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PlayStation 5 share in France vs Xbox reaches 93% vs 7%
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tommib
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Reported.
ChuckeRearmed
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Most of those countries has lower gdp than Microsoft's market cap so...Probably because they can’t understand the complaints from the non English speaking countries.
lol. It is hilarious to see all these takes about "jeopardizing future" when the one who is desperately trying to increase console numbers by treating PS Portal a console...
I do find it funny how often these articles pop up recently. It is rivalling IGN's reposting their Starfield score
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N30RYU
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Are you french then? 'Cause your opinion meams shit to me
Crayon
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I think this is finally catching up with them. The viral/social marketing ratcheted up when the Xbo (and strangely, windows 8) came out. Eventually, hearing game pass name dropped 300 times a day since exactly the day it was announced and every day since has been at best conspicuous, and at worst culty.
It's hard to tell the exact dynamics but I would boil it down to the community becoming insular which has a lot to do with how outsiders view them. When you meet an Xbox fan irl and even they start trying to sell you on gp, that's weird. That and the decision makers seem to get sucked into it, like a form of audience capture. I'd point to the instant classic PS5 reveal day memo from Phil fixated the 'power' of 12tf and the resulting edge it will surely give them. The admitted emotionality and blindly optimistic declaration of victory (in the power narrative. One of many.) looks like a classic fanboy mentality to me.
lol keep up the spirits, it will all be good in a decade, or two
bender
What time is it?
94% market share will surely cure Sony's desperation.
Guilty_AI
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That wasn't an opinion, just a worldly fact
ChuckeRearmed
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It just tells you even more that these console sales don't matter - if they need Portal to prop up their numbers (like that crutch for Slim model).
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MisterXDTV
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It's time to take your medicine, it's late...
bender
What time is it?
ChuckeRearmed
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Go hug a couple of sales charts. Don't forget to play some COD
Post ABK, I find all these topics about "xbox dying" and "ps outselling xbox" hilariously cute.
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jm89
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It's obvious you aren't taking these sales threads very well. Same coping replies over and over.
Take a break, hug that phil doll if it helps.
//DEVIL//
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if my xbox series X wasn't a halo limited edition sealed. I would have got rid of it long time ago.
Not because Xbox sucks. it really doesn't. but when you have a high end pc ? yeah...
The good thing I buy MS first party games from their store. So,, i am kinda getting free copy of the game on Xbox. so the hardware cost it self is not the end of the word.
Not because Xbox sucks. it really doesn't. but when you have a high end pc ? yeah...
The good thing I buy MS first party games from their store. So,, i am kinda getting free copy of the game on Xbox. so the hardware cost it self is not the end of the word.
TheThreadsThatBindUs
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Phil Spencer about to go and cry to Congress again.
ChuckeRearmed
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Considering how many threads people are making about Xbox, I am not sure who is coping there (especially post ABK it has intensified like crazy). Sometimes I feel like Playstation folks care more about Xbox than Xbox folks
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love the stupid emoji after each sentence, perfectly projects the nervous breakdown you are experiencingConsidering how many threads people are making about Xbox, I am not sure who is coping there (especially post ABK it has intensified like crazy). Sometimes I feel like Playstation folks care more about Xbox than Xbox folks
Woopah
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Sony has asked Circana to track Portal as hardware and not an accessory.
That doesn't mean Portal numbers get added to PS5 numbers. Nothing is being inflated.
Ronin_7
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WHAT has Activision to do with Xbox hardware situation?Go hug a couple of sales charts. Don't forget to play some COD
Post ABK, I find all these topics about "xbox dying" and "ps outselling xbox" hilariously cute.
Activision makes software that ships everywhere, it's not gonna help Xbox unless CoD went exclusive.
ChuckeRearmed
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It is not being inflated, the point is that Sony is using PS Portal as a console (handheld I guess in this case) to increase overall Playstation console sales (probably to tell shareholders that they have the response to Nintendo Switch or Switch 2).
I find it ironic that you are mentioning "projection" here.
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DenchDeckard
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Obviously not enough.
I completely agree, but a 100 dollar cheaper than ps5 series x with a lackluster line up of AAA blockbusters would definitely help until they could get some games out...which i hope they can...but I just don't know at this point....I've given them 3 years and while I personally enjoy starfield and forza they are missing that special something and level of polish I expect from them.
Tbh this generation is doomed for Xbox and I was completely in the camp that it couldn't be worse than the xbox one generation. They had the hardware and completely floundered on the software for three years straight. Embarrassing and I'm a fan. They make it too easy to be hated and I don't know how they turn that around now.
Do I personally enjoy my xboxs and their platform...yes..I do...but I also expect more from them and I'm not surprised they are floundering so badly.
MacReady13
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I've been saying this for a while and I will continue to say it- Microsoft's continued focus on game pass over quality games will be their downfall. As great as service as the shills think it is, it's not doing them ANY favours whatsoever to help sell consoles (which is their biggest game pass market).
They had opportunities to grab people's attention- Halo on series X/S was a failure. Starfield has been a mess on console and PC. Forza is a buggy mess. Redfall is shit. They just continue to keep releasing "content" for game pass thinking that will be enough! Do they not realize us gamers do not give a FUCK about having 200 games on tap when the large majority are mediocre at best.
They had opportunities to grab people's attention- Halo on series X/S was a failure. Starfield has been a mess on console and PC. Forza is a buggy mess. Redfall is shit. They just continue to keep releasing "content" for game pass thinking that will be enough! Do they not realize us gamers do not give a FUCK about having 200 games on tap when the large majority are mediocre at best.
SkylineRKR
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Series X is 100 euros cheaper right now. And it doesn't move much.
MS does PC day one and pushes their services beyond their console, so you don't really need an Xbox. For me its weird that they're even in the hardware business to begin with. Consoles are usually being sold at a loss. They have the Windows platform, and a lot of third party IP now. I think its easier for them to just go third party, and release their games on PC, PS5, Switch and everywhere else.
Perhaps they will in the near future, now that they have ABK and Zenimax. I wonder if they try again with a next-gen console despite the rumors. It makes little sense for me business wise.
MS does PC day one and pushes their services beyond their console, so you don't really need an Xbox. For me its weird that they're even in the hardware business to begin with. Consoles are usually being sold at a loss. They have the Windows platform, and a lot of third party IP now. I think its easier for them to just go third party, and release their games on PC, PS5, Switch and everywhere else.
Perhaps they will in the near future, now that they have ABK and Zenimax. I wonder if they try again with a next-gen console despite the rumors. It makes little sense for me business wise.
Woopah
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All we know so far is that Sony has asked the tracker of the North America market to include that device in the hardware column instead of the accessory column. That doesn't increase PS5 hardware sales, and there is no total "PlayStation console" figure that Circana releases.
They havn't said anything on how they will report Portal sales to investors. They may mention it in their next quaterly briefing, but we don't know if they will regulalry release hardware sales like they do for PS5.
SkylineRKR
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Gamepass is a catch 22 to me. If you don't play many games its not viable, and if you play a lot you'll likely want to play the latest big releases that we saw this year ie. RE4R, MK1, Cyberpunk PL, AW2 etc. If you play these games, you're better off just buying Starfield and not pay a recurring fee for it.
The odd MS exclusive so far on there doesn't deliver.
ChuckeRearmed
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Basically for ecosystem. Essentially Xbox is akin Mac ecosystem if we consider Play Anywhere. Kinda. Without your own hardware you basically have to depend on somebody else for your content.
I do wonder what would happen if they did not scrap Windows Phone and stuck with it till now. Satya mentioned that he did regret cancelling Windows Phone. Would be curious to see where we would be now with it. Especially with android app support on windows.
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Bernoulli
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That's the problem
I think if they did a 250 bundle with the S and MW3 during black friday it will sell like hot cakes but they did it on the X that no one buys
Oddvintagechap
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probably the population with highly asymmetrical thumbs that was trying to force Playstation to morph their controller to their special physical needs.
It’s still wild to me Microsoft not being able to fund a consistent flow of games.
Also anyone that argued Xbox Series S was a good idea was completely wrong.
SkylineRKR
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The XSS was a mistake and I say this as an owner. It was a fun console during the pandemic, as it was readily available. A good gateway to GP, which during that time was still kind of worthwhile as releases were far and few inbetween in general.. it was much different from today. The console surprised me, I had it before my PS5 and it was fast, silent.. it was a step above my PS4 Pro. I played the likes of Yakuza 7 at 60fps and without load times, it was pretty neat.
But the Series S kind of backfired. I doubt it was ever meant to be MS' premier seller (they changed their narrative on it over time), and we've witnessed the Baldurs Gate clusterfuck. MS is now in a position of what to push during Holiday, and they already lifted their parity clause which made Larian release the game without splitscreen which opens opportunities for more developers.
But the Series S kind of backfired. I doubt it was ever meant to be MS' premier seller (they changed their narrative on it over time), and we've witnessed the Baldurs Gate clusterfuck. MS is now in a position of what to push during Holiday, and they already lifted their parity clause which made Larian release the game without splitscreen which opens opportunities for more developers.
Moses85
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Tell this ColtEastwood Klobrille and all the other Clowns.
TheGodfather07
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Most of those countries has lower gdp than Microsoft's market cap so...
lol. It is hilarious to see all these takes about "jeopardizing future" when the one who is desperately trying to increase console numbers by treating PS Portal a console...
I do find it funny how often these articles pop up recently. It is rivalling IGN's reposting their Starfield score
Ps portal is separate, dumbass. It's not going to be lumped in with PS5. Atleast get your facts straight if your gonna have a meltdown over a factual sales thread.
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I Love Rock 'n' Roll
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France to light the world once more.
Sorry Xbox, we loved you before but now it's time to go.
Sorry Xbox, we loved you before but now it's time to go.
HeWhoWalks
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Seems that way.
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MasterCornholio
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Well dumping is illegal so there are limits.
bitbydeath
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Engagement is at an all-time high at least, with threads like this one, sales collapsing in Europe, and Microsoft planning to exit the gaming business.
HeWhoWalks
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Who said this?
bitbydeath
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Phil.
Gambit2483
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Bruh, this shit made me spit my drink out.
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ZoukGalaxy
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My cat just found the 7% owners, it's actually only one person.
Sorry, he's dead meow.
Sorry, he's dead meow.
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yurinka
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The thing is that most people who doesn't buy it wouldn't even buy it at $99. Their problem isn't the price.
Their problem is that their direct competition has way more great games that are available on PS but not in Xbox (this includes multiplatform games not released on Xbox) than the opposite. Plus a cheaper game sub with more and better games. Plus VR.
And well, all Xbox games are on PC and released day one, so people don't need to buy their console. And even in PC, since all their games are in day one they don't even need to buy them.
yurinka
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OMG, Hirai was a though fucking yakuza. This slide was trully merciless! xDDD
I Gotchu back broConsidering how many threads people are making about Xbox, I am not sure who is coping there (especially post ABK it has intensified like crazy). Sometimes I feel like Playstation folks care more about Xbox than Xbox folks
Xbox/Phil lives rent free in their minds eh eh eh
Gamepass rulez xoxo
gow3isben
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Bullshit. Scott Steiner told me different.
I mentioned that recently that Xbox publicly calling countries Tier 2 did untold damage.
LOL at that asian looking bald guy's expression on the left
SidViscous
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11-1 sales is pretty brutal, the French have surrendered with better odds than that!