BleedOrange
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PLAYERUNKNOWNS BATTLEGROUNDS Early Access Thread: This Is Battle Royale
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You sure about that?
TheWorthyEdge
Member
Just read through the patch notes and adding a Vertical Foregrip to an SKS is actually huge. Thing is going to be a BEAST.
Croatoan
They/Them A-10 Warthog
I would not be surprised if tab looting got nerfed to uselessness. The game is being designed for consoles as well and there will be no tab looting on console. By removing it or making it useless on PC, that is one less thing to worry about balancing.
As a dev I would remove it entirely, but I tend to lean towards gamepad friendly shooters so I may be biased.
The only reason you need tab looting right now is the shitty clothes laying around everywhere covering stuff up. Remove the dumbass clothing loot and tab loot likely isn't even needed.
Clothing should also be removed from death crates. Why do I care about the fucking shirt a dude is wearing?
As a dev I would remove it entirely, but I tend to lean towards gamepad friendly shooters so I may be biased.
The only reason you need tab looting right now is the shitty clothes laying around everywhere covering stuff up. Remove the dumbass clothing loot and tab loot likely isn't even needed.
Clothing should also be removed from death crates. Why do I care about the fucking shirt a dude is wearing?
So are most exploits in all games, what's your point?
Frozenprince
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Yes? PUBG has been the #1-3 streamed game on twitch for months. It's not just going to have it's major players fuck off because of a minor technical alteration.
DrD isn't going to just not play anymore.
Huge Succeeded
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This minuscule change isn't going to keep the people interested in buying PUBG (the people with little to no reference point for what looting in PUBG was like before) from buying PUBG, and that's the argument people are getting hung up on at this point, for what it's worth.
I don't really care that you think the game plays worse as a result of this change, and I don't mean that flippantly, I mean it's fine by me. I genuinely agree, I've been dragging and dropping for a while. Due to the context of this discussion, though, I'm not throwing my weight behind that argument, but behind addressing a claim that just seems ridiculous on its face, to me.
BleedOrange
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Yeah you may wanna check Twitch when D2 comes out. Again, this is 1 change amongst many which can (and in my opinion, will) gradually degrade consumer loyalty to the game.
Sounds like you're hoping they fail.
Frozenprince
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Yes a mega hyped AAA blockbuster successor to a major AAA blockbuster will probably be popular
Shocking revelation that, well done you
How does it dumb down the game? This is a product that takes a number of mil-sim elements from prior games/BR mods based on those games, in what way does looting 10 items in a second align with that ethos?
Bandaging, painkillers, reviving all take significant duration. Why should looting be instant, exactly?
Battlegrounds will be overthrown by a shitty game that is nothing like it? And even if it is, you think that this change is what would make them change? LMAO
BleedOrange
Banned
No less shocking than the argument put forth that this change was a positive one 'because the Steam charts will continue going up' after it's implemented.
Fahzgoolin
Banned
I like PUBG. It's fun.
This thread is being a real drag.
This thread is being a real drag.
How cast iron pan stopping .338 Lapua Magnum round aligns with ArmA authenticity?
Or not having any animations for corpse looting, vehicle and door interactions?
Or having quite generous looting radius letting you pick up items that are few meters out?
BG has a lot silly if not straight our stupid meme things in it along with other things.
Good thing no one said that then.
You brought up Steam charts first with the implication that this change would hurt them!
Huge Succeeded
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good god lmao, are you even following this conversation? You keep claiming people are making arguments that they're not. It looks crazy.
I mean for starters, they're adding a bullet penetration system down the line, as well as animations for vehicle and door interactions. Just because it's an unfinished game doesn't mean they don't have a vision for what they want to accomplish.
Yep this thread is shit right now. I like fast and convenient drag looting also because looting sucks ass and I'd rather get it over with as quickly as possible. I don't think this change reduces skill. There will be still be skill in looting quickly. There's skill differences in F looting too, but people don't talk about it because no one uses it over tab looting. Hopefully it doesn't feel as bad as the patch a few months back. Making an already tedious part of the game more tedious doesn't make a lot of sense to me, but it's not going to make me quit the game. I could be the straw that breaks the camel's back for some but they were probably gonna quit anyway.
BleedOrange
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You certainly implied it.
Also this. What about putting attachments onto weapons as well? Should we have to wait for our character to attach that vertical foregrip onto our AR soon too? I mean, this game is BUILT AROUND animations right?
if they make bullets penetrate the pan then they better come up with a damn good melee system to make at least some form of melee useful because jesus christ
Mostly because many of us don't even bother with it. Even after finding out that tab looting is technically faster than F looting, I continue to use F.
Its can't feel worse to play when you never did it in the first place.
Frozenprince
Banned
In a month nobody will even remember they did this
For someone that literally directly said it will affect the chart numbers and even streamer numbers, that's hilarious.
Huge Succeeded
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Go home you're drunk
BleedOrange
Banned
You two blind, or just not reading well?
^ Implying that the fact that _at least_ 1 more person will buy the game after this change basically means that the change _can't_ be a negative one.
Nah, I just don't have terrible reading comprehension, unlike some.
Pattycakes
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This feels like unnecessary nitpicking.
It's one animation. I don't see how that is breaking the core of the game. I don't have a problem with tab looting not having it, and I don't have a problem with them deciding to make tab loot have one either.
It's one animation. I don't see how that is breaking the core of the game. I don't have a problem with tab looting not having it, and I don't have a problem with them deciding to make tab loot have one either.
Huge Succeeded
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Yeah, you fuckin' do. I understood what Bernando meant upon reading Bernando's post; you didn't, and you continue to assume otherwise even though Bernando's following posts ALL reinforce what was meant in the post you keep harping on. It's what's driving this whole discussion right now. You're ridiculous.
Ignore the context where I'm directly referencing your statement that the steam charts would be affected by the change.
BleedOrange
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Yeah I dunno how you could misconstrue the implication of that reply that I quoted.
More that the change is inconsequental to people buying the game. That new players have no frame of reference to what it used to be, so it won't affect them, and the change is minor enough that it's unlikely to dissuade already invested players to drop. Changes happen all the time. Some will affect some players negatively. That's unavoidable no matter what you do. But ultimately the chance this actually affects game sales is slim to none.
Take some of your own advice, put your pride aside for a second, and chill.
You argued the same thing just with the opposite conclusion! You argued that since this game is popular, however it exists as it is right now must be good so they shouldn't change this piece of it. Even though, as you also argued "looting is a tiny, tiny piece of the overall game" so the odds of this actually having any effect on the game sales in any manner are extremely low.
Rickenslacker
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Yeah I don't really get the hubbub over tab looting. I do it because it's just fast, but I have no qualms with them changing it to be more deliberate and in-line with the rest of the game pacing. It doesn't "feel better" just because it's fast, I don't mind the minor commitment to it.
But it's not that big of a deal, it doesn't take skill (don't kid yourself), and with this being an early access game with a lot of jank -- the nature of looting was something that always came across as a lack of polish.
But it's not that big of a deal, it doesn't take skill (don't kid yourself), and with this being an early access game with a lot of jank -- the nature of looting was something that always came across as a lack of polish.
Huge Succeeded
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No, I'm just waiting to see you get the ban you deserve, because you're acting the fool here.
Hey, everyone! Dude here thinks we can't follow a conversation. So here it is, for everyone to follow: The relevant excerpts.
Now, who's confused by what Bernando meant here?
Who thinks Bernando meant "This is a positive change that will bring more sales!"
And who thinks Bernando meant "People will continue to buy the game, regardless!"
let's keep moving to find out!
Clearly, context introduced by several of the more recent posts in this thread would lead people who were on the fence to one conclusion. Except for you, apparently.
And it's because you 'don't have terrible reading comprehension'! That's fuckin weird because how are we here now if that's true
BleedOrange
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My argument is that negative word of mouth will have an effect, whether it's small or large nobody will know. We don't have those stats. But you'd have to be an idiot to think it wouldn't at least have some effect.
BleedOrange
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markwaters
Neo Member
Yep. I'm not happy about the change, but I'll get used to it. It's not a big deal at all.
Fun fact: nobody cares about tab looting delay.
BleedOrange
Banned
We'll see, your pre-edit posts we're hostile af.
Have you read the past couple of pages? Apparently people do.
Huge Succeeded
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I'll just edit out all the overt hostility like the person I was responding to did
no that's my schtick
even my post-edit posts are now
It will have minimal to almost zero effect. Definitely not enough to already stop the momentum it has.
This is the point people are making. Not that it's a good or bad change. That ultimately it makes not a lick of difference.
afaik they plan to add OHK executions that can be triggered when behind the enemy.
jediyoshi
Member
Perhaps the game you're looking for is H1Z1.
By the same logic, fixing this exploit will also have positive word of mouth, which will have an effect, whether it's small or largenobody will know. We don't have those stats. But you'd have to be an idiot to tink it wouldn't at least have some effect.
BleedOrange
Banned
That's cool man. I'll just be here waiting on the ban you deserve then.
Pattycakes
Banned
How do y'all who play duos handle playing with like a close friend or SO? I've been playing with some friends and SO, and I'm probably better at the game than they are significantly, but I still want to play duo with them. That being said, I feel bad when they often die early to mid game, and I'm left to close out the rest of the game. I can they're not really interested in the game once they're dead. I don't want to make them uninterested and waste their time, but I also want to win duo games.
If it's early game (like more than 40 left), I'll usually find a way to off myself so we can start over.
BleedOrange
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Try not to be competitive. Play for fun. Try challenge games like SMGs only, or Pistols only. Things like that can spice up the fun-factor and still serve to teach the basics.