James Sawyer Ford
Gold Member
I disagree, I think TLG looks phenomenal in 4K and the frame rate wasn't really bothersome
Definitely went with that mode over 1080p
Definitely went with that mode over 1080p
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PlayStation 4 Pro |Launch Thread| PS4 Reloaded
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When playing 1080p SDR games on a 4K TV, should the Pro's output resolution be set to 1080p, or 2160p - RGB? I see that it's set to 2160p - RGB when using the Automatic setting.
Also, if a game doesn't have a Pro patch but has framerate dips on the base PS4, the performance should still be better on the Pro, correct?
Also, if a game doesn't have a Pro patch but has framerate dips on the base PS4, the performance should still be better on the Pro, correct?
Soulja
Member
Some games such as the batman collection perform better but not all games.
Ok, I've figured out why a lot of games make the Pro fans go crazy. It's movies and menus that have unlocked frame rates. This exact problem happens in some PC games.
The loudest game fan wise is Mafia 3. I just did some tests, and the fans kick into overdrive whenever you access the map or menus. If you play the game for a minute without opening a menu or map, the fans calm down and the system gets quiet again.
Now, I was just playing Hitman, and my console is totally quiet when playing the game or accessing menus. HOWEVER, when the cutscene movies between missions play, the fans kick in big time and the console gets pretty loud.
I also noticed that the system gets pretty loud when playing the pre rendered cutscene movies in FFXV.
Basically what is happening is that developers aren't limiting frame rate to 30 or 60 fps, and letting the game render as fast as it can. So when a movie plays (or a 2D map or menu), there is so little CPU/GPU processing needed to display the movie that the frame rate can go up to 200-300 fps. This causes the GPU to get very hot, and that's why the fans kick in so loud.
The good news is that devs patched many PC games that this was a problem with.
The bad news is developers might not realize this is happening and will never get around to fixing it.
The loudest game fan wise is Mafia 3. I just did some tests, and the fans kick into overdrive whenever you access the map or menus. If you play the game for a minute without opening a menu or map, the fans calm down and the system gets quiet again.
Now, I was just playing Hitman, and my console is totally quiet when playing the game or accessing menus. HOWEVER, when the cutscene movies between missions play, the fans kick in big time and the console gets pretty loud.
I also noticed that the system gets pretty loud when playing the pre rendered cutscene movies in FFXV.
Basically what is happening is that developers aren't limiting frame rate to 30 or 60 fps, and letting the game render as fast as it can. So when a movie plays (or a 2D map or menu), there is so little CPU/GPU processing needed to display the movie that the frame rate can go up to 200-300 fps. This causes the GPU to get very hot, and that's why the fans kick in so loud.
The good news is that devs patched many PC games that this was a problem with.
The bad news is developers might not realize this is happening and will never get around to fixing it.
MAX PAYMENT
Member
I'm not sure what the pro update does for return to arkham, but city looks great. I never played it before the patch.
I agree. Played on 4k and the framerate was pretty good and the game looked crisp.
This happened with the OG PS4 too.
Nostremitus
Member
Man, trying to enjoy Uncharted 4, but the frame rate is giving me motion sickness.
I mean, damn.
I just finished the Nathan Drake Collection and it was great, but now, I don't think I'm going to be able to finish the series...
It's a shame, it's a beautiful game until you start moving and the low fps and motionblur trying to hide it turn in into a mess. All I'm seeing is judder across the entire screen that my eyes are trying to track, it's giving me a headache...
I'm having the same issue with Ratchet and Clank...
Edit: I may have to disable HDR and turn on motion smoothing if I want to finish the story... Artifacts, input lag, and loss of HDR will be worth it if it means i get to finish the game... Damned shame.
I mean, damn.
I just finished the Nathan Drake Collection and it was great, but now, I don't think I'm going to be able to finish the series...
It's a shame, it's a beautiful game until you start moving and the low fps and motionblur trying to hide it turn in into a mess. All I'm seeing is judder across the entire screen that my eyes are trying to track, it's giving me a headache...
I'm having the same issue with Ratchet and Clank...
Edit: I may have to disable HDR and turn on motion smoothing if I want to finish the story... Artifacts, input lag, and loss of HDR will be worth it if it means i get to finish the game... Damned shame.
Hockeyguy412
Banned
Was there a patch for it recently I know it had horrible framerates
Maybe just step away from it for a couple of days
Yes. Backup only copies, it does not move and delete source data. But your accounts can be activated only on one console. One one console you will need to play as guest.
edit - I only used backup via USB stick, I don't know what happens with LAN cable transfer.
MAX PAYMENT
Member
Yep. As of a couple days ago.
MAX PAYMENT
Member
I think the drab color makes it unimpressive.
eastx
Member
Anyone can play your games on the console you designate as the primary system. On the secondary system, the owner of the games will need to be signed in to play them, and only that person can play them.
BigEmil
Junior Member
It's not the framerate it's the high motion blur that is likely the culprit to your motion sickness. Either turn the motion blur down in the games setting or completely turn it off.
Pocky4Th3Win
Member
So just got a pro, what's the recommended video settings? I got a Sony 65x850C which supports 4K and HDR.
Hockeyguy412
Banned
Cool hopefully I hear feedback about how it performs now. The performance is what is keeping me from purchasing it.
Futurematic
Member
Yeah it's a weird screw up to be having, and as mentioned above has been ongoing since the launch of the system. Perhaps the dev tools have the default setting like that and some developers miss changing it.
I've been having an issue where my ps4 won't turn on from rest mode and the orange light blinks endlessly. It's happened about 4 times now (twice after rest mode playing doom and another in ps4 menu). I had to force the console off everytime which gave me the building system data/data corruption warning when turning it back on. Anyone know how to prevent this ?
Humdinger
Gold Member
I had a similar problem on my original PS4, and I fixed it by rebuilding the database (I believe that's the term). It wiped everything (all my saves, etc.), but it fixed the problem.
I had some issues on earlier firmware but nothing recently. What version are you on?
Nostremitus
Member
I turned it off, it didn't stop the horrible judder.
The game just turns to ass as soon as the camera pans.
I'm in the same boat as you but I got mine mainly for PSVR at the moment. 4k can wait a little bit longer.
MrOogieBoogie
BioShock Infinite is like playing some homeless guy's vivid imagination
Um, my two-week old PS4 Pro is not turning on. No signal to TV. It was last left in rest mode. Now it just blinks a blue light on and off, and I can't boot the PS4 into safe mode nor can I turn it on via the controller, which doesn't seem synced.
What's the issue here? Is it safe for me to unplug the power cable from the PS4 Pro to force total shutdown and try turning it on again?
EDIT: Huh. Weird. I held the power button longer this time and it forced a shutdown. Turned the PS4 on again and it did a file storage check. Then I got a message advising me to not unplug the A/C cable while my console is in rest mode (which I didn't do). Otherwise, it seems to be working again.
Anyone know why the strange hang-up after putting the system in rest mode?
What's the issue here? Is it safe for me to unplug the power cable from the PS4 Pro to force total shutdown and try turning it on again?
EDIT: Huh. Weird. I held the power button longer this time and it forced a shutdown. Turned the PS4 on again and it did a file storage check. Then I got a message advising me to not unplug the A/C cable while my console is in rest mode (which I didn't do). Otherwise, it seems to be working again.
Anyone know why the strange hang-up after putting the system in rest mode?
Nostremitus
Member
Did your power flicker at all?
Me too, buddy. Just picked it up today. I'm eyeing this entry level Samsung 4K for $300 to tide me over for a year or so.
I also want PSVR though. Ugh.
M.W.
Gold Member
The UI on my Pro chugs worse than my OG. Plus it's frozen up a handful of times too.
That's odd. Mine is much faster, especially notice it when scrolling through my library, the thumbnails load dramatically faster.
Did you use the data transfer from an old PS4? I know with most OS's a fresh install sometimes clears up issues. Also maybe try to rebuild the database.
StrongBlackVine
Banned
Super fast for me. I'm using a SSD though.
Fantastical
Death Prophet
Fuck. I suddenly got an impulse to trade my PS4 in for a Pro... problem is I left FFXV in the console.
Luckily I traded it in right before they closed and I'll call first thing tomorrow but damn that was dumb. I'm used to digital games and that was physical.
Luckily I traded it in right before they closed and I'll call first thing tomorrow but damn that was dumb. I'm used to digital games and that was physical.
Hockeyguy412
Banned
This happened to me so I returned it to gamestop before the 30 days and got a new one but I think my new one has a bad power supply. When I am in a game I hear clicking sound almost like a loud hard drive
gray_fox224
Junior Member
Amazon has these used for 359.99 through their warehouse deals...I don't know if I should bite...
dreamer3kx
Member
Oh damn, hopefully can retrieve.
Omegabalmung9
Member
Only game so far that chugs for me is the division but only because the division is a mess right now for me on ps4.
Could definitely use some help TV shopping GAF, any advice SUPER appreciated.
So I just beat TLG on my 1080p mode on my new Pro. Loved it, and happy the experience was pretty smooth, but I definitely felt like I was missing out on the lack of HDR on my set. I want to make the most of my purchase and am looking at new TVs now!
I have a 32" Samsung TV on my desk rn as both a desktop monitor and gaming setup. I like this setup a lot and don't really want to go smaller if I don't have to. What can I get that's somewhere between 30"-40" for $499 or less? Would it be worth it?
thx love yall <3
So I just beat TLG on my 1080p mode on my new Pro. Loved it, and happy the experience was pretty smooth, but I definitely felt like I was missing out on the lack of HDR on my set. I want to make the most of my purchase and am looking at new TVs now!
I have a 32" Samsung TV on my desk rn as both a desktop monitor and gaming setup. I like this setup a lot and don't really want to go smaller if I don't have to. What can I get that's somewhere between 30"-40" for $499 or less? Would it be worth it?
thx love yall <3
I'm happy with FFXV's lite mode, the frame pacing was definitely too much for me on high mode. Switching down to lite mode... it felt like my eyes unclenched. I know that's not a thing but it's the only way to describe the sensation lol.
HDR works wonders with XV, so pretty.
HDR works wonders with XV, so pretty.
17 Seconds
Banned
what's the best option for upgrading from a launch ps4 now? gamestop is down to $125 trade in (100 for cash).
Kudo
Member
No, option is grayed out.
Thanks man!
