BruceLeeRoy
Banned
So Ricky if I told you my X1 was complete trash and there hasn't been 1 game on the system that I like your response to me would be:
"Opinions and preferences, how do they work?"
I find that extremely unlikely.
PlayStation 4 lifetime sales pass 22.3m worldwide
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So Ricky if I told you my X1 was complete trash and there hasn't been 1 game on the system that I like your response to me would be:
"Opinions and preferences, how do they work?"
I find that extremely unlikely.
Appollowexx
Member
It's possible they don't have anything exclusive that's a system seller like Uncharted, but the biggest third party games like MGSV, Batman, The Witcher 3, Battlefront, Fifa, Call of Duty will all be releasing on PS4 this year. Just because they're on other systems does not somehow disqualify them as games on the PS4.
Based on not doing any research before this post it's probably:
COD > FIFA > SW:BF > AC:V > NBA > Batman > Madden or something.
Cthulhu_Steev
Member
A bit like this?
Looks like you couldn't begin to fathom how people might feel that way.
I own one and still feel underwhelmed by the library at this point. The only non-indie game I have played in months is Borderlands Collection, and that is a PS3 port. Hell, weeks will go by where I don't even turn it on.
I am hoping E3 shows me something awesome.
You're happy with this guy dismissing the entire PS4 library though. Funny that.
Fair and balanced, all the way.
Signed: A. Deviant.
Mikey Jr.
Member
The 399 price is probably the barrier. At 399, the hardcore guys have upgraded. All that's left are the casuals, so Sony has to drop to 299 to start selling to them.
crazysapertonight
Member
Bloodborne is good, but nothing so special for me, just another game.
Ps3 blew me away with Uncharted 3 and The Last of Us, and I wait something like this from PS4) Seems I just bought it too early)
What a weird generation we have here. I called the PS4 selling like this (to some friends) if it was clearly better than XB1 back in feb 2012 when Wii U cratered. I am still surprised by how badly the other consoles are doing compared to PS4. This feels a bit like the PS2 generation but with much fewer games, what gets to me though is how long game development is taking.
When you look at games taking ~3 years or even in some cases more, and Nintendo already revealing NX next year and their talk of a unified platform (multiple devices under 1 brand/platform) Will they jump start the 9th gen? does that mean Sony launches PS5 in 2018? that is a bit like PS3 ending mid 2011 with it's successor that holiday. I'm in the wait and see currently, as a PC gamer I'm not in a rush to pick up the PS4 as the only exclusive I want on the system is Bloodborne, I want FF15 and KH3 as well but they have a decent chance of coming to PC.
I think Sony needs to drop to $299 this holiday season or we might see slow down, yes they don't really have competition but the gamers who are buying on hype is limited, it isn't as general public as Wii, and PS2 was a bigger hit with the death of the Dreamcast and coming off the PSX.
All of the above is true to me but at the same time, PS4 holds around 50% of the current gen console market and is selling ~2:1 against it's closest competitor, this gen is weird, I really hope Sony has a big E3 with some big exclusives to talk about because uncharted isn't on my list.
When you look at games taking ~3 years or even in some cases more, and Nintendo already revealing NX next year and their talk of a unified platform (multiple devices under 1 brand/platform) Will they jump start the 9th gen? does that mean Sony launches PS5 in 2018? that is a bit like PS3 ending mid 2011 with it's successor that holiday. I'm in the wait and see currently, as a PC gamer I'm not in a rush to pick up the PS4 as the only exclusive I want on the system is Bloodborne, I want FF15 and KH3 as well but they have a decent chance of coming to PC.
I think Sony needs to drop to $299 this holiday season or we might see slow down, yes they don't really have competition but the gamers who are buying on hype is limited, it isn't as general public as Wii, and PS2 was a bigger hit with the death of the Dreamcast and coming off the PSX.
All of the above is true to me but at the same time, PS4 holds around 50% of the current gen console market and is selling ~2:1 against it's closest competitor, this gen is weird, I really hope Sony has a big E3 with some big exclusives to talk about because uncharted isn't on my list.
Kleegamefan
K. LEE GAIDEN
Some of you in this thread will be surprised to discover exclusive games aren't the system sellers they used to be.
Current generation consoles are much more "mainstream" than ever, which is why I feel we are seeing mainstream multiplatform games garner the biggest sales.
These current generation consoles are being adopted at a nearly unprecedented rate too, which reinforces the argument they are pushed by mainstream multiplatform software for a mainstream audience.
As this thread reveals, the PS4 is doing about as well as the Wii, in terms of sales, and I don't think you could find a better model for mainstream success than the Wii if you tried.
That said, I truly believe that the PS4 will have better long term legs than the Wii, whose end of life sales parachuted off a cliff at the end.
First of all, and most ironically, the PS4 has tons of games, nearly 300 of them only 18 months after launch. For those not paying attention, this is actually the fastest growing library in console history.
Most importantly, even with all this "casual gamer" success, PS4 most likely won't be abandoned by the hard core Neo-gaf type the way the Wii was.
For one, PS4 seems like it will be the only current generation console with any decent amount of Japanese software, which traditionally attracts the hard core like flies to shit, so to speak.
Also with the lions share of serious fighting games, PS4 will certainly have tons of support from the fighting game community, who are as vocal and hard core a group as you will find anywhere.
In other words, the PS4 is a true PlayStation. It is not FPS-heavy or sports-heavy or rpg-heavy but has a very large and diverse mix of games and, unlike the PS3, it's affordable from the start.
If you sit back and look at it from this point of view, it's not surprising to see these massive sales continue for this platform
Current generation consoles are much more "mainstream" than ever, which is why I feel we are seeing mainstream multiplatform games garner the biggest sales.
These current generation consoles are being adopted at a nearly unprecedented rate too, which reinforces the argument they are pushed by mainstream multiplatform software for a mainstream audience.
As this thread reveals, the PS4 is doing about as well as the Wii, in terms of sales, and I don't think you could find a better model for mainstream success than the Wii if you tried.
That said, I truly believe that the PS4 will have better long term legs than the Wii, whose end of life sales parachuted off a cliff at the end.
First of all, and most ironically, the PS4 has tons of games, nearly 300 of them only 18 months after launch. For those not paying attention, this is actually the fastest growing library in console history.
Most importantly, even with all this "casual gamer" success, PS4 most likely won't be abandoned by the hard core Neo-gaf type the way the Wii was.
For one, PS4 seems like it will be the only current generation console with any decent amount of Japanese software, which traditionally attracts the hard core like flies to shit, so to speak.
Also with the lions share of serious fighting games, PS4 will certainly have tons of support from the fighting game community, who are as vocal and hard core a group as you will find anywhere.
In other words, the PS4 is a true PlayStation. It is not FPS-heavy or sports-heavy or rpg-heavy but has a very large and diverse mix of games and, unlike the PS3, it's affordable from the start.
If you sit back and look at it from this point of view, it's not surprising to see these massive sales continue for this platform
As one of those 22 million people, I don't fully disagree with him.
Zombegoast
Member
Still lacking those games we've seen since the Ps2 games in general. I'm not really in a rush to buy a Ps4 unless they cancel Persona 5 on the Ps3.
There is a difference between caring about exclusives and then saying the market cares.
The people that say the PS4 has shitty exclusives or none have these two options in the face of the big success of the PS4:
- The exclusives are system sellers after all, despite the insistence that they are shit.
- The market doesn't care about the shittiness or lack of exclusives.
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
haven't turned mine on since i finished BB. patiently waiting for e3 and hopefully some kind of blu ray remote.
Napalm_Frank
Member
Magic Mushroom
Member
For many people exclusives don't matter. They just want their FIFA or CoD box and not everbody wants a PC in their living room.
For me, it's mostly the exclusives. And with Bloodborne already being one of my all-time favorite games, the purchase is vindicated. As for a lovely smaller exclusive hardly anyone ever talks about: Hohokum. That and Resogun (and P.T.) are the best downloadables on the system I feel.
For me, it's mostly the exclusives. And with Bloodborne already being one of my all-time favorite games, the purchase is vindicated. As for a lovely smaller exclusive hardly anyone ever talks about: Hohokum. That and Resogun (and P.T.) are the best downloadables on the system I feel.
Don't expect $299 anytime soon. Sony hasn't even dropped to $349 yet which they probably won't even consider until the holidays.
How can you be happy with the 8 year old PS3? I mean the speed alone of the OS is worth the upgrade.
EmptySpace
Banned
some people are really oblivious to the fact that 3rd party games sell consoles, or that the "3rd party" in the real world where real people live do not matter.
they look at a console, they think, "can i play nba 2k on it? fifa? call of duty? okay i'll buy it."
again, that part of the venn diagram where people own multiple systems is small. so all these talks about, "hurr durrr i can play it on my pc. why would i buy it for my console?" is basically a small percentage of the overall gaming populace.
they look at a console, they think, "can i play nba 2k on it? fifa? call of duty? okay i'll buy it."
again, that part of the venn diagram where people own multiple systems is small. so all these talks about, "hurr durrr i can play it on my pc. why would i buy it for my console?" is basically a small percentage of the overall gaming populace.
Kleegamefan
K. LEE GAIDEN
DarkJedi24
Member
I view platform exclusives as having a more indirect impact on the market. Exclusives in general, outside of big guns like Uncharted and Halo, I'd say work more as a positioning device rather than system sellers. The same goes for third-party marketing deals.
Adding more depth to your roster compared to star players.
Whether or not exclusives matter is irrelevant when a lot of the big third party games being put on the system of released out-right broken, are barebones in content like Destiny, remasters, or are Ubisoft collectathon open-world treadmills which exist mostly to show off pretty graphics and big empty worlds. That being said, that's a problem for the xbox one as well, so it doesn't effect sales. Hell, on the subject of good exclusives, Bloodbourne is probably the best exclusive on any current gen system, and Resogun is no slouch either.
And yes, there are indies, and I love indies, but indies aren't graphical powerhouses that cause people to buy systems. It feels like this gen is more about who can have the least offensive library of games with marginally better graphics than about games.
outunderthestars
Banned
To be fair, I didn't say the system has no games, just not many that I find myself wanting to play at this point.
The system has alot of games that appeal to others: Destiny, Bloodborne, Hardline etc. The XB1 isn't any better for me. This generation just seems to be off to a really slow start in terms of software development. Still no new Fallout, Mass Effect, Bioshock, Ratchet & Clank, Crackdown, etc.
I am excited to see more of Desux Ex and Just Cause 3 though.
Exclusives matter, just not always in NPD chart topping ways. Hell I bought a 360 to play Viva Pinata, a Wii U to play Toad's Treasure Tracker, and XB1 to play Sunset Overdrive and a PS4 to play Octodad. None of those games were chart topping hits, but each sold at least one system.
Yeah, I think the long tail of support of the PS3 also had some effect on the adoption of the PS4.
It signaled the market that if you buy a PlayStation you get support until the new one comes out and sometimes even longer than that.
Yeah. I'm just saying you can have any feeling on the lack of exclusives that an one has an interest in or the overall market and how it doesn't gel with what one personally likes.
The problem just arises if the personal opinion on what should matter is not supported by the statistics in the very thread you post it in.
That's why I only see the two options there if you believe the PS4 is shit in that department. It's either it doesn't matter, or they are not shit but amazing. ;-)
RAIDEN1
Member
On another note how bland is the free PSN + games lineup for this month (May) is that in a way evidence of the relative weak catalogue of games so far that there isn't an abundance of titles Sony could give free to subscribers...
I can't remember the last time there was an outstanding line-up of games for free on PSN for the PS4...(having said that everyone has their favourite genre's) but at least on PS3 there were some stand outs, like MK, Assassin's Creed, GTA: Vice City, Sleeping Dogs, Jak and Daxter, to name but a few...
I can't remember the last time there was an outstanding line-up of games for free on PSN for the PS4...(having said that everyone has their favourite genre's) but at least on PS3 there were some stand outs, like MK, Assassin's Creed, GTA: Vice City, Sleeping Dogs, Jak and Daxter, to name but a few...
Kenshin001
Member
I think it's a lot of the latter but people buy on potential too. I always thought that if the PS4 were to launch at a comparable price point to its competitor Sony would regain market share in the US as most people bought the 360 last gen for CoD and Madden. Though given the great new IP that came out on PS3 people were expecting the same to happen on PS4 and that's yet to eventuate. Certainly there is nothing on an Uncharted or LBP level. You could argue Bloodborne but it's a Souls game in a slightly different skin.
Ask developers then to give you unfinished games. Maybe then you will be happy. Development takes time, so, STOP WHINING!
This generation sucks, no Watch Dogs 2.
boredandlazy
Member
You thinking they are bland doesn't mean everyone else thinks they are bland.
EmptySpace
Banned
uncharted didn't get the acclaim that it has until uc2 which was 2009, 3 years after ps3 launched.
there are also a lot of exclusives out right now, and are announced.
people are also discrediting downloadables for some reason.
ps3 exclusives didn't take off until 2009, which was 3 years into the life cycle. even then, games like god of war 3, heavy rain, gt5, etc. have yet to be released.
outunderthestars
Banned
Wow. Dial it down a bit. I wasn't whining, simply stating that we are two years into the new generation and many of the heavy hitters from last generation have not been announced/shown yet. Not sure how that would be considered WHINING.
El-Pistolero
Member
It has benn 17 months since the PS4 launched. That is less than a year and a half. In 2015 we have had MLB and Bloodborne, and we will have Rime, The Tomorrow Children, The Witness (Hopefully), Persona 5...Plus MGS5, Batman, Battlefront...
I don't know how you guys find such a catalog to be immaterial?
Notice how I left out 300,000 for strange people like you and Misterinenja.
FinalStageBoss
Banned
Somebody post that PS4 salt gif.
Zombie James
Banned
- Quality games.
- Reasonably priced.
- Solid hardware.
- Great features.
It's not that hard to understand.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
Was CoD confirmed to be Sony marketted?
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
I agree, the games look considerably better this gen, even if they don't match the best a PC offers.
That's more than enough reason for many.
MatrixMan.EXE
Member
How the hell did i know, that as per usual, a PS4 sales milestone thread would turn into list and metascore wars, because a vocal minority of bitter people can't find a single game to play out of the dozens available for the system? It's becoming pathetic at this point.
If, in 2015, you don't like the PS4 library whether its released or upcoming games, then I don't know what to tell you. What I do know is that, the majority don't agree since the assertion that PS4 has no games doesn't match up with the attach ratio or general software sales numbers. This schtick is getting so old.
We should be celebrating that at least one console this generation isn't floundering at in some shape or form. It's good for the industry, whether you have enough AAA exclusive games to beat your chest over on list wars or not.
If, in 2015, you don't like the PS4 library whether its released or upcoming games, then I don't know what to tell you. What I do know is that, the majority don't agree since the assertion that PS4 has no games doesn't match up with the attach ratio or general software sales numbers. This schtick is getting so old.
We should be celebrating that at least one console this generation isn't floundering at in some shape or form. It's good for the industry, whether you have enough AAA exclusive games to beat your chest over on list wars or not.
I play good games, i play shitty games and i play what is now in offer and i'm not worried why some "heavy hitter" isn't out there. Who gives a shit about that.
Maybe Gamescom again.
I think Gamescom was because with a little bit of fudging (or internal estimates) they could boast the 10 million.
I don't think it's because that will become a tradition, it will be more related to what is a marketing milestone win.
I've gotten tons of use out of my PS+. Couldn't care less about 3/5 of those games you listed, though. You're also failing to realize that those games you've listed came at a point in the PS3's life when there were far more titles available. Could be developers at this point know that some people are still buying those AAA titles, since the console is selling well, and don't want to give them away on PS+ just yet.
But, in general, I'll take the quality indie games we've been getting over the cookie cutter AAA games you've listed and many people seem to want from the service.
Happy to see the console doing well. I hope this means more Japanese games and collaborations from Sony.
Zombegoast
Member
Care more about games than optional features.
TouchMyBox
Member
How dare some people in this thread wish for there to be more sweet games for us to enjoy on our PS4s?
Can you quote the people that say that so they can respond. Otherwise you just shout into the void and everyone will just ignore you.
XxRampage07xX
Member
From this thread I learn that my PS4 literally has no game and games I've been playing are all created with my imagination.
Well they probably skipped any sales mentions at E3 because it didn't reach the 10 million milestone at that point yet. Don't see them getting to 25 million by E3, but at Gamescom? More likely imo.