You don't need to camp so much, because you don't need to be scared of people using the 3rd person camera to see you while you can't see them.
Now if he sees you, you can see him.
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PLAYERUNKNOWNS BATTLEGROUNDS Early Access Thread: This Is Battle Royale
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Now if he sees you, you can see him.
Yeah, that's why most people say they wanted it, but for me it made me want to move less and camp more.
When you run out in the open, you're examining everything. Looking for every little dot in the distance or peaking aorund a corner that may be a player.
In first person with drastically reduced visibility and no ability to pan around, spotting people is much much harder when traveling. When I play third person, my style isn't particularly campy (because I get bored) and I feel reasonably confident running around and staying on the move. Not the case in FPP.
Yes, it's true that invading a camper's position is safer in FPP (and by safer I mean it's almost an even playing field compared to third person where the camper has a greater advantage), but there's a lot more to the game than just that.
only 180 degrees, you cannot see behind you or anything
WhateverItTakes
Banned
A little. I pressed the key by accident and I was freaked out by some movement being locked and getting weird perspectives on shit.
Felix Lighter
Member
I can't imagine being more encouraged to camp than in a game that people can be hiding their entire body behind a wall while they are watching my every move, preaimed at my head, waiting for me to get too close to react. That encourages people to stay still, waiting for the other guy to expose himself first. Having the freedom to move while knowing that anyone that is watching me has to have exposed themselves first encourages movement. The ability to flank someone behind cover, knowing they can only see you if they are looking at you encourages movement.
There's a trade off, though. You get one thing and lose something else. If I'm running across a relatively open area and someone shoots me from somewhere, in third person I can spot him much more quickly and defend myself. In first person my visibility is so reduced that a much larger advantage is given to the person who happens to see the other first. Ie, flanking is stronger. If you accidentally spot someone before they spot you your advantage is greater. More chance. More chaos.
That's one thing in a game like COD where you'll just respawn, but dying before I can defend myself is a bigger deal in PUBG.
I know there's a lot of factors at play, not the least of which is "get good", but at the end of the day I just don't feel safe running around in FPP because my spatial awareness is so reduced. You say you feel unsafe because someone may be third person peaking you, but I say I am quite aware of what dangerous terrain looks like where people might be and I'll be more suspicious of those areas. Just combining common sense with good headphones and how easy it is to track peoples position by sound goes a long way. There's no such thing as total safety, but I feel far safer in third person, whether I'm roaming or not.
The result of reduced awareness is I move less and camp more. And while it's true that I can't third person peak people while camping, I can still camp just fine by sitting still and tracking a moving person's position perfectly just via sound. A lot of streamers bitch about third person peaking all the time -- Let's see if they stop playing third person all together now that they have an alternative. I bet at least some of them find that it's not all it's cracked up to be.
Rickenslacker
Banned
Felix Lighter
Member
ScipiosDefence
Neo Member
I'd like to ask folks in here a question, obviously it's inspired by my experience in PUBG.
I can't start threads myself yet, but I'd be interested in hearing peoples opinions about gameplay loops in multiplayer shooter games,not just this one, and what makes them rewarding for you and keeps you coming back for more?
I have never really played a lot of mp games myself before, but have found myself clocking up 70 hours and counting in this. I'm mostly a singleplayer guy, enjoying games like Stalker and Turn based tactics like Xcom and Jagged Alliance.
For me that 30mins or so of the match is really well balanced between the quiet stealth of the early game looting and the thumping tension of late game circles. I have only played solo so far. What is it that secret sauce for you?
I can't start threads myself yet, but I'd be interested in hearing peoples opinions about gameplay loops in multiplayer shooter games,not just this one, and what makes them rewarding for you and keeps you coming back for more?
I have never really played a lot of mp games myself before, but have found myself clocking up 70 hours and counting in this. I'm mostly a singleplayer guy, enjoying games like Stalker and Turn based tactics like Xcom and Jagged Alliance.
For me that 30mins or so of the match is really well balanced between the quiet stealth of the early game looting and the thumping tension of late game circles. I have only played solo so far. What is it that secret sauce for you?
In real life you can look almost directly behind you, not only 90 degrees left and right. It's way too limited.
Rickenslacker
Banned
if you include twisting your torso as well you should be able to
EmCeeGramr
Member
Being hit by a blind grenade bouncing down a hill in FPP is both hilarious and heartbreaking.
It's already way harder to be aware of your surroundings in third person, taking away the ability to look behind you seems too much. In Arma its pretty much perfect.
Rickenslacker
Banned
Reposting, I think I got buried on the last post of previous page.
Anyone else hoarding crates or selling asap?
Man I do enjoy FPV a decent bit but deaths seem so much more bullshit in it than in TPS.
At least weirdly it seems like the people I'm up against have better knowledge of where you're and where your moving in First Person over Third Person.
That's the experience I've had thus far.
At least weirdly it seems like the people I'm up against have better knowledge of where you're and where your moving in First Person over Third Person.
That's the experience I've had thus far.
Rickenslacker
Banned
The Gamescom ones are gonna go up 100%, as they're going to be limited.
Daffy Duck
Member
Fuck the RNGesus
He's been hating me tonight.
He's been hating me tonight.
Yeah I figured as much. Do their price reset every week?
BronsonLee
Member
Dats me
Though I try to be more mobile now, if there's a prime spot in the circle, I'ma camp it
TURN IT UP
I got lagged out on my 2nd to last match, then a crash.
My latest match was 99% smooth. (Had one quick hiccup at the beginning during looting)
Got 3rd, today I learned that while vehicles in the very last circle can be great. A dacia going up hill means you're easy pickings lol.
I should really just kill myself by going towards the blue if I make it to the top 10 because my hands feels so weird from all the stress.
Glass Shark
Banned
I always thought this was a really good idea, unfortunately it's not the case
Rickenslacker
Banned
Yep.
catotheyounger
Member
FPP solo feels particularly violent. With everyone's perspective being limited, awareness goes down and people tend to stumble upon other players more often. The ebb and flow of the game is changed too, I feel. Sure there is an initial culling of players early on, but there is a lull around 50-40. I find that the number lingers there for about 4 circle cycles. Mid to late game, from my games at least, have way more people alive than TPP. By the start of endgame, shots start to pop off at all directions and people start to book it to avoid the blue. It is all thrilling and new.
TheVoidDragon
Member
Just tried to play a match...and for some reason i got left behind on the starter island when the game started.
I have just clocked 200 hours. You decide.
I hope so. Happened yesterday to me and my friend when we made it to the last 10.
That's a glitch. Not intentional.
I played a few FPP duos earlier and it was fine, I did like the bugged version though, was great fun with my friend in the car when I was directing him etc. Also that "oh shit, is that you!??" when we were looting separate houses.
Game has been awesome today, night and day compared to last night.
Game has been awesome today, night and day compared to last night.
EmCeeGramr
Member
Almost Top 10, running to circle, phone suddenly rings right as I spot a guy and two guys spot me.
So is the ridiculous lag fixed now?
So your phone rang in the game and they heard it, huh? I never take my phone into battlegrounds.
So your phone rang in the game and they heard it, huh? I never take my phone into battlegrounds.
ScipiosDefence
Neo Member
Great game this, really like it
paperspace
Member
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The FPP contention is really hard to nail down.
On the one hand it's MORE balanced because visibility is worse for everyone. I've made it to top 5 twice solely on the merits of being prone in grass - the lower camera makes grass super viable especially towards end game.
On the other hand, it's much LESS even handed and "lite" (which makes it less playable in general) because you can't be checking 360 degrees at all times and spacial awareness is much harder.
Camping definitely feels more viable in FPP but that's because EVERYTHING feels more dangerous/exposed in FPP. Even while camping you're 10x more on edge and just don't feel safe.
I love it but it feels like a totally different beast, almost a totally different game. FPP feels almost like an MMO STALKER or Fallout game.
On the one hand it's MORE balanced because visibility is worse for everyone. I've made it to top 5 twice solely on the merits of being prone in grass - the lower camera makes grass super viable especially towards end game.
On the other hand, it's much LESS even handed and "lite" (which makes it less playable in general) because you can't be checking 360 degrees at all times and spacial awareness is much harder.
Camping definitely feels more viable in FPP but that's because EVERYTHING feels more dangerous/exposed in FPP. Even while camping you're 10x more on edge and just don't feel safe.
I love it but it feels like a totally different beast, almost a totally different game. FPP feels almost like an MMO STALKER or Fallout game.
I hope they can rollout OC FPP soon. Not sure why they only limited it to EU and NA.
You buy them for "$2.5" (who wrote that?)
Which rolls into my question - is Gamescom crate likely to sink in value as more people claim them? They are going for around $3.80 now. CSGO poisoned the well on me opening cases.
It will inevitably go down a bit in the following weeks, but then when they can no longer be obtained (27 August) they will start rising.
Swimmer9800
Member
It doesn't run on my macbook. Guess I gotta take my pc to college with me 😑
jediyoshi
Member
You get the option to buy them in the crate open screen ingame.
ZeroMaverick
Member
In case anyone is wondering, this game does not work on a Bootcamp'd Mid-2014 Macbook Pro
lol
Was worth a shot, I guess...
lol
Was worth a shot, I guess...