I doubt anyone will complain about the deviation. The idea was good but the execution was meh. The movie sounds way more appealing than the book.
Place your bets: Batman v Superman vs Civil War vs Rogue One
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I doubt anyone will complain about the deviation. The idea was good but the execution was meh. The movie sounds way more appealing than the book.
Here's a good one... what film will do better? Suicide Squad or Dr. Strange. I'm going SS.
Naughty_Doge
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Cvil War
Rogue One
Probably Civil War because of Spider-Man.
Not BvS, that's for sure.
Excuse me.
But if there's anything decades of cinema have showed me, it's that for Batman v Superman to actually work, we required several two hour movies explaining Alfred's military background, Luthor's romance with that Kyrptonian AI, why Wonder Woman has such a terrible day job, and why this Batman abandoned Catwoman in Europe.
All incredibly important questions. We need to really dig deep to bring out the essence.
I haven't a clue about the Raid 2, so I have no idea what you're trying to say. Sorry.
How am I dismissing the intelligence of the audience when what I'm suggesting is that what's been portrayed in prior films runs counter to what's been shown in the trailers? It isn't the general public's fault that the folks in charge of marketing are dumbasses. You're commenting on the actual film itself, but my criticism has very, very little to do with that.
Squad has a new Joker and the first live action Harley who has a grown a rather large following recently. Dr. Strange is an unknown to the general public where it's only drive is being a part of the MCU. Squad will likely do better.
Civil War > Rogue One > BvS in terms of sales, but Civil War will only eek out the top BO.
Civil War will also have the highest critical acclaim out of the three, with BvS being at the bottom of the barrel.
I'll see Rogue One first over Civil War because I'm more a fan of Star Wars than Marvel.
GAF will like Rogue One more, probably due to conflict over how the Civil War story will be told.
Civil War will also have the highest critical acclaim out of the three, with BvS being at the bottom of the barrel.
I'll see Rogue One first over Civil War because I'm more a fan of Star Wars than Marvel.
GAF will like Rogue One more, probably due to conflict over how the Civil War story will be told.
BadAss2961
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Pai Pai Master
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That's not even fair. The Joker, Harley Quinn and Will Smith up against a relatively unknown character.
Were you surprised over ten years ago when Spider-Man and Harry Potter performed better?
That must have been really shocking.
BronsonLee
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Rogue One is interesting to me. It definitely feels like Disney's way to kind of Trojan Horse a super interesting concept into the Star Wars brand, kind of like when Assassin's Creed snuck that pirate shit in.
Either way, Donnie Yen's in it, so it's gonna blow the fuck out in China
Beyond that, I don't care
Either way, Donnie Yen's in it, so it's gonna blow the fuck out in China
Beyond that, I don't care
they're pushing the cap vs iron man angle hard and iron man is a big deal at the box office. throw in practically all of the avengers, AND spider-man, it could reach avengers money
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Lord Virgin
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Cool, so there is a Catwoman reference in the movie? Good to know!
He's not that big of a deal. I think Iron Man 3's numbers mess a lot of people up. Cap (or Evans really) has really started to push him to the side.
FTFY
I think exactly the same
Poodlestrike
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Squad, no question. It's got novelty on its side, plus Harley, plus Joker, plus Will Smith, who isn't the BO draw he used to be but still has some pull.
I mean, what happened to Catwoman? Last we saw Batman, he was with her. He'd retired, and killed himself in Gotham, but now all of a sudden, he's not retired, and he's been in Gotham all along. Do you think people will be able to reconcile these differences?
Do you think they'll notice it's a different actor? They're both white, so maybe not, but I'm just pondering the important questions here.
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Oh, I'm sorry. I forgot there had been six shit movies prior to this one. That does definitely change things. Are you surprised that a movie about blue aliens and a love story about teenagers still remain the biggest movies of all time though?
That must be really shocking. I blame the kids.
so we just discount iron man 3 because reasons?
Indeed. The starpower alone is on another level with SS. Plus Doctor Strange's hype is going to be cannibalized by another magical movie - the Harry Potter prequel.
Poodlestrike
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It's more because it was coming off of Avengers, at the absolute height of MCU mania than it is because "reasons." It isn't particularly well remembered, from what I've seen.
Inferno313
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Downey as Iron Man IS a huge draw, and WILL boost Civil War's numbers, but Iron Man 3's box office has just as much, if not more, to do with the fact that it was the first MCU film after The Avengers and released less than a year later. Marvel Hype was at an all-time high after The Avengers.
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Lord Virgin
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Damn, for a moment I thought they made a Catwoman reference in the movie
Ohh well, Bruce got bored of the sex, "killed" himself, changed his face (and body) and went back to Gotham. Boom.
Would you be surprised?
Would any of us be surprised?
Has Batgirl/Oracle leaked? If not, that one wouldn't surprise me, either. We're going to fill this solid gold kitchen sink with all sorts of shit, see? Then you guys will have to pay attention to us!
I didn't say discount it. You got a bad habit of taking any meaning at its absolute worst. Iron Man 3's B.O. numbers had less to do with Iron Man than it had to do with being the first post-Avengers movie while the hype was at its peak. That doesn't mean Iron Man is no longer a selling point. I just said he's not as big as he once was.
BronsonLee
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It's probably the best Iron Man movie IMO
Maybe Catwoman was so mad, she left Bruce with some scars. Emotional ones. Since we know Batman is very emotional.Damn, for a moment I thought they made a Catwoman reference in the movie
Ohh well, Bruce got bored of the sex, "killed" himself, changed his face (and body) and went back to Gotham. Boom.
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Lord Virgin
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Cry me a river, we get it you don't like it already. Boohoo
Maybe she is happy with Bane somewhere in Italy. Hope they are doing well.
We can not be friends.
I will never stop screaming about how awful Iron Man 3 was. I'd rather sit through The Dark World and nothing but for a week straight than see IM3 again.
Maybe next time
Damn you!! FIGHT!
Inferno313
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Actually, yes, it sounds like Jena Malone's role is a brief appearance as Barbra, most likely as Oracle.
If you think having too many references is what makes or breaks a film then you must HATE The Lego Movie.
hey fair enough
Poodlestrike
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Nah, no way. IM1>IM3>IM2.
Well, now you're hurt my feelings. I thought we were discussing BO performance and critical reception, not acting like jackasses and making comments that add nothing to the conversation.
Now that I know you were genuinely looking forward to a Catwoman appearance, though, I think I'm going to make a wish on a star tonight that it's Julie Newmar in the role, wearing Halle Berry's suit from the movie. No CG.
We'll see who's boohooing soon enough.
So is the basis for comparison that Batman is in both? Because otherwise, i think that's one of the more odd comparisons I've heard. I'll ignore your "too many" reference since you answer your own questions there, really, but do I think a production can be hampered by tossing in a bunch of unnecessary shit?
Yes. Yes I do.
BadAss2961
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1>2>3.
I'm still on the theory that IM3 was a test to see just how bad Marvel could make a film and get away with it.
Cross-Section
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Which film will be the highest grossing at the box office?
Rogue One's the easy pick, but the fact of it being a spin-off with naturally-less audience awareness may make the BO fight between it and CW a contentious one.
Which film will receive the highest critical acclaim?
Civil War. I've doubts about Gareth Edwards being able to pull off a movie at the very least on the same level as TFA, and the buzz on CW is just too abundantly-good.
If they were all released on the same day, which would you go see first?
I'm a total sucker for Star Wars, so Rogue One.
Which film will be the best received by GAF?
Civil War, given how well Winter Soldier was received here in comparison to TFA. Regarding RO, I have a good feeling that we'll see a return of the "lol nostalgic crap" criticism that was so abundant immediately following TFA's release, given how clear the ties are to ANH with this one.
BvS is harder to guess for any of these questions, but I've a feeling that it'll be better (though not quite as good as Civil War) than we're expecting it to be.
Rogue One's the easy pick, but the fact of it being a spin-off with naturally-less audience awareness may make the BO fight between it and CW a contentious one.
Which film will receive the highest critical acclaim?
Civil War. I've doubts about Gareth Edwards being able to pull off a movie at the very least on the same level as TFA, and the buzz on CW is just too abundantly-good.
If they were all released on the same day, which would you go see first?
I'm a total sucker for Star Wars, so Rogue One.
Which film will be the best received by GAF?
Civil War, given how well Winter Soldier was received here in comparison to TFA. Regarding RO, I have a good feeling that we'll see a return of the "lol nostalgic crap" criticism that was so abundant immediately following TFA's release, given how clear the ties are to ANH with this one.
BvS is harder to guess for any of these questions, but I've a feeling that it'll be better (though not quite as good as Civil War) than we're expecting it to be.
I'm just wondering what exactly you mean. The prior films - TDK trilogy? Or just Man of Steel? And how does it run counter to BvS's marketing?
I brought up the Raid 2 because it's a prime example of a film the enlarged the world of the first - which was a claustrophobic action flick. Its only shared thread between the two was the protagonist. The Raid 2 is not only a good action film, it's an amazing crime thriller.
Raid 2 introduced an anti-hero, an antagonist, three sub villains, three crime families, a foil, the mentor, a few red herrings, and hell of a lot more in 150 minutes. Time and time again, people look to the Marvel method, of creating "agency" as you will, but as good movies prove - every year - it's just not true.
LegendofDragoonLives
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Damn WS getting blindsided below all the movies that it's better than them.
I primarily read DC comics but the civil war book is one of the few marvel series i really, really love. It's easily my most anticipated comic book movie ever.
BronsonLee
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Man, that really su-*steel chair to the back*
Seph you gotta back my play, man
I'm not too married to the idea; I could go with that ranking pretty easily. IM2 is SO bad.
flaxknuckles
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I concur. Iron Man 2 was shithouse.
[GAF Favorite - Civil War
This whole place is full of Marvel fanboys anyway
There was this huge New Avengers Hickman thread a while back.
Tried to find the Justice League Geoff Johns thread...there wasn't one
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Lord Virgin
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Funny, since you've been doing both. And no, I am not looking forward to a Catwoman appearance, save that for the Batman movie. But he has seen the movie and I thought he was dropping hints about what we might see in the movie. A reference to Bruce leaving Catwoman behind in Europe sounded cool, that is all.
There was this huge New Avengers Hickman thread a while back.
Tried to find the Justice League Geoff Johns thread...there wasn't one
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BronsonLee
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We busy watching Flash and Legends of Tomorrow, b
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