flip for cred-gain. And then today he's all tra-la-la, ttk is town, Darryl is scum, I have nfi what's happening in the thread, and it ain't the first time in this game that it's felt like he's not paying attention to what's happening here, which could be a sign he's paying attention to something else.
It would be nice if we could get more information out of Nomadic Sparks, but we've been trying that for days. I'm not hopeful. But if ttk is right and Verelios was not scum, then we're in a relatively bad position. I just can't understand what would hide Vere's flip if the situation didn't go down as we discussed. If scum didn't kill him, would neutral have a latent hide ability? It seems very anti-town, at least.
as would Swamped
and it's now apparent that there was scum on Swamped voting her for cred-gain, soooo
isaacnukem
Member
What is that even for?
isaacnukem
Member
Rest in peace, good sir. You will forever be in our stomachs.
I just hiked 8 miles through a lot of elevation, someone kill me.
Anyway, TTK, your claim isn't making sense to me. You successfully investigated Verelios but you still think he was who you were looking for? What's your second command then because the investigation sounds like a means to an end then.
Anyway, TTK, your claim isn't making sense to me. You successfully investigated Verelios but you still think he was who you were looking for? What's your second command then because the investigation sounds like a means to an end then.
They wouldn't, they likely could have a role cop though which is who would usually fake alignment cop.
isaacnukem
Member
Remember when someone claimed neutral? Hawaii remembers.
Does Lifeline ever get around to explaining how he was mod confirmed? I'm only reading the very start of day 2 but he seems fine letting you all think he was a celebrity. I saw Worm's summary up above and I'm listed as innocent child so that's better at least because that is the role name in my PM but I'm not really innocent child on its own. I assume Swamped activated me.
hey_monkey
Banned
As best we can tell, since Lifeline was REALLY cagey about it, Swamped tried to roleblock him and it activated innocent child.
hey_monkey
Banned
Please explain, since Launch has been really flip-floppy and claimed under weird circumstances.
Ok yeah, same conclusion I got after seeing my role PM and looking at all the flips. Either Swamped specifically or any scum member that doesn't have a killing action. I just had to be handed pineapple pizza in any way.
He came into day 2 and had two people that he could have voted for with the exact same reasoning, Natiko and Swamped, for causing that day 1 tie. I don't see him subbing in and jumping on a bus that fast. Partially contingent on how he was as she got closer to dying but if he is going for that easy logic, I see him dropping the vote on Natiko instead as scum.
lol at the salt from like two weeks ago.
Also "spirit of the game" bullshit again.
My sides.
hey_monkey
Banned
Sorry, man. The word "town" is even in my role name, and I assume I'm only alive because Darryl claimed backup and I'd guess backup wouldn't activate unless I was dead, not out of shots.
I'm guessing ttk can't use her ability every night IF she's telling the truth - five nights, three checks. And I only had two shots. That does mitigate it somewhat.
I think Dr. Worm is a possibility. He's been hard to read generally but has also demonstrated some very townie frustration, just as with Darryl, Palmer, and myself. But we have some strangeness in a lynchproof person (Stan) and a bulletproof (Worm). What do you think about Nomadic's weird behavior when you get there? Surely we do have a doctor and he's been a convenient vote, but also weird as a beard. Also hard to read: isaac, acohrs.
Being able to ever check two people in one night is already a lot of info. And yeah, the whole back up thing two, there is no way there are two alignment cops.
I'm not at a point where Nomadic has been important, I feel like he's made one post.
Isaac is a new player (duh) but I mean that he is sinking in it. He has no clue what he's doing and I feel like he got no coaching at all which makes no sense as scum since Swamped was on the team.
I don't fucking know on Acohrs anymore. He's on my list of people I can't read.
StanleyPalmtree
Banned
people, i think i just had bit of a Keyser Söze *drops glass* moment.
i think TTK is a scum recruiter, or some kind of hidden ally type deal.
i think it makes the weird choices for scum picks makes more sense,
but mostly its what makes the most sense of the return being MAFIA / NOT MAFIA, like, the idea is that they have a potential partner but they dont know who, checking someone to specifically find out if they are mafia or not fits this perfectly.
hell it even would make a lot of flavor sense, like it could be someone ashamed about how they like Pineapple pizza. maybe, i dunno.
ttk might have even been right about that being why Verelios's flip not showing up, as it could have given town a very significant clue about one of scum's roles.
shit i dunno, does this make as much sense as i think it does, or am i just crazy here?
i think TTK is a scum recruiter, or some kind of hidden ally type deal.
i think it makes the weird choices for scum picks makes more sense,
but mostly its what makes the most sense of the return being MAFIA / NOT MAFIA, like, the idea is that they have a potential partner but they dont know who, checking someone to specifically find out if they are mafia or not fits this perfectly.
hell it even would make a lot of flavor sense, like it could be someone ashamed about how they like Pineapple pizza. maybe, i dunno.
ttk might have even been right about that being why Verelios's flip not showing up, as it could have given town a very significant clue about one of scum's roles.
shit i dunno, does this make as much sense as i think it does, or am i just crazy here?
this came up before
it's worth considering, I think
also, this is probably nothing, but weirdly prescient nonetheless:
it's worth considering, I think
also, this is probably nothing, but weirdly prescient nonetheless:
seems like our remaining scum is a busser - probably either myself of Launch
I could see Launch and ttk as exclusive scum
You know what? I have been scum reading acohrs and 30years/timetokill this entire damn game. Timetokill has already claimed neutral, but with a suspicious role claim that doesn't clearly fit into serving her professed win condition. Meanwhile, acohrs led the lynch on BlackBuzzard, and both acohrs and timetokill voted for Nomadic Sparks to save Blargonaut within two posts of each other. I am not going to get any closure until I see one of their two flips.
Nomadic Sparks
Banned
unvote: acohrs
Watch yourself breh
vote: ttk
either ttk/30yrs are scum
ttk is opening theirselves up for a lynch
Watch yourself breh
vote: ttk
either ttk/30yrs are scum
ttk is opening theirselves up for a lynch
Nomadic Sparks
Banned
plz Odin don't be scum I'm actually rooting for you
hey_monkey
Banned
So I'm trying to trace it out:
We flip timetokill, and she's neutral as stated, we go nowhere. I am hesitant to think that she would try the same tactic as Blarg but it's not unpossible. I find it a bit weird that she has to know she's on the block and she's been one of the lighter posters, but that's not totally without precedent.
We flip ttk and she's scum, it may or may not connect to Darryl (who is the only living player she green-checked) and possibly acohrs or Nomadic Sparks, who she's been semi okay with and who claims to have protected her - or at least covered her when she clearly wasn't a target that night. Unless he's actually a redirect, which would be a whole fucking other wrench. But I doubt that.
We flip acohrs and it may lead out but may create dead ends.
We flip Stan as was suggested early in the day by Darryl and eh. Not much connection to anyone else on the face; the people most pushing Stan yesterday were Darryl, Lifeline who's gone, and some others agreed, like Sky. But it's not the biggest clue since Lifeline started that one and I think Darryl got aggro on it out of frustration.
We flip Launch and I'm really not sure. Same with Nomadic Sparks and isaac. No real connections for the latter two and Launch has been so erratic that it'd be hard to tell.
We flip timetokill, and she's neutral as stated, we go nowhere. I am hesitant to think that she would try the same tactic as Blarg but it's not unpossible. I find it a bit weird that she has to know she's on the block and she's been one of the lighter posters, but that's not totally without precedent.
We flip ttk and she's scum, it may or may not connect to Darryl (who is the only living player she green-checked) and possibly acohrs or Nomadic Sparks, who she's been semi okay with and who claims to have protected her - or at least covered her when she clearly wasn't a target that night. Unless he's actually a redirect, which would be a whole fucking other wrench. But I doubt that.
We flip acohrs and it may lead out but may create dead ends.
We flip Stan as was suggested early in the day by Darryl and eh. Not much connection to anyone else on the face; the people most pushing Stan yesterday were Darryl, Lifeline who's gone, and some others agreed, like Sky. But it's not the biggest clue since Lifeline started that one and I think Darryl got aggro on it out of frustration.
We flip Launch and I'm really not sure. Same with Nomadic Sparks and isaac. No real connections for the latter two and Launch has been so erratic that it'd be hard to tell.
Well, I can assure you that I am not scum.
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But it isn't a good look when you keep immediatly following up people by echoing their votes without inserting your own logic.
If you are town, I would also suggest being cautious about taking any of my speculation as necessarily a good idea. I am trying my best here, but I am by no means an expert mafia player. I don't think my guesses have a good track record
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