Place your bets. Do you think people will be confused by Switch 2?
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MiguelItUp
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Some grandparents and parents could get the wrong one. But other than that I think it'll be fine for the majority.
LordOcidax
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Not comparing, just telling how the mass market works.
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Buggy Loop
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The peoples who would be confused by this..
Retards
Retards
BlackTron
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We will see, but the only new first party game that I'm aware of that is still possible on Switch 1 is Metroid 4. Of course, it hasn't even launched yet, there will be more Switch 2 exclusive games.
Also I thought Switch 2 would make possible all sorts of Series S grade titles that were a bit too rich for the Switch 1? I would put it in a whole different class of hardware. Just like every gen new exclusive games should end up being the main driver...while they continue to throw a few bones to the 150m old NS1s
kaizenkko
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Consoles don't appeal to "mass market". In the first week iPhone 16 sold more than 30 million units. You can never compare this to any console.
kaizenkko
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I'm not sure that Switch 2 will receive the majority of third-party games like people are wondering. There's a really weak CPU in that device and right now most games aren't even announced for Switch 2.
There's a lot of already announce third-party games that have not been reveal for Switch 2. People are thinking too much about Cyberpunk how it can be a type of signal, but CDPR is only a exception, in the same way that they have port Witcher 3 for Switch.
LordOcidax
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I didn't say is a big as the Iphone
… And how you sell 150+ Million without the mass market appeal?
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BlackTron
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If Witcher 3 was exception on Switch 1, and that system was a success, then why does Switch 2 need any more third party support than that anyway to be a success? All they would require are their own first party exclusive games.
poppabk
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I voted yes. People get confused by everything and others are deliberately obtuse.
kaizenkko
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Who is talking about that? lol
BlackTron
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kaizenkko
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"with high prices and economy in the current state, I doubt Switch 2 will get the 15 million mark of Nintendo"
That was my point. And I never talk about success.
BlackTron
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That's fair enough. The other point about games we will just brush under the rug. That's cool lol
Little Chicken
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No, the casual Switch user just won't care.
Just as with the Wii, they have their device and will see no reason to spend even more money get the next one.
Just as with the Wii, they have their device and will see no reason to spend even more money get the next one.
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kaizenkko
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I just answered to the other guy. I never said that I think Switch 2 will not reach Nintendo's goals for not having the majority of third-party games.
Gambit2483
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Their are some incredibly stupid people in this world so unfortunately, I'm sure a very small percentage may not immediately understand.
That said the large majority of people should see and recognize/understand what the "2" means easily.
That said the large majority of people should see and recognize/understand what the "2" means easily.
BlackTron
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Bookmark worthy post. A Switch 2 confusion thread spinning off into a prediction thread.
Plot twist: Switch 2 only sold so well because people planning to buy yet another Switch 1 were tricked by Nintendo into buying a 2 instead because of the confusing box. You guys get that one for free, you don't even have to credit me. In fact, don't
Pasta la Vista
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Now that I think about it, PS is the only console to ever use a sequential number.
Nintendo finally copying Sony for something?!!
killatopak
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nah.
Nintendo broke their naming code.
It isn't as novel as before though so people will buy it for the games they like and less about the Switch itself.
Nintendo broke their naming code.
It isn't as novel as before though so people will buy it for the games they like and less about the Switch itself.
LordOcidax
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Aenima
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Playstation 2 looked completely different than a Playstation 1, and they also used a different design language. The Switch 1 and 2 boxes look exactly the same just with a 2 in Switch 2 box. You can bet thers gonna be alot of switch 1 being sold to moms thinking they buying the new console. The name of the console is not the problem here, its the design language they are using that is exactly the same. Even the PS5 and PS5 digital only had completly different box colors.
Gambit2483
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They have their device....which won't play the latest and hottest Mario Kart all of their friends, family and internet is talking about.
These are the same people that upgrade new phones every single year for a camera that is slightly better...no?
Pasta la Vista
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You know what, I think there will be some confusion. Especially if they are selling the MK8 and MK World bundles like that... I mean the MK8 bundle looks more attractive where as the MK World bundle is just a sticker?
EDIT: and yes I think the boxes should have been different colors
EDIT: and yes I think the boxes should have been different colors
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FoxMcChief
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True. Same reason there's warning on plastic bags to not put them over your head.
Mister Wolf
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If you're walking through life with that little discernment then you deserve to lose your money.
Synless
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Yeah, they are locked up so people will just ask for the Switch 2 and be handed one, same as iPhones where they ask for the specific one.I think people already get used to similar packaging between generations
jshackles
Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the capability to make the world's first enhanced store. Steam will be that store. Better than it was before.
Several years ago (when the WiiU was confusing people) I was doing a professional wireless installation consultation for a local business.
Me: "We need to place a total of four wireless access points in your business"
Them: "Access points? Is that like a Wii?"
Me (doing a double take): "A what?"
Them: "You know, like a Nintendo Wii like my kids have, that's where the Wi-Fi comes from, right?"
Me (trying to hold it together and stay professional): "No, we do not need to install game consoles in your ceiling, what you need are dedicated devices for providing Wi-Fi"
These kinds of people will 100% be fooled by the name change from Switch to Switch 2.
Me: "We need to place a total of four wireless access points in your business"
Them: "Access points? Is that like a Wii?"
Me (doing a double take): "A what?"
Them: "You know, like a Nintendo Wii like my kids have, that's where the Wi-Fi comes from, right?"
Me (trying to hold it together and stay professional): "No, we do not need to install game consoles in your ceiling, what you need are dedicated devices for providing Wi-Fi"
These kinds of people will 100% be fooled by the name change from Switch to Switch 2.
crackajack
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I usually don't watch many ads for anything- and always wonder where the fucking money goes when I hear huge marketing budgets- but I saw one Switch2 ad recently and just thought their talking points were weak. Magnetic connection! Was that a problem or a big problem with Switch? You can use the controller as a mouse, showing no game. Videochat via an additional camera. And I think something about display bigger? Won't matter for the first wave of sales by the more informed and hyped people, many fanboys and -girls but that ad felt unconvincing and lackluster in showing the upgrade it should be.
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Sintoid
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Everything you say it's true but Switch 2 has Mario Kart and Switch 1 doesn't
We'll see if that's enough as a difference. Switch 1 opened the road to a wide audience that maybe now is interested more in Mario Kart than the new features (wich, once again, are weak except for the technical ones wich are almost unseen in TV Ads...)
Esppiral
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But not right behind the name.... And we all know the average IQ of the average consumer. Also the packaging and form factor is extremely similar I don't know what their marketing department was thinking.....
jshackles
Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the capability to make the world's first enhanced store. Steam will be that store. Better than it was before.
Well, Switch 1 has Mario Kart 8 Deluxe which sold gangbusters and got tons of DLC tracks. World will really need to stand out, because a lot of people are perfectly happy with just playing the old game.
diffusionx
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I am surprised they didnt change the color scheme the way Sony did, at least on the box, PSX gray -> PS2 blue -> PS3 black/white -> PS4 blue -> PS5 white/black
there are they are just duct taped together
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Sintoid
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I meant that If you want a new Mario Kart you're "forced" to buy Switch 2.. and that's why I told we'll see if that's enough (to start)
Gambit2483
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In reality, it's no different than PS5/XSX where when You buy a physical game you will STILL NEED physical space on your hard drive to actually play the game.
Unless the customer has never played on a PS5/Xbox series it's business as usual
Edit: Actually there were MANY physical Switch 1 games that also had this set up, i.e. mandatory downloads.
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Codes 208
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Between that and the price hikes, I dont think they have the high ground they think they have.
cireza
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So the vast majority of Nintendo customers actually.
Unknown?
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People ask for Mario on PlayStation at GameStop all the time. Parents who don't give a crap will see one is cheaper and looks EXACTLY the same.
They should have put the 2 by the words and not the logo, also something on the packaging that displays it's new like, "All New!" or something.
crackajack
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my point I kinda missed to make was that it felt almost like the 2 was hardly explained, if it really is something entirely new and not just like OLED another iteration of the same thing. 2 is an obvious number, but PS2, 3, 4, all looked actually different. Much clearer that those were new products. Even revisions of Playstations looked more different than Switch 2 does compared to Switch. Here it's a clear number, so no U nonsense, but could almost be interpreted like the VR1 version 2 thing which was for a niche product so went past the masses anyway. I guess most don't know the differences of original VR1 and VR1-2, and only the real VR2 looks different enough that people just get that it's a new thing. Switch2 has the same problem but must make people understand that it is new hardware and not just a new version of Switch. I doubt that can really cost sales, at worst some akward returns and replacements for the right gen of Switch will happen.
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