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[Paz]

Evermore in 9th place... did he even encounter any combat, or just drive around and heal? lol

He drove to the spawn island, then drove around to military island south rocks, and afked/healed.

He demonstrated that the circle mechanics are just not where they need to be and is 15k richer, I think that's a huge service to the community because it should push Bluehole to make some changes.

 

[Anne]

Everyone needs to thank Evermore for demonstrating how stupid the ability to heal your way to top 10 is, winning on points with the most absurd strategy.

All perfectly valid.

Rumor has it that he also got #1 on the KR leaderboards by abusing the system too. He's a very talented shooting game player still, but he also just knows how to win lmao.

He was actually stuck in some rocks lol. Whether he saw Break die and decided he could hide/heal like that is another question.

 

[Twookie]

this has been the worst observing I've ever seen in a esports title ever

how they consistently missed the action is actually beyond me

 

[Zojirushi]

That first guy won with four kills across three matches?

 

[JHall]

Evermore with the 200 IQ plays

 

[BlackBuzzard]

As long as piece of shit Ninja doesn't win everything is fine.

 

[Ryde3]

I love the spectator mode for custom games, and these Gamescom games are good but the 'cameraman' sucks!!!

 

[Deleted member 325805]

Evermore just changed the game lol.

 

[Alucrid]

worst awards ceremony ever

 

[TastyBread]

haha the lodge pan rewards, love it!

 

[Croatoan]

As long as piece of shit Ninja doesn't win everything is fine.

Uh why do you hate Ninja?

Question: I only watched the last game, did Evermore kill anyone?

 

[Venfayth]

As long as piece of shit Ninja doesn't win everything is fine.

He shit in your cereal or what?

 

[Swig_]

Will eSports ever not be super awkward in interviews/award ceremonies? lol

 

[aeolist]

Will eSports ever not be super awkward in interviews/award ceremonies? lol

my favorite is when they try to get players to spray champagne

nerds simply cannot figure out how to open those bottles

 

[Cat Party]

Pan trophies lol

 

[BizzyBum]

So the winning player killed 5 people overall and won by manipulating the point system by staying alive outside the circle and healing?

 

[Croatoan]

Will eSports ever not be super awkward in interviews/award ceremonies? lol

Professional non-esports have awkward interviews and award ceremonies so why wouldn't esports?

 

[acm2000]

well they really fucked up that scoring system, need more points for kills

 

[Anne]

So the winning player killed 5 people overall and won by manipulating the point system by staying alive outside the circle and healing?

Yes. He still played very smart up until it came down to Break dying and him going straight into system abuse. He did beat Ninja in a 1v1 game one so it's not like he's bad. He's good and also figured out the system,

 

[Croatoan]

So the winning player killed 5 people overall and won by manipulating the point system by staying alive outside the circle and healing?

Yes, but he isn't a bad shooter player, just really smart.

IMO you should not be able to see while in the blue (like H1Z1) and you shouldn't be able to heal.

 

[Acinixys]

Pan trophies lol

Jokes side those things are expensive as far as pans go

Wonder if they are usable. Doubtful since they are painted

 

[Venfayth]

So the winning player killed 5 people overall and won by manipulating the point system by staying alive outside the circle and healing?

"manipulating the point system" is a weirdly complex way to interpret surviving by staying outside the circle.

He survived.

I posted an article in this thread not a day or two ago that demonstrated how you can get to top ~150 in the leaderboards just by surviving in the blue with healing items, but never killing anybody, and never winning.

I think that the blue needs to be changed to be more punishing, and that this style of play should probably be discouraged somehow mechanically, but it's not some overly complex or articulate strategy. It's just too easy to stay outside the circle with healing items and only commit to the safe zone once most people are dead.

 

[Croatoan]

"manipulating the point system" is a weirdly complex way to interpret surviving by staying outside the circle.

He survived.

I posted an article in this thread not a day or two ago that demonstrated how you can get to top ~150 in the leaderboards just by surviving in the blue with healing items, but never killing anybody, and never winning.

I think that the blue needs to be changed to be more punishing, and that this style of play should probably be discouraged somehow mechanically, but it's not some overly complex or articulate strategy. It's just too easy to stay outside the circle with healing items and only commit to the safe zone once most people are dead.

Like I said above, make the blue hazy like h1z1 to prevent blue camping, and keep people from healing in it. I mean, you already cant heal as a passenger in a moving car, so its not like Bluehole cares about realism.

The solution is dead simple. Get in the circle before it passes you or die. They could slow the circle down to compensate, it should never move faster than a fully stimmed sprinter.

 

[Paz]

Yes. He still played very smart up until it came down to Break dying and him going straight into system abuse. He did beat Ninja in a 1v1 game one so it's not like he's bad. He's good and also figured out the system,

Yah anyone who takes anything away from the winner is missing the point really, a very highly skilled and intelligent player.

Also a perfect example of just how the circle mechanics are in need of refinement, I agree with the way most pro players think they should move slower but deal much more damage.

Alternatives that might work would be things like healing items being half as effective outside the circle or other penalties that make it undesirable to afk or loot goblin your time away.

 

[MThanded]

So the winning player killed 5 people overall and won by manipulating the point system by staying alive outside the circle and healing?

You mean playing smart. It's boring to watch but everyone should have been doing it if they really wanted to win.

I hate watching defensive boxing but it works if done well.

They will be forced to fix the circle.

 

[Venfayth]

Like I said above, make the blue hazy like h1z1 to prevent blue camping, and keep people from healing in it. I mean, you already cant heal as a passenger in a moving car, so its not like Bluehole cares about realism.

I'm not about to argue with anyone about realism in games, but let me tell you I would never try to stick a syringe in myself while any of this games vehicles were in motion LOL

 

[Anne]

I'm not taking anything from Evermore btw if it came off like that. It's just in his nature to do whatever it takes to win if it's within the rules. He abused the system and exposed it on the big stage at least, so maybe they'll look at their scoring system and especially the circle mechanics.

 

[Croatoan]

I'm not about to argue with anyone about realism in games, but let me tell you I would never try to stick a syringe in myself while any of this games vehicles were in motion LOL

Yeah but you would bandage wouldn't you...lol. Maybe not

I'm not taking anything from Evermore btw if it came off like that. It's just in his nature to do whatever it takes to win if it's within the rules. He abused the system and exposed it on the big stage at least, so maybe they'll look at their scoring system and especially the circle mechanics.

In many ways he just did a huge service for the future of PUBG. This strat will lead to big changes because nobody wants to see this be the way you win everything at this game.

 

[BizzyBum]

Yes. He still played very smart up until it came down to Break dying and him going straight into system abuse. He did beat Ninja in a 1v1 game one so it's not like he's bad. He's good and also figured out the system,

Yes, but he isn't a bad shooter player, just really smart.

IMO you should not be able to see while in the blue (like H1Z1) and you shouldn't be able to heal.

"manipulating the point system" is a weirdly complex way to interpret surviving by staying outside the circle.

He survived.

I posted an article in this thread not a day or two ago that demonstrated how you can get to top ~150 in the leaderboards just by surviving in the blue with healing items, but never killing anybody, and never winning.

I think that the blue needs to be changed to be more punishing, and that this style of play should probably be discouraged somehow mechanically, but it's not some overly complex or articulate strategy. It's just too easy to stay outside the circle with healing items and only commit to the safe zone once most people are dead.

Thanks, I'll make sure to never take PUBG seriously for esports until major things are changed.

 

[JDB]

I'm pretty sure they've said that they'll eventually implement being able to heal in moving cars. They were worried about people abusing it (constantly healing while driving around) I think, though.

 

[Croatoan]

Thanks, I'll make sure to never take PUBG seriously for esports until major things are changed.

You probably shouldn't take any 'early access game' seriously. Tournaments like this were bound to show the problems with the game....

I'm pretty sure they've said that they'll eventually implement being able to heal in moving cars. They were worried about people abusing it (constantly healing while driving around) I think, though.

I hope they never allow it. Make healing not work in the blue as well!

 

[Venfayth]

Thanks, I'll make sure to never take PUBG seriously for esports until major things are changed.

Suit yourself. I just like watching the game, and I like watching people who are good at the game.

I don't get the whole "esports lol" thing people are doing anyway, why do people care? If competitors think the game isn't worth trying to compete in, they shouldn't compete. If spectators think the game isn't worth watching, they shouldn't watch.

 

[Anne]

How to win a major PUBG tournament:

 

[Venfayth]

Solos is the most punishing, and dare I say random, game mode to begin with.

I think duos and teams will have more consistent placements from better players. I'm excited to see the rest of the tournament.

 

[Paz]

Thanks, I'll make sure to never take PUBG seriously for esports until major things are changed.

It's a couple months in to its early access, the only reason it's even esports at all is because 8 million people own it and hundreds of thousands watch it at any given moment on twitch.

It's a marathon, not a sprint, you shouldn't be expecting CS Go when it's not even CS 1.6 yet.

 

[Croatoan]

How to win a major PUBG tournament:

"Sometimes the best way to win is to not play the game at all."

 

[bounchfx]

wait, it's over already? shit, I just got home. are there more games tomorrow?

also, rofl about the healing outside of the blue. Does the blue damage not get more severe the smaller the circle gets/closer to the end of the game? if not, that's an easy and obvious change. that one's free, blue hole

 

[JDB]

Maybe they should try out a slower, but more punishing circle. Would be interesting to see.

 

[Aselith]

How to win a major PUBG tournament:

The way to fix that is make kills matter more than final position in a round but then it becomes a game of how many people you luck into.

It'd still be a shitload better though and the pros can try to figure out techniques to maximize encounters. It also would mean that they'll want to resolve standoffs asap which will help with the boring stuff.

 

[BizzyBum]

Change it so you can't heal outside the circle.

 

[Venfayth]

Duos and squads should be more intense than solos because you can revive downed teammates, but I'm curious to see how it will play out.

While I only ever watched one H1Z1 tournament, it was incredibly boring. 12 teams of 5 all landing in different places, posturing, and trying not to get picked off until the last circle or two. Then it was just smoke bombs, positioning, and one dude hiding in an overturned car for 10 minutes.

I think PUBG has less loot to make such strategies viable, so I'm really hoping for fun matches.

wait, it's over already? shit, I just got home. are there more games tomorrow?

also, rofl about the healing outside of the blue. Does the blue damage not get more severe the smaller the circle gets/closer to the end of the game? if not, that's an easy and obvious change. that one's free, blue hole

It does but it's almost negligible for the first two circles. You could get through it with a couple first aid kids. The third one hurts, the fourth one starts chunking badly.

I don't actually know which circles are unhealable given infinite supplies, it might just be the last one.

The way to fix that is make kills matter more than final position in a round but then it becomes a game of how many people you luck into.

It'd still be a shitload better though and the pros can try to figure out techniques to maximize encounters. It also would mean that they'll want to resolve standoffs asap which will help with the boring stuff.

Disagree, don't want to watch deathmatch, other games can have that, but to me that defeats the point of Battle Royale. I don't have a problem with them rebalancing kills to matter more, but ranking #1 should always get you the most points unless #2 kills like 20 people or something.

 

[Anne]

Apparently Evermore getting stuck wasn't even intentional lol.

 

[Swig_]

Maybe they should try out a slower, but more punishing circle. Would be interesting to see.

I wouldn't mind this. I feel like the last few circles are a little too quick. If you have bad RNG with some of them, you basically have to run like a madman to survive, which puts you at a huge risk.

 

[Aselith]

Change it so you can't heal outside the circle.

If they do that for the main game, being far outside the circle is a death sentence. They might ramp up the circle effects to cause more damage the longer you are outside though. Maybe like 1 full life bar worth of health and then it starts ramping.

 

[Venfayth]

My solution to the circle problem: Damage increases exponentially the further you are from the circle and lessens if you're moving towards the center.

This scales evenly with the existing circle damage and doesn't punish players who are far from the first circle and moving with the blue to try to get inside.

 

[acm2000]

in blue = instakill

fuck the campers

 

[Aselith]

Disagree, don't want to watch deathmatch, other games can have that, but to me that defeats the point of Battle Royale. I don't have a problem with them rebalancing kills to matter more, but ranking #1 should always get you the most points unless #2 kills like 20 people or something.

Yeah, I can understand that. Maybe like winning being worth 2-3 kills or something?

 

[Paz]

If they do that for the main game, being far outside the circle is a death sentence. They might ramp up the circle effects to cause more damage the longer you are outside though. Maybe like 1 full life bar worth of health and then it starts ramping.

Could always make it cumulative, so staying outside multiple circles is just totally non viable cos you take circle 1 + 2 + 3 damage simultaneously.

 

[frbrr]

The way to fix that is make kills matter more than final position in a round but then it becomes a game of how many people you luck into.

It'd still be a shitload better though and the pros can try to figure out techniques to maximize encounters. It also would mean that they'll want to resolve standoffs asap which will help with the boring stuff.

or they should leave it as it is and not listen to streamer fanboys who cry about everything

 

[Aselith]

Could always make it cumulative, so staying outside multiple circles is just totally non viable cos you take circle 1 + 2 + 3 damage simultaneously.

Yeah that would be good