You can streamline lots of things that would make the game "feel better to play", but that doesn't mean it's the right thing to do. Either take away all loot animations or apply it to tab looting. This is PUBG not H1Z1, so I'm fine with it.
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PLAYERUNKNOWNS BATTLEGROUNDS Early Access Thread: This Is Battle Royale
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The game is built around animations, this is a fact. There are healing animations, reloading animations, soon climbing animations. You're just exploiting to get around the animations of the game. Is the same as if you found a exploit that skipped the healing period and allow you to heal instantly.
BleedOrange
Banned
We have implemented start auto-aim and bullet magnetism to lower-ranked players. We implemented this change to provide a fair gameplay environment to all players.
^ Sounds just as ridiculous in this context as well.
I'm not arguing about if it is or isn't exploit. I'm making argument that your argument of drag 'n drop having absolutely no skill to it is nonsensical.
Just like out of bounds exploits in Destiny 1 do take some skill to pull off. Not much, but you still need to know what you are doing and do it well.
Because it keeps fast paced games pace up and it's something everyone who experiments with the game even little bit can figure out.
At the end I will adjust to what ever devs do with it, but I just don't see messing with it as very meaningful change.
BleedOrange
Banned
Or you know, just keep it the way it is. Which seems to be working well so far: *checks Steam charts*.
Fun fact: steam charts will be even higher after this change.
BleedOrange
Banned
Would have been even higher without it.
No, it doesn't in the least. It's hilarious trying to equate aiming and dragging and dropping loot, seriously.
BleedOrange
Banned
Just as hilarious as I find arguments for making this change. In the end I guess we're getting nowhere. Some people will be cognizant of the change and will feel it's effects right away, others won't and will just be playing a clunkier game and not really understand why. They'll just be more apt to move on when something else comes along.
oh please
BleedOrange
Banned
What a low-energy response...
I mean, as long as we're making arguments that are impossible to refute. His argument was basically "Bluehole is incapable of making bad balance changes because 1 more person will buy this game after they do so!"
If that's truly what you think then I don't even know why I'm having this discussion.
What now? Timetraveler, or?
Common sense?
Also healing while underwater was taken out, all my 100s of hours wasted learning this game!! Might as well give everyone a I win button!
You think the idea that the game will be less popular because of this change deserves a "high energy response"? I don't.
paperspace
Member
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So... because of this single change / bug fix / exploit fix / whatever you want call it we will see noticeable increase in concurrent players?
Correlation does not imply causation
So many people also dont know that right clicking on a weapon attachment instantly equips it
Thanks for the advice
I think they meant that the game is going to keep selling after this change was made, not because of the change itself.
BleedOrange
Banned
It's common sense to believe the net effect of bad updates to the game is zero/nil?
Hell, there's complaints about the effects of an update enacted by Bluehole in last months update on the biggest forum for the game (Reddit), RIGHT NOW:
https://www.reddit.com/r/PUBATTLEGR...tary_island_circles_have_become_too_frequent/
This is directly attributable to this change in last months patch:
I'm certain I don't need to help you understand that it's common sense that negative posts like these, on highly popular discussion forums, have an effect on peoples longevity/loyalty with a game, or purchasing decisions about a game.
Bluehole is not infallible. They can make the wrong decision. And the outcome of those wrong decisions _does_ have an effect, whether you want to admit it or not.
More and more people will play the game, no matter if this exploit goes one way or the other, that's my point.
BleedOrange
Banned
I don't think it's any great insight to say that people will continue to buy the game after this change. Less of them will, for sure, had they not made it. And the people playing the clunkier game will be more likely to roll off of it when something like Destiny 2 comes out. It's not just about new sales, its about average concurrent users feeding into the economy, creating sustaining support for the devs to continue to work on the game.
Frozenprince
Banned
Lol yes drag looting without an animation. Truly the turning of the tide.
Do you hear yourself? You only ever post in this thread when this issue comes up. We get it, you hate it.
Tough titty. Games change. People bitch about everything. That's how game development works.
What on earth are you talking about? Am I reading the PUBG Reddit right now?
Frozenprince
Banned
Seriously lol
BleedOrange
Banned
Game is in Early Access yo. They're testing things. Stuff will end up changing multiple times. Best thing I can do is make my opinion heard. I'll certainly be posting it on the appropriate venues when the change goes live.
If you don't like it you can mute me.
Omg I had no idea this was an exploit as I just got the game 2 weeks ago. I always wondered why people drag and dropped on Twitch when i find Right Clicking significantly faster
tab looting delay is good, y'all are crazy
skill ceiling on looting lol
its like when they made the pistols in tf2 have the highest rate of fire when you just hold the button down. like do you really want your skill ceiling to be based on how fast you can mash (or knowing how to use a script)
skill ceiling on looting lol
its like when they made the pistols in tf2 have the highest rate of fire when you just hold the button down. like do you really want your skill ceiling to be based on how fast you can mash (or knowing how to use a script)
it's not an exploit
BleedOrange
Banned
You act like games aren't the sum of the multiple systems that make them up. Make negative changes to them each and you end up lowering the overall quality of the whole.
Forsaken82
Member
yes making a change that make sthe game more appealing to the masses has less affect on consumerbase than not changing it at all.
I assume your argument is that the game loses its purests in exchange for new blood, but there's going to be more new blood who don't give a shit joining the game than there will be hardcore purists who do give a shit and leave.
Frozenprince
Banned
It's a change that 95% of players won't even notice or care about. It's a quarter second added on to loot time.
The vast majority of the playerbase doesn't even know about this thing. And there is very little overlap between Destiny 2 audience and this.
And shit, why isn't there a mass exodus of people going to H1Z1 instead if "snappyness" matters so much to them?
It is. That's why it is getting patched.
It's an unintended consequence that gives players an advantage that's being patched out. That's like textbook exploit.
Huge Succeeded
Banned
no, I think Bread is just acting like you're overstating the impact that such a benign change will have on this game's perception. Not even the perception that players hold - the perception that potential buyers hold. And Bread would be right.
Frozenprince
Banned
And again, if you're only ever posting in here over this one specific issue. It's probably just because you are trying to be mad about it.
BleedOrange
Banned
I don't see how making a change that makes the game feel worse to play would 'make it more appealing to the masses'. In fact I'd wager it would do quite the opposite. Most popular PUBG streamers I watch expressed pretty negative sentiment about this change the last time they tested it. I'm sure they have a pretty outsize effect on the unwashed masses. Certainly moreso than we do here on GAF.
Frozenprince
Banned
Makes it feel worse to play for you. Do speak for me or anybody else here. I find drag looting to be no more efficient or fun than any other kind of looting.
Know what those streamers will do? Continue to play the game regardless.
If someone notable quits playing the game over such an insignificant change they're being childish.
No it's not, that's why they left in removing shadows because the players hitting the skill ceiling had the dexterity to type in some launch parameters - it wasn't an exploit either.
BleedOrange
Banned
I'm assuming you either weren't playing or didn't try it out on the Test Server the last time they tested this out.
Unless they changed the implementation drastically it was hot garbage.
When you nail down mouse movement and drop spot + timing then drag 'n drop is a lot faster way of looting. Loot flies.
Community sees it more as unintended feature than as full out exploit because this far BlueHole has done nothing to stop it and doesn't ban for it even when exploiting is supposed to get you banned.
how is it an advantage when everyone can easily do it
Frozenprince
Banned
To you. Why are you trying to act like you're objectively looking at it instead of just being mad they're removing something?