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Pitchfork's Top 500 Songs of the 2000s
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Fidelis Hodie
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That one song with the beach boys cover is just beautiful. Always will love it.
you know, i really love pitchfork. they do such a great job of turning me on to new music. i don't love everything they love but i find a lot of great music every year through them which is all that matters to me. when i first learned about the site though i was a big hater cause they hated the music i liked :lol. but i've really warmed up to them because i've read a bunch of interviews with their writers and have seen them talk on forums with other fans and i just get a sense that they don't have an agenda (i used to think they did) they just really love music and are honest with their opinions. that being said this list hasn't been that great for me :lol i haven't gotten into the meat of it yet and i'm already familiar with some of it but it hasn't turned me onto anything new yet
thestopsign
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Fidelis Hodie said:
John Allyn Smith Sails? Yeah, I was just blown away when I first heard the song. The lyrics are really really depressing though, but that is too be expected because it's about suicide.
I'm going to list my preliminary Top 10, but remember I definitely will change this once I've heard more bands from this decade, I'm still finding a lot of great new bands. Hell, I listened to Arcade Fire for the first time a year and a half ago, so I'm sure I've missed a lot of good songs.
No order:
The Killers - All These Things That I've Done
The Postal Service - Such Great Heights
Arcade Fire - Wake Up
Daft Punk - One More Time
Okkervil River - Our Life Is Not A Movie or Maybe
Fleet Foxes - Ragged Wood
Gorrilaz - Clint Eastwood
Interpol - Obstacle 2
Islands - Rough Gem
Spoon - The Way We Get By
Honorable Mentions:
The Strokes - Reptilia
The Strokes - New York City Cops
They Might Be Giants - Experimental Film
Radiohead - Reckoner
Wolf Parade - I'll Believe in Anything
Red Hot Chili Peppers - Make You Feel Better
Arcade Fire - Windowsills
kitchenmotors
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Nothing pisses me off more than comments like...
Anyway, I'm gonna do a quick TOP 20 list of my favorite songs of the 2000's so far:
20. The Ball - The Dodos
19. Run Into Flowers - M83
18. Aurora - Björk
17. The Ringing In My Ears - Her Space Holiday
16. Crayon - Caribou
15. First Orgasm - The Dresden Dolls
14. Black Stacey - Saul Williams
13. All My Friends - LCD Soundsystem
12. Fake Palindromes - Andrew Bird
11. Lua - Bright Eyes
10. Leaving Hope - Nine Inch Nails
09. Avril 14th - Aphex Twin
08. This Weather - Patrick Wolf
07. Banshee Beat -Animal Collective
06. Consequence - The Notwist
05. I'm 9 Today - Múm
04. Fahrenheit Fair Enough - Telefon Tel Aviv
03. Detroit, Lift Up Your Weary Head! (Rebuild! Restore! Reconsider!) - Sufjan Stevens
02. Njósnavélin (Untitled 4 or The Nothing Song) - Sigur Rós
I couldn't decide between the two for my Number One spot, so I'm adding both.
01. Genesis - Justice
01. Wham City - Dan Deacon
Anyway, I'm gonna do a quick TOP 20 list of my favorite songs of the 2000's so far:
20. The Ball - The Dodos
19. Run Into Flowers - M83
18. Aurora - Björk
17. The Ringing In My Ears - Her Space Holiday
16. Crayon - Caribou
15. First Orgasm - The Dresden Dolls
14. Black Stacey - Saul Williams
13. All My Friends - LCD Soundsystem
12. Fake Palindromes - Andrew Bird
11. Lua - Bright Eyes
10. Leaving Hope - Nine Inch Nails
09. Avril 14th - Aphex Twin
08. This Weather - Patrick Wolf
07. Banshee Beat -Animal Collective
06. Consequence - The Notwist
05. I'm 9 Today - Múm
04. Fahrenheit Fair Enough - Telefon Tel Aviv
03. Detroit, Lift Up Your Weary Head! (Rebuild! Restore! Reconsider!) - Sufjan Stevens
02. Njósnavélin (Untitled 4 or The Nothing Song) - Sigur Rós
I couldn't decide between the two for my Number One spot, so I'm adding both.
01. Genesis - Justice
01. Wham City - Dan Deacon
Boards of Canada
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Someone Great by LCD Soundsystem should be #2...
muttyeah416
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See? That's how we all get along : )ucdawg12 said:
Everybody tries to be the tastemaker. Rolling Stone tried to do it in print, Pitchfork took over online. Music criticism is just opinions from a group of music lovers, and Pitchfork isn't in the wrong anymore than any other music outlet, or you. Yes YOU, haters and lovers of Pitchfork, are all a little Pitchfork inside. Ok, they write a glowing review for something you think sucks, well then don't listen to it. These websites are made for finding new music, not for being the definitive opinion on music.
Alex Anderson
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Had to see if there was a token Blur song...
Shoulda been Music Is My Radar
Shoulda been Music Is My Radar
mattiewheels
And then the LORD David Bowie saith to his Son, Jonny Depp: 'Go, and spread my image amongst the cosmos. For every living thing is in anguish and only the LIGHT shall give them reprieve.'
yeah, looks like they got em all in the correct order. how do they manage that?
Cosmic Bus
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Just for the sake of dragging up an argument from the last page, go listen to the DFA remix of "Paper Planes" and tell me it's not a complete disaster almost entirely because it's missing the gun shots and cash registers. They're a critical part of that song's perfection.
Steven_Jitters
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B.O.B. at #1 works for me. I've always thought the song and video are amazing. Ahead of it's time and it does a ton of things in one song, the rapping is so rapid fire yet every word is perfectly delivered and understandable.
Cosmic Bus
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Vox-Pop said:
Seems to be, yes. I will admit to not being familiar with the Clash song.
AlteredBeast
Fork 'em, Sparky!
Dartastic said:
I was at the Late Show last year when they performed that for one of the first times. I was completely and utterly blown away. Unfortunately, the studio versions and the other versions live I have heard don't match up to it even close.
Its right...here.
http://sadsteve.com/preview.py?url=http://onethirtybpm.com/mp3/Grizzly Bear - Two Weeks [Live%20on%20David%20Letterman].mp3&song=Two%20Weeks%20[Live%20on%20David%20Letterman]&artist=Grizzly%20Bear
Fidelis Hodie
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Alucard said:
Looking back, I'd agree. Mr. November is just so good. . .
muttyeah416
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my stab at a top five:
5. Arcade Fire - Rebellion (Lies)
4. Bright Eyes - First Day Of My Life
3. Deerhunter - Nothing Ever Happened
2. Kings of Convenience - I Don't Know What I Can Save You From (Royksopp Remix)
1. Anathallo - Hanasakajijii (four: a great wind, more ash)
or something like that. it always changes.
5. Arcade Fire - Rebellion (Lies)
4. Bright Eyes - First Day Of My Life
3. Deerhunter - Nothing Ever Happened
2. Kings of Convenience - I Don't Know What I Can Save You From (Royksopp Remix)
1. Anathallo - Hanasakajijii (four: a great wind, more ash)
or something like that. it always changes.
Fidelis Hodie
Infidelis Cras
Peru said:
:lol :lol
No seriously.
:lol :lol :lol :lol
I can't think of a favorite song, but for some reason I've been listening to this a lot lately even though I'm not new to the band or anything:
mewithoutYou - In a Sweater Poorly Knit
mewithoutYou - In a Sweater Poorly Knit
Fidelis Hodie said:
Stop posting smileys laughing. No seriously. We get your point, you're mentally stumped and can't form a string of words resembling a coherent sentence. "Umbrella"'s critical impact is huge, it's both lauded by the field's best journalists and has inspired so many artists today working in both pop and r'n'b. You may continue to show a lacking vocabular and skewed perspective on what music is good elsewhere.
This is a questionable list, but fuck, it's Pitchfork, and the 500 best songs of the decade is such a fucking stupid assertion, anyway.
Big WTF at Paper Planes. I feel like this is only so high because it's an American list and that was her major in-road. Good, but not that good.
EVERYONE was obsessed with Ignition. If anything, it should be higher. Same goes for Get Ur Freak On.
As much as I love The-Dream, Single Ladies isn't even the better single. Crazy in Love assured Beyonce's relevance as a solo artist in the place of Destiny's Child. SL is just a good single - which has already lost it's legs, for what it's worth.
And Pfork have been DFA dickriding since the dawn of time. This is nothing new.
Big WTF at Paper Planes. I feel like this is only so high because it's an American list and that was her major in-road. Good, but not that good.
The only thing wrong with 99 Problems is that the best line on it is Bun B's. It's far and away the best and most interesting song on The Black Album. I don't know what kind of genetic defect you'd have to possess to argue against that.reilo said:
EVERYONE was obsessed with Ignition. If anything, it should be higher. Same goes for Get Ur Freak On.
What the fuck? How is single ladies her most significant single, quality aside? What are you even talking about?BrandNew said:
As much as I love The-Dream, Single Ladies isn't even the better single. Crazy in Love assured Beyonce's relevance as a solo artist in the place of Destiny's Child. SL is just a good single - which has already lost it's legs, for what it's worth.
Agree. Int'l Players Anthem Should be waaaay higher. Can't believe that's below fucking Hot Chip. Seriously. Love that Big Pimpin' is up there, though.Lambtron said:
And Pfork have been DFA dickriding since the dawn of time. This is nothing new.
LOL.BrandNew said:
Corwood Rep
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Peru said:
But the dude's right. If you think Rihanna's ever written anything as good as this shit, I can't really understand:
Aristotlekh said:
Rihanna didn't write "Umbrella". It's ludicrous to discuss the differences between those songs on the basis of their lyrics, it's like saying Miles Davis' 'In a Silent Way" isn't as good because its lyrics aren't as thrilling. "Umbrella" isn't about telling a story, which is what The French Inhaler does, it's about mood and texture. Anyway I don't care about Zevon one way or another, it was just a fitting example because he's used much in a particular way in these arguments.. "BUT WHAT ABOUT [Insert singer songwriter].. THAT'S REAAAAAAAAL MUSIC, REAAAAAL INSTRUMENTS, REAAAAL LYRICS". Elevating authenticity for a self-congratulatory effect. Zevon was a good enough guy, it's some of his fans I really detest. Same with Johnny Cash or whoever attracts these "pure, honest music" fans.
ItAintEasyBeinCheesy
it's 4th of July in my asshole
12. OutKast "Hey Ya!"
11. Gnarls Barkley "Crazy"
5. Daft Punk "One More Time"
I've heard these songs.
11. Gnarls Barkley "Crazy"
5. Daft Punk "One More Time"
I've heard these songs.
ItAintEasyBeinCheesy
it's 4th of July in my asshole
I skip on the radio, like with TV, something shit is on, BAM, switch.
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They wouldn't bother pointing out that you're stating a very controversial, ignorant opinion as fact. They'd just laugh at you.Peru said:
Let me explain something: Umbrella was not written to be an insightful, good song. It was written to be a 4/4 time generic pop song with incredibly catchy beats and vocals. In this, it succeeded very well. It's up to you if being catchy and pushed on every radio station and billboard known to man makes a song good. Yes, I'm accusing every modern pop song of Payola, because it's goddamn true. The industry, as it stands, is far more about personal connections to higher-ups in the industry and looks than it is about music. Umbrella is a reflection of this fact. It's a good song, but, unlike the classic artists you're claiming as strictly inferior to it, it would not have survived if Rhianna didn't know people.
In the end, music is opinion anyways. You're stating yours as an absolute fact, which is something you should avoid.
EDIT: Crap. Forgot my smilies.
Lucario said:
This is too ridiculous to take seriously. First off, I know a lot of people with a higher education in music, both performing artists and purely theoretical academics. One thing I've learned is that those who become intimately aquainted with the CRAFT of making a song are the ones who often appreciate these wildly popular hits the most. The good ones, that is. There's so much finesse going into it. Look, buddy, I went through a phase of hating everything that touched the charts when I was 15-16, it's part of growing up. You get over it and start appreciating the music and artistry for what it is.
"Yes, I'm accusing every modern pop song of Payola, because it's goddamn true."
Are you for real? A lot of poor shit has been pushed to high heavens in terms of PR campaigns and money behind it, and still flops. There's no connection between "sales=quality" as much as there's no connection between sales=shit. "Every modern pop song", as you lump 'em together, includes many of the greatest classics ever made, and continues to get made. Your quite shocking discrimination of everyone making 'pop' / everything that's unlucky enough to enter the charts, shows such a low level of insight into the artists' work process and the writers who slave their whole lives to make what they love. Sometimes they get a big hit, some never do and still continue making it. I won't have any of your dumbass cuntery blanket dismissal of the many pop auteurs out there giving everything they've got for the music.
Spoken by someone with absolutely no knowledge of the industry, of 'Umbrella', of music. Shut up before you embarass yourself further.
Dumbest argument out there. I state my opinions as my opinions. I don't need to put "IN MY OPINION" after everything I say. But you sure as hell feel high and mighty about your poorly thought through word vomit.
kitchenmotors
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... Wait, people are trying to argue that Umbrella is actually a well written song?
:lol
:lol
kitchenmotors
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Peru said:
Look, buddy, I went through a phase of loving everything that touched the charts when I was 8-15, it's a part of growing up. You get over it and start appreciating the music and artistry for what it is.
Which is why I rarely listen to anything that touches the charts, because most of it is manufactured by the industry.
Fyodor Dostoevsky
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First of all, I don't know how one creates a fucking top 500 list. I mean, I cringe when I see top-10, 20, 30, even 50 lists. But 500 is so absurd that it works. You can't really be serious until you get to around 50 or so...that's probably when the guy started really putting thought into it.
That said, this list is awesome. I don't know if it's all perfectly in order, or even partially correct, since I don't normally rank my music, but I fucking love that they let you stream the tracks. Say what you will about Pitchfork, that's an amazing service.
Going through it, it's kind of weird to see what came out in the early 00s. For some reason, when I see that Geogaddi came out in 2002, it throws me for a loop. :lol Maybe it's because a lot of the more underground stuff that came out around that time still hasn't been caught up with.
That said, this list is awesome. I don't know if it's all perfectly in order, or even partially correct, since I don't normally rank my music, but I fucking love that they let you stream the tracks. Say what you will about Pitchfork, that's an amazing service.
Going through it, it's kind of weird to see what came out in the early 00s. For some reason, when I see that Geogaddi came out in 2002, it throws me for a loop. :lol Maybe it's because a lot of the more underground stuff that came out around that time still hasn't been caught up with.
SonicMegaDrive
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Amazing. I actually saw a song on there that I enjoy listening to. In the top 10, even.
ViperVisor
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Problem isn't something being "Manufactured". Almost everything since forever has been to a degree.
It is the clusterfuck way that it is that's the problem. Everything has writers and producers out the wazoo.
My anger is more focused and hotter than most of the discussion here. I am a appreciator of R&B and the more hip hop sorta flavor of the late 80s - 90s. That has more or less be eated by the chase for rap hip hop.
And rap is just utter shit most of the time nowadays.
I only passively see/hear most of the current stuff. But I watched the BET Awards due to MJ intrigue. It sucked.
The hype for the bullshit that is D.O.A. (Death of Auto-Tune). Fuck me. A goddamn rapper saying he trying to "draw a line in the sand" for music quality. That is a larf.
And the equally retarded hype for Drake. Recent Rolling Stone I was going through said his sound is 'Lil Wayne style with Kanye's soft side'. Is that supposed to be a complement?
It is the clusterfuck way that it is that's the problem. Everything has writers and producers out the wazoo.
My anger is more focused and hotter than most of the discussion here. I am a appreciator of R&B and the more hip hop sorta flavor of the late 80s - 90s. That has more or less be eated by the chase for rap hip hop.
And rap is just utter shit most of the time nowadays.
I only passively see/hear most of the current stuff. But I watched the BET Awards due to MJ intrigue. It sucked.
The hype for the bullshit that is D.O.A. (Death of Auto-Tune). Fuck me. A goddamn rapper saying he trying to "draw a line in the sand" for music quality. That is a larf.
And the equally retarded hype for Drake. Recent Rolling Stone I was going through said his sound is 'Lil Wayne style with Kanye's soft side'. Is that supposed to be a complement?
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