PlayStation 4 lifetime sales pass 22.3m worldwide

Whether you want it or not, the PS4 will keep selling gangbusters worldwide, your opinion on the software side of things won't change shit.
I agree that the exclusive software catalog is a bit meh (outside of Bloodborne which is my GOTG for now) but coupling that argument with hardware sales is just wrong as exclusive software isn't as important as it used to be, so yeah, deal with it I guess?
 
How dare some people in this thread wish for there to be more sweet games for us to enjoy on our PS4s?

You can wish all you want, but Sony can't magically pull games out of their collective studios' asses.

It's not like Sony and their studios are sitting there drinking champagne laughing about their sales numbers.

From this thread I learn that my PS4 literally has no game and games I've been playing are all created with my imagination.

Well, one could argue that games like Bloodborne
were just a dream
. So maybe they're on to something here!
 
Cool for Sony, but I'm not happy with it. These consoles are kinda outdated technology wise and if the keep one selling a lot this will slow down overall progress especially with emerging technologies like VR.
 
Cool for Sony, but I'm not happy with it. These consoles are kinda outdated technology wise and if the keep one selling a lot this will slow down overall progress especially with emerging technologies like VR.
Yep. Sony selling Morpheus is going to slow down the adoption of VR.
 
Maybe not, but if I were to express my disappointment that there aren't as many sweet games to play on my PS4 as I would like, I'd probably get labelled as a troll.
If you look at the posts that people are jumping on, they're generally not saying the same thing as what you are.
 
How dare some people in this thread wish for there to be more sweet games for us to enjoy on our PS4s?
It's fair, but keep in mind Sony's current library dwarfs their first 2 year releases overall compared to PS3. They have more games than the competition, they have more exclusives than the competition and have the game of the generation that's an exclusive that just came out in March. I'd say they're doing pretty well and feeling pretty good about everything at the moment.

I do hope we get one more surprise game for Q4 2015 from Sony though. Even though we will be getting R&C and hopefully Persona 5. Get Rime to release this year and Bend's game (new IP please) and I am more than happy.

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At least we don't have someone in here comparing Sony to nazi Germany, like in the May PS+ thread.
Link? This sounds like an amazing disaster.
 
Nice numbers. More Bloodbornes and less Order 1886's please!

So has the Wii U even broken 10 million yet?

Man, this kind of comments always make me sad. There's space for everything in the game industry, or at least it should. If you don't like it, it's fine (haven't played the game and has no intention of); but wishing for a genre/kind of game to disappear/stop being produced makes me sad.

At least we don't have someone in here comparing Sony to nazi Germany, like in the May PS+ thread.

the fuck?
 
Maybe not, but if I were to express my disappointment that there aren't as many sweet games to play on my PS4 as I would like, I'd probably get labelled as a troll.

Saying you would like more games is not the same as saying there are no games.

I would like more games for my PS4. It's why I bought it.
 
How dare some people in this thread wish for there to be more sweet games for us to enjoy on our PS4s?

Literally everyone thinks PS4 needs more games. It's the people making hyperbolic meme-level posts about there being no games that are getting well-deserved 'list war' responses.
 
Cool for Sony, but I'm not happy with it. These consoles are kinda outdated technology wise and if the keep one selling a lot this will slow down overall progress especially with emerging technologies like VR.
Outdated? I wouldn't say so. But if you want top line hardware there is only the option to play on PC.
 
Yep. Sony selling Morpheus is going to slow down the adoption of VR.

Sony selling Morpheus being only compatible to a console which isn't able to fully show VR potential will not help VR. In fact, there is a risk that it'll sway the other way and will be seen as a "gimmick" since the experience isn't sophisticated enough. Anyway, these consoles have very weak CPUs which you do not want to see in 2017 and onwards I guess...
 
Sony selling Morpheus being only compatible to a console which isn't able to fully show VR potential will not help VR. In fact, there is a risk that it'll sway the other way and will be seen as a "gimmick" since the experience isn't sophisticated enough. Anyway, these consoles have very weak CPUs which you do not want to see in 2017 and onwards I guess...
Sophisticated enough? You really need to learn to pull your head out of your own ass every now and then.
 
Exclusives matter, just not always in NPD chart topping ways. Hell I bought a 360 to play Viva Pinata, a Wii U to play Toad's Treasure Tracker, and XB1 to play Sunset Overdrive and a PS4 to play Octodad. None of those games were chart topping hits, but each sold at least one system.

In some cases yes, this behavior will happen. I'm more interested in how the platform holders approach and view the role of exclusives with their overall marketing strategy. Clearly The Order: 1886 underperformed for Sony for instance, but it still contributes to establishing a brand identity.

Yeah, I think the long tail of support of the PS3 also had some effect on the adoption of the PS4.

It signaled the market that if you buy a PlayStation you get support until the new one comes out and sometimes even longer than that.


Yeah. I'm just saying you can have any feeling on the lack of exclusives that an one has an interest in or the overall market and how it doesn't gel with what one personally likes.

The problem just arises if the personal opinion on what should matter is not supported by the statistics in the very thread you post it in.

That's why I only see the two options there if you believe the PS4 is shit in that department. It's either it doesn't matter, or they are not shit but amazing. ;-)

Oh yeah, there's no doubt that they matter. I was only providing some context as to why minor exclusives matter as well, in terms of platform perception. I agree with your two options though lol.
 
Sony selling Morpheus being only compatible to a console which isn't able to fully show VR potential will not help VR. In fact, there is a risk that it'll sway the other way and will be seen as a "gimmick" since the experience isn't sophisticated enough. Anyway, these consoles have very weak CPUs which you do not want to see in 2017 and onwards I guess...

on 20+ million consoles, plug and play. come on.


if anything, it will be the go-to vr out of all out there.


accessibility is the number one advantage, and it is something that breaks down the barrier of entry. sophistication? this is everyone's first vr experience. as long as it is good enough for most people, no one would complain. comfort and accessibility are the priority of morpheus.
 
Everything sells. Anything is a potential system seller. To what degree is the difference that each title carries with it. And what the hell are you talking about with "facts don't matter to you"? I didn't say anything false. You're the one using one of the worst selling consoles in history as an example of the selling-prowess of exclusives. That's fucking stupid.
I talked about all 3 consoles, not just the Wii U. How is it stupid when it is one of the three consoles that are out at this point in time? This is what I mean when facts don't matter to you when you put your head in the sand and ramble nonsense instead.
 
It's fair, but keep in mind Sony's current library dwarfs their first 2 year releases overall. They have more games than the competition, they have more exclusives than the competition and have the game of the generation that's an exclusive that just came out in March. I'd say they're doing pretty well and feeling pretty good about everything at the moment.

I do hope we get one more surprise game for Q4 2015 from Sony though. Even though we will be getting R&C and hopefully Persona 5. Get Rime to release this year and Bend's game (new IP please) and I am more than happy.

Game of the generation? Don't you think you might be jumping the gun there?

I really like BB a lot, I bought a ps4 for it, but outside of that there's been nothing to get me to turn it on besides using it as a bluray player.

The only games on the horizon that I know for sure I'll buy are persona 5 and disgaea 5. Not really into Naughty Dog stuff and what else is there that isn't coming to PC?

On the other hand, I'm just some dude and the way I feel about it is probably not a good reflection of the 20m.
 
Sony selling Morpheus being only compatible to a console which isn't able to fully show VR potential will not help VR. In fact, there is a risk that it'll sway the other way and will be seen as a "gimmick" since the experience isn't sophisticated enough. Anyway, these consoles have very weak CPUs which you do not want to see in 2017 and onwards I guess...

Hope you like the taste of crow.
 
I can only speak for myself.

I have owned PS1, 2, and 3. I will buy a PS4 at some point - probably when Uncharted 4 comes out. The reason I haven't bought one yet is because I made the decision to get an Xbox One at launch, which was the right choice *for me*, as Xbox 360 was where most of my closest online friends played, it had the exclusives that I wanted to play first, and I preferred the Xbox ecosystem. Also, I already have access to most of the games that I would buy on PS4 on my Xbox. There are some Sony exclusives that I would buy right now or have picked up already if I had a PS4, but there are not enough for me to warrant a purchase just yet considering that I already own a next gen console. So when people say "no games", I hear "no games that I can't already get without spending another 400 bucks."

That said, I don't think that anyone can dispute the quality, value, or success of the PS4. When the time is right for me, I will pick one up and join the millions who already have. I'm really glad that consoles are doing this well, considering the doom and gloom that analysts projected about this generation's vitality. 22.3 million is crazy good for a year and a half without a price drop.
 
I'm just linking to the post instead of quoting it, because it's really off topic for this thread. Thread was locked because of that post.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=162104647&postcount=701
For what it's worth the poster was making a joke. As he has done many many times before in various threads and was quoted endlessly "for the mega lulz."

I can kind of see PS1 and PS3 but I can't really understand how it's beating PS2. It must be the size of the industry now or something.
PS2 didn't have a mostly world wide simultaneous launch, like the PS4 did.
 
Why do these threads devolve so quickly? The "no games" stuff really needs to stop.

I feel sorry for yall but at the same time, the "time to popcorn" keeps getting shorter and therefore more hilarious for us.

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Kaz was BORN to be photoshopped.
 
I talked about all 3 consoles, not just the Wii U. How is it stupid when it is one of the three consoles that are out at this point in time? This is what I mean when facts don't matter to you when you put your head in the sand and ramble nonsense instead.

Yes, facts matter to me. And I haven't discredited any. The Wii U exists, but it's a terrible example to use to portray the significance of exclusives. If I am not mistaken you were exaggerating the importance of exclusives, which today means very little when talking about hardware sales when you see how popular other multi platform franchises are. I can imagine that GTA V alone pushed more consoles than a majority of exclusives. And so many consoles are paired with multi platform titles in bundles.

And once again, I will reinforce that your use of the Wii U as a platform sustained by exclusives is poor. Simply existing does not mean it's successful. It's had over two years and mostly exclusives to rely on to sell as poorly as it has. Of course we won't know how much more or less multi platform titles would have affected it, since it hasn't happened nor will it most likely happen, so I will just say that for a console primarily focused on exclusives, its systems do not sell well as a result of them.
 
The console is still a joke when it comes to the game library. Two years in.

The way things are going can't see this success lasting long... The ball is in Sony's hands now.

I hope you learned a lesson from this thread. You can't mess with the PS4 army like that.
 
I'm just linking to the post instead of quoting it, because it's really off topic for this thread. Thread was locked because of that post.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=162104647&postcount=701

No hydro, you've gone too far :(

For what it's worth the poster was making a joke. As he has done many many times before in various threads and was quoted endlessly "for the mega lulz."

yeah, but that's was a terrible joke though.
 
I'm just linking to the post instead of quoting it, because it's really off topic for this thread. Thread was locked because of that post.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=162104647&postcount=701

For what it's worth the poster was making a joke. As he has done many many times before in various threads and was quoted endlessly "for the mega lulz."


PS2 didn't have a mostly world wide simultaneous launch, like the PS4 did.

I know the poster, but jokes have a limit too.

Ah, i see, it was it's hydro! Still, i agree that the joke when too far and it caused the thread to derail.
 
Yes, facts matter to me. And I haven't discredited any. The Wii U exists, but it's a terrible example to use to portray the significance of exclusives. If I am not mistaken you were exaggerating the importance of exclusives, which today means very little when talking about hardware sales when you see how popular other multi platform franchises are. I can imagine that GTA V alone pushed more consoles than a majority of exclusives. And so many consoles are paired with multi platform titles in bundles.
How is a terrible example when it's one of the three consoles out right now? Why don't you say it's a terrible example because it doesn't fit my narrative, and I like putting my head in the sand instead when that happens.

GTAV definitely pushed consoles like crazy. Notice how I never said that first party exclusives are all that matter but that they definitely help. Get those big games from each console and if you get the 3rd party exclusives, you will do allright. Add good hype, strong message, a plethora of games, good price, along with a strong international pedigree and you get the PS4. People who keep acting like 1st party games are practically irrelevant in terms of sales must like dismissing the big franchise games when they release.

And once again, I will reinforce that your use of the Wii U as a platform sustained by exclusives is poor. Simply existing does not mean it's successful. It's had over two years and mostly exclusives to rely on to sell as poorly as it has. Of course we won't know how much more or less multi platform titles would have affected it, since it hasn't happened nor will it most likely happen, so I will just say that for a console primarily focused on exclusives, its systems do not sell well as a result of them.
What the fuck are you talking about? It had them when it released and almost all of them bombed. Had they sold well, they would have kept making them. They didn't, they sold horribly. The idea that a console with slightly better specs of PS3/360 would sell more instead of Nintendo's first party IPs is one of the worst comments I've read here in some time.
 
I still think the PS4 is lacking some core titles but like the PS3 in another year or two it's gonna catch up on all that it's lacked.
tfw no The Last Guardian ever.
 
The console is still a joke when it comes to the game library. Two years in.

The way things are going can't see this success lasting long... The ball is in Sony's hands now.

Really? Do you own a PS4? So far I'm more satisfied than most generations at 2 years. 2015 is looking really good too IMO.
 
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