Should it look like this?
No. Check your settings.
I think the Pro will only output in 1080 or 2160. So in your case it'll probably do 1080 which the monitor will upcale. Hopefully someone who has tried it can tell you more though!
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No. Check your settings.
I think the Pro will only output in 1080 or 2160. So in your case it'll probably do 1080 which the monitor will upcale. Hopefully someone who has tried it can tell you more though!
Yep. It looks and runs fine as far as I can tell. They haven't patched it or anything to take advantage of the pro, but it appears to run/look at least the same as it did on the regular PS4.
Dalibor_San
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That kind of sucks, so pretty much I should be holding off then, I guess IPS should still offer a nice downsampled image with better colours, to buy or not to buy
Thanks for the quick answer.
Turn the console off completely (hold power button until second beep) then turn on by holding power for 7 seconds (until second beep) this will launch Safe Mode you should be able to find an option that can help out, change resolution or restore default settings. If all else fails download the 4.05 software and "reinitialize" your system. WARNING Initializing will wipe your console.
EDIT: NVM posted before your edit, good work.
With all the talk of HDR and 4K no one's really talked about vertical VS horizontal. I remember when vertical was bad for the longevity of either PS3 or PS4, something about airflow, temperatures and heat dissipation or the disc drive or something. Is it too early to know what the verdict is for the Pro ? Are there vents in both of the gaps between the 3 layers ?
Hm I ran though limited and full rgb. All looked the same. Setting it to YUV420 washed out the color. Setting to rgb or automatic made it look like the screenshot.
AVS forum people were recommending to set it all to automatic, which I have tried.
The screen was from the share button, which should have nothing to do with my tv settings right?
Pretty sure they still haven't shipped their No Man's Sky special edition either..
lol I forgot about that too, but I'll have to try with a blu-ray movie cause it's been over a year since the last time I owned a game disc.
Dalibor_San
Member
Thanks, so pretty much I should avoid the PRO if I have a 1440P monitor,good to know.
Luckily i still have Killzone from the starter bundle on release in 2013, actually now i think of it i think i still have Dragon Age inquisition too.
Hmm. Not sure what else to suggest really. Are you using the same HDMI input you've used for movies?
I just saw this on the rtings review when talking about supported resolutions
Wondering if it's because your Pro is outputting 4:2:2 and the TV doesn't like it maybe? Also from the thread on HardForum, it seems that HDMI 5 has different support than 1-4?
We'll if its a choice of a PS4 or a Pro, a Pro will still look better. Though its not the ideal solution, the Pro rendering at over 1080, supersampling down to 1080 and then your screen scaling back up to 1440 will look cleaner than just having a PS4 render at 1080 and your monitor upscaling to 1440.
therealminime
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For reference, I have a PC with a 6700k and a 1080 in it and play at 3440x1440.
Finally got all of the backing up and updating done with my Pro and Ratchet was the first thing I launched and it looks "holy fuck" good (that's what I said out loud when I saw it). Seriously incredible. Pretty much as amazing as seeing DOOM at 4K/60 on the same screen (powered by the PC). No HDR unfortunately for me yet.
Uncharted 4 I didn't really notice too much of a difference though, at least the difference wasn't as instantly noticeable as Ratchet.
Yeah I knew that going into UC4 which is why I tested it next. I'm curious to test TLOU since it's got the two modes. See if the image quality change is really noticable between 1800p and 2160p.
Finally got all of the backing up and updating done with my Pro and Ratchet was the first thing I launched and it looks "holy fuck" good (that's what I said out loud when I saw it). Seriously incredible. Pretty much as amazing as seeing DOOM at 4K/60 on the same screen (powered by the PC). No HDR unfortunately for me yet.
Uncharted 4 I didn't really notice too much of a difference though, at least the difference wasn't as instantly noticeable as Ratchet.
Yeah I knew that going into UC4 which is why I tested it next. I'm curious to test TLOU since it's got the two modes. See if the image quality change is really noticable between 1800p and 2160p.
Garrett Hawke
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Unfortunately UC4 is just a plain 1440p upscale. No trickery or anything so it is a little underwhelming.
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I'm really enjoying my Pro so far. Just been playing ROTTR in the 4K mode and a little bit of the new FFXV demo and it's just so nice having nearly all of the aliasing eliminated. Really great work.
Dalibor_San
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I already have a PS4 and used it on my monitor and it looks decent, I'm just trying to see if spending $500 will be worth it for a machine that will just down sample and then upscale.
So pretty much PS4 PRO on a 1080P TV will look worse then on my 1440P monitor, right?
I understand it's not that clear cut but pretty much it will still look superior then on a 1080P display, right?
Thanks.
lowhighkang_LHK
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Hey guys. I have a 28inch Samsung Monitor 4k.
Yet for some reason, when I go to the sound and screen option settings on the PS4, the 2160p options are labeled as unsupported. The fuck?
This is my monitor:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00YD3DBOC/?tag=neogaf0e-20
It even says this:
Connectivity for UHD-compatible devices
You can connect multiple Ultra HD devices, like PCs and gaming consoles, to the UE590. There are two HDMI inputs as well as one Display Port input on the back panel. Enjoy upgraded HDMI support with an upgraded HDMI (v2.0) that supports UHD resolutions at a 60Hz refresh rate, so 4K content plays smoothly without delay.
Should I try different HDMI cables?
Yet for some reason, when I go to the sound and screen option settings on the PS4, the 2160p options are labeled as unsupported. The fuck?
This is my monitor:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00YD3DBOC/?tag=neogaf0e-20
It even says this:
Connectivity for UHD-compatible devices
You can connect multiple Ultra HD devices, like PCs and gaming consoles, to the UE590. There are two HDMI inputs as well as one Display Port input on the back panel. Enjoy upgraded HDMI support with an upgraded HDMI (v2.0) that supports UHD resolutions at a 60Hz refresh rate, so 4K content plays smoothly without delay.
Should I try different HDMI cables?
According to the Q&A it only supports 4k 60hz over displayport
What is the refresh rate at 4k?
DisplayPort 1.2 : 60Hz
HDMI 1.4 : 30Hz
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Reviewers say likewise
"Something to note if you haven't done much research yet is that this monitor will not give you 60Hz with HDMI, you will only get 30Hz,"
A Pro rendering a game at say 1440p and downsampling to 1080 will look better on a 1080 screen than it will on a 1440p screen.
When on a 1080 screen, the image is simply downsampled and that's it.
To use a 1440 screen, the image will first be down sampled to 1080 to output to the monitor, which will then upscale back to 1440.
If your screen can somehow accept a 2160p image and downsample it itself, then all is good.
However. A Pro doing all that on your 1440 screen will look better than a PS4 on a 1080 screen or your 1440 screen.
Dalibor_San
Member
Perfect, thanks man you explained it perfectly, I understand completely, pretty much it will be a gamble as it depends on the studio and the resolution the game will downsample from. So I will be holding off the pro even if it does look better then the PS4, just not worth the investment for slightly better image.
Will the Thrill
Banned
So anyone with a Pro and Ratchet and Clank who played that on Base PS4, does the Pro fix the FPS issues at all? Like the Pixelater mixed in with other enemies and stuff just tanks the frame rate for me every now and then on my regular PS4, more so than I expected sometimes.
lowhighkang_LHK
Member
Anyway to convert the HDMI out from PS4 to a display port in to the TV? Will that work?
Playing infamous first light and the game is definitely dark but not in a black crush way. I mean it is night time and when I switch HDR everything almost looks too bright (like the lights on the cars have much less natural looking light)
It yeah. Certain alleyways are almost black
It yeah. Certain alleyways are almost black
just buy an adapter, they're a couple of quid, or a displayport to HDMI cable, just make sure it supports high speed for 4k 60hz
Mister Megative
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So far I'm loving my Pro. Any indication from Osiris or Abdiel on how it's selling?
fastford58
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Probably been asked a thousand times:
Do I have to manually download patches for pro enabled games or are they updated automatically?
Danke
Do I have to manually download patches for pro enabled games or are they updated automatically?
Danke
Maybe by stormblood.
I've been looking into this myself. So far I haven't found an HDMI->DisplayPort active converter that can handle 4K60.
(I have the same problem on a BenQ 32" 4K with HDMI 1.4 ports)
lowhighkang_LHK
Member
So if I'm sending an HDMI out from the PS4, then converting it to the display port in via adapter, would that still give me 4k at 60 hz?
If it was that simple it seems kind of silly that they wouldn't just do that internally in the monitor's hardware?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0144NS4Z6/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Because this thing right here looks like it caps out at 4k30hz, and thus I'll be facing the same problems as before right?
lowhighkang_LHK
Member
Yeah, it sucks. I got the Pro thinking it would be put my 4k monitor to good use but it seems if it's not 4k60 the Pro won't recognize it.
And yeah, any converters will just give you 4k30 which is just replicating the problem.
StrongBlackVine
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Pre-orders were strong. No update since release.
lowhighkang_LHK
Member
The UPTab DisplayPort 1.2 to HDMI 2.0a Active Adapter enables your DisplayPort supported computer to connect to an HDMI UltraHD display. This adapter is ideal for those engaged in high level computing, gaming and graphics by providing the highest performance available. With HDMI 2.0a throughput up to 18Gbps, the DisplayPort 1.2 to HDMI 2.0a adapter is ideal for when 4K video combined with a smooth, 60Hz frame rate is desired.
Connect the DisplayPort end of the connector to your computer and plug your existing HDMI cable from the display into the adapter. The adapter converts the DisplayPort video signal into an HDMI signal at up to UHD 4K 4096x2160@60Hz.
Hmm, unfortunately it seems this product is in reverse from what I need. This looks like it's talking about converting a Display Port output to a HDMI input.
I need an HDMI output converted to a Display Port input while maintaining 4k60. I found one that does 4k30, but the Pro won't register that.
lowhighkang_LHK
Member
Well in that case, fuck.
DangerMouse
Member
Just to be thorough, have you tried both HDMI ports?
According to this they say both ports are 2.0 (although that Amazon Q&A indeed said it's 1.4), however a user posted that it may just be HDMI 2 that properly supports 2.0 if either of them do, did you try plugging it into that one and then restarting the system and going back into Screen and Sound to see if it enabled at least one of the two 4K settings?
http://4k.com/monitor/a-review-of-t...e590-28-inch-screen-u28e590d-led-lit-monitor/
Out of curiosity, when you go to Video Output Information what does it show for current video and particularly HDCP?
mordecaii83
Member
Mine doesn't look like that, no black crush or color issues and the HDR makes the Neon power and the Sun look bright as hell, along with better color detail all around.
MrPressStart
Member
This is small but I have to ask. If I wasn't chasing a 2 year old around I wound take a pic. On the console itself, when you power it on (laying the console flat). The light on the disc tray shat goes across the front does not loook evenly distributed. It's hard to explain and may be designed that way.
Mr. PlayStation
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The box will say Enhanced with Pro, in this case TitanFall 2 doesn't come with Pro features in the disc, the path does it for you, is what I am told. The patch is just 90megs and then there's another patch that downloads once you boot the game to the main screen. FYI, the game looks superb on Pro, both SP and MP, 1080p supersampled 60fps!
lowhighkang_LHK
Member
Ok I tried HDMI port 2. The two 2160p options are still blacked out. Under video output information it says : 1920 x 1080p - 60hz. Color Format RGB, HDR Not supported. HDCP 1.4
breakfuss
Member
What are you asking? If that's how it's supposed to look? Yeah, I believe others raised that concern earlier. Looking at mine now and it fades to the right.
Quote
Member
So I pulled the trigger on the hamburger of a console. I don't know what game I should play/buy to play in 4K. What is the "must play". I hear Ratchet and Clank is amazing but I have never liked a R&C game (granted I haven't played one since early PS3)
I know what you mean, mine is the same way but I think it's by design. It fades to nothing too quickly on the right side but if you think about it the OG PS4 does the same towards the back.
sabertoothzombie
Member
Tried to fix my issue with PlayStation support in a variety of ways:
- Turn HDR to Auto
- Set it to 1080
- Try different HDMI cables
- Try different HDMI ports
- Factory Reset
- Try different tv
Nothing worked. At least Amazon will send a replacement so long as I exchange this one. Still sucks though.
- Turn HDR to Auto
- Set it to 1080
- Try different HDMI cables
- Try different HDMI ports
- Factory Reset
- Try different tv
Nothing worked. At least Amazon will send a replacement so long as I exchange this one. Still sucks though.
I have this same exact monitor. It probably won't work. Same issue.