Place your bets: Batman v Superman vs Civil War vs Rogue One

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Which film will be the highest grossing at the box office?

Batman vs Superman

Which film will receive the highest critical acclaim?

Civil War

If they were all released on the same day, which would you go see first?

Batman vs Superman

Which film will be the best received by GAF?

Civil War


I'm a bigger Star Wars fan than Marvel or DC, but Rogue One's focus on the Death Star is extremely concerning. That horse has been beaten completely to death, so its going to have to climb an uphill battle to win over hearts.
 
3N16MA said:
I didn't forget Dory or Fantastic Beasts. I decided to choose the three films which are most likely going to be the biggest here on GAF in 2016.
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I think those two and... ID 4... 2 are wildcards

Like I mean it has potential if it hits the right nostalgic bone!
 
Inferno313 said:
IM3 made 1.2 Billion because it was a related film that was released immediately after The Avengers.

AOU made 1.4 Billion because it was the direct sequel to the Avengers, and fell slightly short of projections because it's WoM and reviews were weaker than the first film, that's something that could affect Civil War.
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Interesting theory, but like I said, Civil War is basically another Avengers movie, so I expect it do closer to Avengers numbers than anything else. All it's missing is... Hulk and Thor. And the Avengers name in the title. In turn, it gets:

-The Russo brothers, which will likely result in a fantastic movie, a high RT score, and positive word of mouth (things Age of Ultron lacked)

-Captain America fighting Iron Man, which is an infinitely more interesting conflict and story than... the Avengers fighting some robot dude named Ultron

-SPIDER-MAN

Downplay the graph all you want, but the fact is Spider-Man is still the biggest Marvel superhero, or at least a top tier Marvel superhero. His involvement with this film is HUGE. Once that teaser comes out and Iron Man, Cap and Spider-Man are on the screen at the same time, hype will be massive.

Or I'm completely wrong, the Russo bros drop the ball, the film is received like shit, and they barely market Spidey being in the film and it does less than Iron Man 3. I doubt it, but who knows!
 
Penguin said:
I think those two and... ID 4... 2 are wildcards

Like I mean it has potential if it hits the right nostalgic bone!
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Independence Day 2 would be a much bigger dark horse if it had Will Smith on board, in my opinion. I could be wrong but I don't see this being a surprise on the same level of Jurassic World.
 
I have a very hard time seeing Fantastic Beasts in the race domestically. Potter was never all that big domestically outside of the first and last film.

Overseas is a bit of a wildcard, but as a spin-off, I don't even know if $1B is all that probable. I think all three films in the thread title will hit the $1B mark worldwide.
 
Penguin said:
I think those two and... ID 4... 2 are wildcards

Like I mean it has potential if it hits the right nostalgic bone!
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I think the best ID4:2 can get is lower half of the top 10. Even if it does hit the right nostalgic bone, I don't think people's nostalgia for the original is anywhere near something like Jurassic Park, which allowed Jurassic World to get so high.
 
BadAss2961 said:
Civil War is like Mitt Romney. Fans didn't even want this adaptation. They're just rolling with it because it got nominated.
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suuuure....so wheere did you get that from? been reading comics for 25 years...all my friends discussions in the last 7-7 years on mcu movies were about how cool a civil war movie would be :s
 
The Fantastic Beasts trailer came and went without making a dent. The hype cycle for that movie might get swallowed up by Rogue One similar to the way Mockingjay's hype got crushed by the Force Awakens news cycle.
 
Anth0ny said:
Interesting theory, but like I said, Civil War is basically another Avengers movie, so I expect it do closer to Avengers numbers than anything else. All it's missing is... Hulk and Thor. And the Avengers name in the title. In turn, it gets:

-The Russo brothers, which will likely result in a fantastic movie, a high RT score, and positive word of mouth (things Age of Ultron lacked)

-Captain America fighting Iron Man, which is an infinitely more interesting conflict and story than... the Avengers fighting some robot dude named Ultron

-SPIDER-MAN

Downplay the graph all you want, but the fact is Spider-Man is still the biggest Marvel superhero, or at least a top tier Marvel superhero. His involvement with this film is HUGE. Once that teaser comes out and Iron Man, Cap and Spider-Man are on the screen at the same time, hype will be massive.

Or I'm completely wrong, the Russo bros drop the ball, the film is received like shit, and they barely market Spidey being in the film and it does less than Iron Man 3. I doubt it, but who knows!
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I would downplay the graph; we should question everything. This is the age of misinformation. I've worked in PR and we do this, all the time.

Spider-Man is huge. No doubt. But let's not pretend he's stronger than the Avengers brand, or Batman, or Transformers, or most other blockbusters.

Man of Steel sold the same amount of DVDs and BluRays as Amazing Spiderman 1, which had a full year head start. Jurassic World sold more in its home release than the last two Spider-Man movies, combined.
 
Anth0ny said:
-Captain America fighting Iron Man, which is an infinitely more interesting conflict and story than... the Avengers fighting some robot dude named Ultron
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Uhm, it depends on the writing to make characters interesting.

Downplay the graph all you want, but the fact is Spider-Man is still the biggest Marvel superhero, or at least a top tier Marvel superhero. His involvement with this film is HUGE. Once that teaser comes out and Iron Man, Cap and Spider-Man are on the screen at the same time, hype will be massive.
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Again, it all depends on the writing and the screenplay. Spider-Man 3 was a a shit stain of a film for example.

Or I'm completely wrong, the Russo bros drop the ball, the film is received like shit, and they barely market Spidey being in the film and it does less than Iron Man 3. I doubt it, but who knows!
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No one is infallible. Not even the Russo brothers.
 
When did the Russo brothers become top tier directors? Winter Soldier is enjoyable but on my 2nd viewing it wasn't THAT great.
 
Rogue One highest grossing and best recieved critically. Gaf will like Rogue One best and I would see Civil War first.
 
Cooter said:
When did the Russo brothers become top tier directors? Winter Soldier is enjoyable but on my 2nd viewing it wasn't THAT great.
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On my first viewing it wasn't. It was boring as fuck.

Box office I feel Batman V Superman will make the most because of the hype for the start of the DC movie universe. Then Civil War because of Iron Man and Spidey, then Rogue One because all it will have is Vader.

I give Rogue the number one for quality, then BvS because of the visuals and action that's sure to be god-tier, and then Civil War because it's gonna be boring af.

I'd see BvS first because I'm super hyped to see Superman, one of my favorite superheros, flatline Batman's goober ass, then Rogue One even though I am indifferent to Star Wars, then Civil War because I actively dislike most Marvel movies not named Iron Man.

The film best received on Gaf will most def be Rogue One. Gaf has people who poop on both DC and Marvel movies but I rarely see any shade thrown at The Force Awakens.
 
Chamber said:
The Fantastic Beasts trailer came and went without making a dent. The hype cycle for that movie might get swallowed up by Rogue One similar to the way Mockingjay's hype got crushed by the Force Awakens news cycle.
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That shit wasn't a goddamn trailer

And there are many reasons Mockingjay petered out, fucking TFA ain't one of em
 
I'm wondering at what point less than X dollars will the BO be considered a disappointment for each studio. Look at ASM2. It still made a lot of money, and yet was still considered a disappointment in the BO.
 
Cooter said:
When did the Russo brothers become top tier directors? Winter Soldier is enjoyable but on my 2nd viewing it wasn't THAT great.
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When they had one better than average Marvel film, apparently. Winter Soldier was awesome, but it didn't elevate the Russo brothers into the status of which some people here suggest.
 
Cooter said:
When did the Russo brothers become top tier directors? Winter Soldier is enjoyable but on my 2nd viewing it wasn't THAT great.
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They are nowhere close to being top tier directors but given the poor quality of the rest of the MCU movies their first attempt was definitely better than the rest.
 
You know what, that's a hard call to make. They're all wildcards in certain respects.

BvS has the higher potential to fail, if only because it doesn't have quite the backlog star Wars and Marvel have at the moment. Man of Steel did good, not great, not to mention the critical divisiveness.

Its really just up to whether the people are into it or not. Curious to see how it's recieved.

Civil War is weird because it's kind of in that space between "just another Captain America movie" and "a big Avengers crossover". Makes you wonder if it'll do numbers closer to Captain America or Avengers then. I'd guess the former, but we'll see. Probably will do great either way though.

And Roque One? It'll do fine opening, we just don't know how Star Wars anthology will perform. I would not underestimate Star Wars though. Depends on how the movie is really.
 
kurahador said:
I think you guys need to see the writing team for Rogue One before brushing off BvS and Civil War for critical acclaim.
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How many times has the script been passed around? We started with Whitta, once upon a time, it changed hands a bunch (right?), and I think McQuarrie recently doctored it? Yeah, I don't know, man. And I can't say that Gareth Edwards has me brimming with confidence.
 
Cooter said:
When did the Russo brothers become top tier directors? Winter Soldier is enjoyable but on my 2nd viewing it wasn't THAT great.
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They aren't. Not even close to it yet lol. Let's see them do this and then do it another 6 times in a row.

Edwards has had one big film (which I didn't like) and Russo's have one one good film and one terrible one before that (You, Me, Dupree). Very very small sample size... doubt it happens to the big Marvel/Star Wars movies that will have such a huge hand guiding anyone that comes near it's properties it'll be hard to distinguish where the director comes in and where the creative team deserves credit.
 
Nope. Sorry. Not this time.

No stupid-looking quote on someone's wall of shame in January 2017 for me
 
Not said:
Nope. Sorry. Not this time.

No stupid-looking quote on someone's wall of shame in January 2017 for me
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Eh-these three movies are all going to be huge-I don't think there's any climbing out on limbs here. Now if you said something like Gods of Egypt would be huge....
 
Which film will be the highest grossing at the box office?
Rogue One

I can't see BvS having the quality for people to watch it multiple times, or to draw in the international audiences, for it to dominate the boxoffice. I'd guess it will fall last place of the tree in both domestic and international.

Which film will receive the highest critical acclaim?
Civil War

If they were all released on the same day, which would you go see first?
Civil War (only because it will contain more MCU spoilers, otherwise I'd watch Rogue One first).

Which film will be the best received by GAF?
Rogue One (folks views on MCU films are pretty much set already, regardless of the actual movies)
 
y2dvd said:
I'm wondering at what point less than X dollars will the BO be considered a disappointment for each studio. Look at ASM2. It still made a lot of money, and yet was still considered a disappointment in the BO.
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I'm guessing for BvS they are hoping for TDK & TDKR numbers. A billion for a start would be impressive.

Civil War is hard to place. They obviously want more than TWS. It almost feels like an avengers movie as well. i think a billion would be impressive for this as well.

Rouge one will be an experiment for Disney. I doubt they expect TFA numbers.
 
Senoculum said:
I'm curious why you think BvS is stuffed, but not Star Wars 7, or Rogue One (consider that it's an entirely new cast; with new - multiple - villains, and new worlds...). I felt Rey and Finn were well established, the plot was tightly knit involving all the major players in almost every scene, and with the heavy handed hinting of a larger tale... it was still a great experience. I suspect you've made up your mind before even watching the final film, and not giving it the benefit of the doubt. I mean, we're not talking about Seventh Son here, or Wrath of the Titans, or the limp looking X-Men Apocalypse. The film is going to be good; great, even.

And Disney isn't marketing Rogue One because it doesn't want to compete with the mind share of Deadpool, BvS, its own Jungle Book, and the upcoming Civil War. Avatar only had 3.5 months of advertising and marketing for example. Not every SW flick needs the Force Awakens treatment...
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For one, I never said I didn't think either of them were stuffed, bit of a strawman argument there. That being pointed out, I don't think TFA was, and I frankly don't follow behind the scenes/rumored/unofficial information prior to movie releases, so I know little to nothing about Rogue One, except the basic plot premise and can't speak to that movie.

As to why I don't think TFA was, it pretty much rehashed the OG trilogy and they only really introduced 3 main characters, Finn, who was a blank slate, Kylo, who was well explained, and Rey, who was left mostly unexplained for intrigue. Snoke, Poe, Maz, Phasma, and others were really just supporting characters in TFA and didn't get much focus (for now). Most of the lore and ideas present were already introduced in the other films, and catching up with the existing characters was done quite quickly and to a shallow extent. The worlds don't really contribute to being stuffed since they don't need exposition in the Star Wars universe, in every film they've just kind of been there and you find out what kind of place it is via the events that occur there.

While I can see how you could interpret my "test the waters/die" statement as predicting it will be bad, I meant it more in the capacity of a lack of marketing will hurt its sales. I don't think it will be bad, I'm just suspicious of the lack of marketing after the huge TFA push, and think that it won't sell as well, or be as acclaimed as Civil War.

Hell, you probably won't even see this post, but whatever.
 
Mushroomer25 said:
A week ago, I'd have said BvS in a distant third. Now after the Fandango stuff? I'm a bit more hesitant to pull the trigger. Overall, I think this is a way closer race than last year. Everyone knew Star Wars was gonna kill it. But here? Anything kinda goes.
All estimated values here are domestic, BTW.


3. Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice
As mentioned, presale numbers are exciting. But ultimately DC is still just launching this iteration of the characters, MoS doesn't have a ton of pull, and people are overall questioning the quality. Reviews are going to be a serious modifier here. I'd even go as far to say that if the film's RT score is below 60%, deduct $15M from the opening. But if it's above 90%, add $10M.
OW: $170M
Total: $500M
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Ignoring my RT modifiers, nailed it. This bodes well for Civil War.
 
Does anyone have that "Force Awakens Box Office" image where the guy posted "Wait till March 25. Then we'll talk."?





BadAss2961 said:
No idea about Rogue One, but Batman v Superman will expose the MCU for the rinky-dink operation it is.

A portion of GAF will be flustered by this, but ultimately give in after Suicide Squad release, which will end up the most liked here.
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Vault Dweller 111 said:
Highest grossing:
Rouge One>Civil War>BvS

Best reviews:
Civil War>Rogue One>>BvS

I'd see first:
Rogue One>>Civil War>>>BvS

Gaf reaction:
Rogue One>>Civil War>>>>>>BvS

I'll see all three opening night.
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So far so good.
Vault Dweller 111 said:
I do think it's possible (likely) that all three end up in the top 10-15 all time at the box office.

I mean, just last year JW, TFA, and AoU all got in the top 7.
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Oh...
 
CloudWolf said:
Civil War will not win worldwide, that will be between Batman vs Superman and Rogue One. You do realize that Marvel movies aren't very popular outside the US, right? The only way I could see Civil War getting that popular is if they decide to market Spidey hard the coming months, as if he was the main character.
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So funny to read comments like these now.

Civil War is gonna trample BvS in reviews and sales.

I have no idea bout Rogue One.
 
clay_ghost said:
Did anyone expect BvS to perform as it did?
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The critical reception and word-of-mouth being as bad as it was came as kind of a huge shock. I think the worst people realistically expected was that it would be kinda convoluted and a bit too dour for its own good. The reaction it got was drastically harsher, and that no doubt hurt its legs.
 
Her7yn said:
Based on its current momentum, I feel BvS will end up at a little over $900mil. It's currently at $827mil.
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BvS would basically need a miracle to hit $900 million. It's open everywhere, and it's losing steam at a ridiculous rate. Competition has started to come in, and Jungle Book just killed it dead. Worse off, it's losing theaters, which means even less money.

It'll end up slightly north of $850 million.
 
It's just amazing to read the posts in this thread.

Everyone was assuming BvS would break a billion easy, and some thought it would be the best grossing of the year.
 
Which film will be the highest grossing at the box office?

Rogue One

Which film will receive the highest critical acclaim?

Civil War

If they were all released on the same day, which would you go see first?

Civil War

Which film will be the best received by GAF?

Civil War
 
BadAss2961 said:
No idea about Rogue One, but Batman v Superman will expose the MCU for the rinky-dink operation it is.

A portion of GAF will be flustered by this, but ultimately give in after Suicide Squad release, which will end up the most liked here.
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Let this be a reminder to everyone, never go full fanboy.
 
Arnie7 said:
Reviews:
1. Batman vs Superman (best reviewed superhero film since The Dark Knight)
2. Civil War ( Best reviewed marvel film)
3. Rouge One (Disappointing)

Box Office:
1. Civil War ~ 1.2bn
2. BvS ~ 1bn
3. Rouge One ~ 800m
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I love reading these threads.
 
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