Mysteriously RT is totally not credible and doesn't matter any time a film you're interested in is poorly received.
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Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales (Salazar's Revenge) - Reviews
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Mysteriously RT is totally not credible and doesn't matter any time a film you're interested in is poorly received.
Kite
Member
Hmm. Yep.
I haven't seen the movie in quite some time, but the thing that came to mind about is that the pacing was all over the place.
The Pirates franchise was quickly ruined by me because of hordes of guys suddenly dressing like Captain Jack and acting like they're as cool as Depp at music festivals and the like. They stayed in character all the time and everything. There was a real plague of them from 2003 onwards.
They should just ditch this series and make a stopmotion Monkey Island movie. They've got the rights now after all, and these movies were always a pale imitation of those games.
They should just ditch this series and make a stopmotion Monkey Island movie. They've got the rights now after all, and these movies were always a pale imitation of those games.
Oh my god I love that idea.
I liked 2, but 1 was such a perfect thing. Pacing, characters, dialogue, everything about it.
Generic Power Ranger
Member
Rotten tomatoes is super random, A great movie can do terrible and a bad one can do really well. I always find user score on IMDB a lot more telling. Don't know why people subscribe so much to rotten tomatoes.
What's even correlation between Monkey Island And Pirates. I really dont get your suggestion though
CaviarMeths
Member
Literally zero of the people who gave Pirates 5 a rotten rating were positive towards Assassin's Creed. I checked.
It's fine if you want to stan for this movie, but right now you're kinda just flailing around and not making much sense.
IMDb is pure ballot-stuffing. Superfans of whatever newest blockbuster create dozens of accounts to rate their preferred series' new movie a 10 before they even see it. They also make sure to use all those sockpuppet accounts to rate "competing" movies a 1. It's the worst and a completely useless metric. Even the user ratings on RT are better.
There is nothing whatsoever random about RT. Its biggest sin is that it doesn't encourage people to read actual reviews.
Tal Shiar Agent
Banned
How many films has he made since Pirates 1?
I doubt it's going to bomb. The 4th movie had a very tame critical reception as well, and was one of the most profitable movies ever. Made over a billion worldwide.
In the 90s they were going to make an animated Monkey Island movie. Same scriptwriters and everything (Terry Rossio primarily). They didn't end up making it, and it got retooled into the Pirates movies. It's not a secret, there's storyboards all over the place online. Lots of story beats and characters that would have been in the Monkey Island movie.
You can sort of tell by looking at the movies, there's lots of jokes/moments/scenes that are remarkably similar to moments in Monkey Island. I'm far from the first to notice it, a lot of articles have been written about it over the years (including comments from the Monkey Island creators and Rossio himself).
I'm the same. Movie is reviewing as normal, really. But I'm a Pirates fanboy so I'm just happy to have another. Eh.
Pagusas
Elden Member
None of the Pirates films, even the 4th, were bombs though. They all made insane money.
Seriously the pirates name was good enough to float the 4th film pass 1 billion, in 2011! http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=piratesofthecaribbean4.htm
Joe Shlabotnik
Banned
Comedic undead pirate adventure is not a particularly broad genre
IMDB scores are trash.
No but maybe comments like this yes.
I've always said people put way too much stock into an RT score. People will look at a score and deem the movie shit without ever having seen any of it.
But there are definitely people that pick and decide when RT is relevant for them. If you're doing to subscribe to a notion. Subscribe to it all the time.
I think you will enjoy the movie all stuff they shown so far solid and director is much better then Stranger Tides crappy director.
I think it goes to show that you never trust early review reactions. Now the game begins, which movie gets the lower RT score, this or wonder women. I think it will be too close to call
^^^ I think RT has become nothing more than a trolling device, esp when it comes to marvel vs dc
I'm going to ask this. What difference does it make if this reviewer gave AC a better rating than this movie? When people are reviewing things they are not thinking about comparing it to another bad movie they reviewed.
I think this is where you gotta disassociate for a bit. It probably means that particular reviewers taste is just different from yours.
Beren the Empty-Handed
Member
I dunno. The terrible photoshop and the deer-caught-in-headlights Miss Airbrushed Boobs has take it beyond that.
I'll say this. WW positive reception has come from critics and press. Not overly excited fanboys. Reviews can be different, but everything surrounding this movie has a different mood to it
Lights and Waves
Member
Grace Randolph dragged it pretty good. I really love her reviews.
Lowkey I'm glad this movie is getting horrible reviews. Johnny Depp is trash + bad word of mouth = more people seeing Wonder Woman the weekend after next.
Lowkey I'm glad this movie is getting horrible reviews. Johnny Depp is trash + bad word of mouth = more people seeing Wonder Woman the weekend after next.
I hope that's the case, because i have always been a fan of WW and i have early screening passes to see it this wednesday
Coriolanus
Banned
Apparently three. Black Mass seems to be decent.
Just wait until Marvel picks him up for some role, he will get that 250 million dollar salary.
Fangirls will keep it alive sadly. I know many women that are hyped for it like the movies before. I dont know why. Maybe because of Depp? Only 1 and 3 were good. 3 was a tad too long though. Will watch this one for an euro in the next months maybe.
Nobody said any different it was another topic about how RT as a concept fundemantally broken. I pointed out Assassins Creed because i thought that movie was trash , then somebody claimed i was lying.Though we saw the truth.
Nope. Pirates gonna dominate the hell out until Transformers/Cars 3 arrives.
Joe Shlabotnik
Banned
I mean the entire point of an aggregator like Rotten Tomatoes is to smooth out the idiosyncratic tastes of a particular critic
Like you're saying it's useless by pointing out the thing it actually hedges against
That's why they use a Tomato-meter and not a Matt Singer-ometer
Sorcerer
Member
What role will that be, Mr. Flop? Flopman? King of Flops? Makes bad movies hoping to cruise on one big payoff.
eh...?
He's playing Grindelwald in the Fantastic Beasts franchise for the next few installments.
ebullientprism
Member
Good enough for me.
Tal Shiar Agent
Banned
Does Fantastic Beasts have even half of the pull of the named Harry Potter films?
Generic Power Ranger
Member
While imdb users who worked on a movie might push a positive narrative and "stuff the ballot", said ballot usually gets evened out to a score that matches up with the movie. On rotten tomatoes you can have a movie at 100 pecent, but it's average, or 0 percent, but it's average so it's just a bad way to measure a movies quality.
I've seen people completely dismiss movies that are pretty good, because critics leaned slightly to the negative and the RT rating tanked as a result.
CaviarMeths
Member
Ah, indeed I missed that glowing recommendation for AC. Perhaps I should buy new eyes that help to appreciate terrible movies.
Not sure anyone is going to want to hire Johnny "Wife Beater" Depp for their comic book movies.
Thats why Rotten Tomatoes shouldnt have a collective scoreboard or something. Cool if its one place to bring all reviews together but the moment you collect them as scores it fails around.
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
Yikes. Sounds like I can skip this one until it comes to Netflix. My big fear after the 4th one was that this would be more of the same, all the elements without any of the charm. The premise alone sounded like they were afraid to try something new.
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