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Pitchfork's Top 500 Songs of the 2000s

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think what you want about pitchfork, but i've discovered a lot of songs i've missed this decade from this list. it's a weird mix of typical pitchfork indie with more mainstream pop and hip hop.

head here to see all of them:
http://www.pitchfork.com

and the top 20:

20. The Walkmen "The Rat"
19. R. Kelly "Ignition (Remix)"
18. Hercules and Love Affair "Blind"
17. Annie "Heartbeat"
16. The Rapture "House of Jealous Lovers"
15. The Knife "Heartbeats"
14. Jay-Z "99 Problems"
13. LCD Soundsystem "Losing My Edge"
12. OutKast "Hey Ya!"
11. Gnarls Barkley "Crazy"
10. Arcade Fire "Neighborhood #1 (Tunnels)"
9. Animal Collective "My Girls"
8. Radiohead "Idioteque"
7. Missy Elliott "Get Ur Freak On"
6. Yeah Yeah Yeahs "Maps"
5. Daft Punk "One More Time"
4. Beyoncé [ft. Jay-Z] "Crazy in Love"
3. M.I.A. [ft. Bun B and Rich Boy] "Paper Planes (Diplo Remix)"
2. LCD Soundsystem "All My Friends"
1. OutKast "B.O.B."
 

tenritsu

Banned
muttyeah416 said:
think what you want about pitchfork, but i've discovered a lot of songs i've missed this decade from this list. it's a weird mix of typical pitchfork indie with more mainstream pop and hip hop.

head here to see all of them:
http://www.pitchfork.com

and the top 20:


ooooh boy. :lol :lol (@ the list)
 

Doytch

Member
I thought it was a real weird list for Pitchfork, to say the least. Though to be honest, I never listen to just a song and pretty much only think in terms of albums.
 
Yeah some of us tweeters are all a...twitter about this list. I thought they started strong, and the first 50 of the top 100 are pretty strong, but that top 10 is just sad. Should've been:

5) Idioteque
4) One More Time
3) Neighborhood #1
2) My Girls
1) Paper Planes
 

Dartastic

Member
You guys do realize that these songs aren't all chosen due to how hard they make you move your head, right? It seems like they're picking them on a social significance level as well. Also, where is Two Weeks by Grizzly Bear? Is it anywhere in the list?
 

Doytch

Member
Dartastic said:
You guys do realize that these songs aren't all chosen due to how hard they make you move your head, right? It seems like they're picking them on a social significance level as well.

Yeah, I know, but then I don't think Neighbourhood #1 is a better choice than, say Wake Up, or Windowsill to just pick from Arcade Fire's catalogue. It's just a strange list for me.
 
Dartastic said:
You guys do realize that these songs aren't all chosen due to how hard they make you move your head, right? It seems like they're picking them on a social significance level as well.

They didn't even pick the most significant Beyonce song as their top Beyonce one. Single Ladies is soooo much better than that.
 

KingGondo

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#1 makes sense actually. If anything sounds like the 2000s, B.O.B. does.

I also agree with Ignition's inclusion, their write-up about the song is awesome.
 
Doytch said:
Yeah, I know, but then I don't think Neighbourhood #1 is a better choice than, say Wake Up, or Windowsill to just pick from Arcade Fire's catalogue. It's just a strange list for me.
yeah it's very strange. rebellion (lies) is way further down, and i don't think the songs you mentioned made it on the list at all.

Dartastic said:
You guys do realize that these songs aren't all chosen due to how hard they make you move your head, right? It seems like they're picking them on a social significance level as well. Also, where is Two Weeks by Grizzly Bear? Is it anywhere in the list?

yeah i totally agree, and that's why a lot of the songs aren't the best from an artist, but the one with the most social impact. i think Two Weeks is in the top 50, although i'm a much bigger fan of Knife.
 
OptimoPeach said:
lol @ that top 20. "We're not hipsters, look! We like black people music too!" I'm surprised Weezy didn't make it in there.

That's the basic story of Pitchfork. Reviews wtfisthisshit alt rock along with mainstream "hey this is on top 40 radio" rap albums. Still though, you can't deny some of those rap/r&b songs are pretty decade and genre defining. I don't really have a problem with B.O.B, cause it's a fantastic song, but number 1 was a little :-/

Paper Planes deserves its spot.
 

Peru

Member
There's a good amount of pop, I just wish the pop choices weren't so PREDICTABLE and SAFE and not-the-best-ones-at-all. 'Since U Been Gone' is a decent ditty, but not Max Martin's best composition of the decade (4Ever or It's Gonna Be Me). The Aaliyah/Timbaland co-ops should've been way higher. There's a total ignorance against essential pop from outside of USA, mostly (except for Annie). Where's t.A.T.u? It defines the decade much more than most of this list's entries, captures an essense of teenage life. Where are all the best modern r'n'b tracks near the top? Girls Aloud's Biology is ludicriously low. I guess this is what you get from consensus, though. Looking forward to Tom Ewing's "decade in pop" article coming up.

(also, ranking 500 songs is a pretty senseless task. individual and shorter lists would've been more exciting)
 
I hate Pitchfork, but to be fair I think these were top singles and not top songs. In the B.O.B writeup it says:

"So you've spent the past five days clicking through pages of this countdown only to find out that the best single of the 2000s was released just 10 months into the decade."

So they get a little leeway from me on this one if it is the case. Though trying to rank 1 through 500 of anything is still asinine.
 

beelzebozo

Jealous Bastard
wow, reading through this list, it's kind of scary to realize in retrospect how much some people i know completely fall into the company line when it comes to being led by the proverbial musical nose by this site.
 

gimmmick

Member
Pitchfork being pitchfork.

I'm only interested to see their top albums of this decade. Funeral from Arcade Fire will get #1.
 
Honestly, fuck pitchfork. There isn't another site on the internet that pushes their music opinion as fact as hard as dickfork.
 
Honestly, if you're just going by social significance, parts of the list were pretty well thought-out, but from a personal preference standpoint, I don't even *like* more than maybe 30, 40 songs on the entire motherfucking list. I was pretty alienated when I saw the top 20 and only really liked one or two of them. Also, I find the total absence of Tom Waits, Warren Zevon, and Joe Strummer rather disheartening. Just one token song, you indie nerds.

And what happened to acknowledging great songwriters? Most of these songs, even the obscure ones, are basically pop songs that are picked for melody or aesthetic or cultural context reasons, but there are almost no great songwriter songs on here.

As for the rap fixation on the list, it's really disingenuous. This is all top 40 pop-rap stuff, which really shows that pitchfork had no interest in actually investigating the heights of the genre and is more interested in looking culturally unbiased. "Look, we like black people!" which is hilarious coming from a publication that promotes the whitest, tamest folk-pop stuff in the world, like Sufjan Stevens or Of Montreal or whatever.
 
OptimoPeach said:
lol @ that top 20. "We're not hipsters, look! We like black people music too!" I'm surprised Weezy didn't make it in there.
Story of Pitchfork. Monitoring the pulse of white hipster college students but happily promoting anything MTV likes as long as a minority is involved.

They could do so much better with their hip-hop selections.
 

Peru

Member
Aristotlekh said:
And what happened to acknowledging great songwriters? Most of these songs, even the obscure ones, are basically pop songs that are picked for melody or aesthetic or cultural context reasons, but there are almost no great songwriter songs on here.

The most ludicrous claim. Are 'songwriter qualities' only present when someone is sat with an acoustic guitar warbling about their tough life? There's as much songwriting craft and artistic vision in Umbrella as Warren bloody Zevon for shit's sake. Well, more, since Umbrella is greater than every track Zevon ever wrote.

Still, a pretty boring list when all is said and done.
 
Peru said:
The most ludicrous claim. Are 'songwriter qualities' only present when someone is sat with an acoustic guitar warbling about their tough life? There's as much songwriting craft and artistic vision in Umbrella as Warren bloody Zevon for shit's sake. Well, more, since Umbrella is greater than every track Zevon ever wrote.

Still, a pretty boring list when all is said and done.

oh fuck off
 

KingDirk

Member
I never really use Pitchfork as a resource for finding out about new albums/artists these days. I also couldn't even think about listing the top 500 songs of the decade; typical album-preference, not knowing enough about large swathes of music, etc, etc.

Whenever I go through P4ks top albums of the year, however, or their best new music I'm always mystified because the criteria for these lists seem inscrutable. Excepting certain 'approved' albums being shoo-ins for BNM, of course.

Also, if Funeral gets #1 I'll be peeved. It's not even the best Arcade Fire album.
 

Chamber

love on your sleeve
muttyeah416 said:
head here to see all of them:
http://www.pitchfork.com

and the top 20:
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We really should do the NeoGAF top album vote again. The last one is what, 2 years old?
 

ATF487

Member
I wonder if all this pitchfork hate is just because they're the most well known indie site

I haven't really found a review site that isn't hugely flawed, and I've been looking for the better part of the decade.
 
Doytch said:
Yeah, I know, but then I don't think Neighbourhood #1 is a better choice than, say Wake Up, or Windowsill to just pick from Arcade Fire's catalogue. It's just a strange list for me.

I do! First time I listened to Funeral I was so stunned by "Tunnels" I listened to it two or three times before even letting the rest of the album play. I'm not entirely sure they've ever topped it.
 
KingDirk said:
I never really use Pitchfork as a resource for finding out about new albums/artists these days. I also couldn't even think about listing the top 500 songs of the decade; typical album-preference, not knowing enough about large swathes of music, etc, etc.

Whenever I go through P4ks top albums of the year, however, or their best new music I'm always mystified because the criteria for these lists seem inscrutable. Excepting certain 'approved' albums being shoo-ins for BNM, of course.

Also, if Funeral gets #1 I'll be peeved. It's not even the best Arcade Fire album.

Eh, why be peeved? It's probably the more meaningful of the two albums, even though I agree with you. Plus, Pitchfork prefers it, so why would they pick Neon Bible over it? These are just a group of 20 somethings and their opinions, it's not like it's some machine that asserts their opinion harshly. They're just as dick-waving as your average GAF member.
 

reilo

learning some important life lessons from magical Negroes
If societal impact has much more weight to their song choices than anything else, then I don't see how they managed to not include a single Eminem song in the top 50. There was nobody quite like him that made as much of an impact in the hip-hop scene in the early 2000s. And not just him - no Dr. Dre either. TI is in the fucking top 50.
 

Calcaneus

Member
I rarely appreciate lists on the internet, I'm more interested in the articles they'll have next week.

Going by their criteria (quality, significance), Idioteque, Hey ya, One more Time, 99 Problems, and Ignition are the only ones I would keep from their top 20.
 

Peru

Member
reilo said:
If societal impact has much more weight to their song choices than anything else, then I don't see how they managed to not include a single Eminem song in the top 50. There was nobody quite like him that made as much of an impact in the hip-hop scene in the early 2000s. And not just him - no Dr. Dre either. TI is in the fucking top 50.

Agreed. Very odd, when Gnarls bloody Barkley is in there.

Not as dumb as excluding t.A.T.u, though.
 

KingDirk

Member
BrandNew said:
Eh, why be peeved? It's probably the more meaningful of the two albums, even though I agree with you. Plus, Pitchfork prefers it, so why would they pick Neon Bible over it? These are just a group of 20 somethings and their opinions, it's not like it's some machine that asserts their opinion harshly. They're just as dick-waving as your average GAF member.

Ah, yeah, you're right. I'm recovering from residual butthurt over the typical "omg why didn't they like x album" repeated ad nauseam. I can understand making an argument for significance for the first one--I guess I wish more praise would be directed towards NB in general.

Hah, I don't think of P4k as dick-waving, though. Maybe in the earlierish days when they'd issue superharsh reviews more often, but nowadays any opinion is couched in being overly self-conscious in trying to justify something as more than just personal preference.
 
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