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Tom Messi.
I mean, there's women football. And apparently it's quite more brutal than the male counterpart (where most male football players whine like little bitches for every little thing)
This. Konami would have been pissed and Sony probably valued them a lot more than EA I think.
Whatever happened with Sega and EA? I know that EA pulled their games from Sega's platforms. Was it because Sega decided to make some sports games themselves (that were in direct competition to EA's stuff?) or was it that EA pulled their sports games because of some deals with other platform manufacturers (Sony) and Sega had to fill the gaps themselves (which pissed off EA)?
No idea. I was a kid back then and did not really follow the industry. But I remember reading here on Neogaf that Microsoft did all they could to interest them on the Xbox, like ending their own sport game(s?). Sega with the myriads of problems they had at the time probably burned too many bridges with them and with options elsewhere EA just abandonned them I think.
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
should know better. A little help?
Thanks for the input! So that's how it was...
Really? That doesn’t make sense because Sony had NFL Gameday with 989 Studios.
I think there is a fifa movie on Netflix. Or I remember some streaming service having a miniseries abut the creation of fifa.
I just watched the finals of womens football between the 2 bigest clubs in my country, and was like watching 15 year olds rookie players play. They had some good ball controll skills, but lacked speed and power. Its like watching a friendly match.
Yes and Total NBA etc. But it could make sense. Sony with its installed base was hard to ignore for any publisher, perhaps EA thought they had some leverage on Sega who was ofcourse in a very dire position. I can imagine you don't want direct competition on a Sega console since its userbase was so small.
I am not really a sports game enthusiast. What happened with PES? I remember reading in magazines about "FIFA vs. PES!" for some years. And then PES kinda seemed to have faded away. Was it mishandling of the IP by Konami?
There was a rumor back then then EA pirated the developers from PES and that made Fifa better. I don’t know how true that was.
Is there anything to gain with it now though?
Well the question is valid - whether EA would have been as successful as they are today without it. The game makes them close to half of their annual revenue...
Surely this one. She was great in Sex Education on Netflix
It’s not the FIFA licence though, that’s the point, that licence effectively gives you nothing, EA have negotiated deals with each league and clubs individually, if Sony acquired the rights it would have been no different to Pro Evo, just called FIFA with fake club names and fake player names, exactly as the early FIFA games actually were, the YouTube video I posted explains it all, there was nothing whatsoever stopping Sony accusing these individual rights and making a football game. Pro Evo was the better game for years and years but it was the authenticity of the club names and individual licences that EA negotiated separately that grew EA’s games into what they are, not being called “FIFA”
I imagine he wants out of Man Utd but, I can't see what major team would want a train wreck like him in the dressing room and pay what United are paying. His agent needs to pull the finger out and get him to focus so people see a professional. Some wasted talent. Is he still up until 3am playing FIFA?
No idea. I was a kid back then and did not really follow the industry. But I remember reading here on Neogaf that Microsoft did all they could to interest them on the Xbox, like ending their own sport game(s?). Sega with the myriads of problems they had at the time probably burned too many bridges with them and with options elsewhere EA just abandonned them I think.
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more or less answered what happened. They mention the gist of it. EA wanted total privilege of sports games on Dreamcast but Sega already purchased Visual Concepts (should've been Lobotomy Software IMHO) and had plans to do sports games in-house. Now, we know that's probably because of how poorly things went with getting 3P to do sports games for the Saturn, going by remarks in the leaked Sega documents.
SkylineRKR
didn't know about the specific terms of that deal involving other 3P sports games. EA were out of their minds by the late '90s. Definitely a bad period for them in terms of their business greed/sensibilities.
I see this as the general theme from a lot of former PES players, my brother included, but the game continues to get better and still retain the origins.
You miss the point that they were only able to do that after cornering the market via the Fifa brand to have credibility to get those licenses. Anyone that could go interview any number of past football game dev companies in the UK around the ps1 to ps2 would tell you that even getting licenses for individual player endorsement became very expensive, and did little to sell games. David Beckham Soccer with Sony doing the first full body mo-cap of a player cost them millions IIRC and despite being a better game than Fifa at the time, couldn't compete.
Funny, the way Microsoft tells it Sony made everything exclusive to stop other consoles having it. Ironic considering Sony also saved Square from bankruptcy and now they're releasing games on all platforms. Kinda makes you wonder if they're lying huh?
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Of course it's just tit for tat. You pay for exclusive rights, we pay for exclusive publisher. Simple arrangement I'm sure. Though I imagine Microsoft will run out of publishers before Sony run out of franchises. Then again maybe not. There's less than ten major publishers in the world on consoles right now is there now?
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And like Grit mentioned, EA had shares in 3DFX, who were a frontrunner for the Dreamcast tech until a court case happened and 3DFx leaked about Dreamcast in the case. Sega of Japan hated that, and kicked them to the curb, so EA was screwed in a way as well. No EA support for Dreamcast was a heavy blow in the West but I'm also kind of glad it happened as EA were clearly trying to take advantage of Sega the same way they did getting their special licensing deal on the Genesis/MegaDrive (after reverse-engineering that system to bypass the lockout and threatening to go to market with unlicensed games).
It somewhat humbled EA at the time I suppose...or it should've. We know what they actually wound up doing though (buying exclusivity to NFL license for Madden, basically killing the NFL 2K series outright).
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This is probably why 7th-gen EA became so well-liked (at least for a time); they seemed humbled and started adding variety back to their lineup again (Dead Space, Mirror's Edge, etc.).
From a technical point of view, EA's Fifa in 97 was way, way behind most dev studios producing full 3D football games, as it still played orthographic sprite based.. Even their World Cup France 98 is little more than a war of attrition of from sliding tackles followed by running from button hammering, pass or shoot, and this was no different even at the Japanese PS2 launch, as I remember a work colleague getting one imported with Fifa and it playing the exact same as it had for years, so the license was all that differentiated them for sales success at the time, and even looking back to their USA 94 sensible soccer clone on Snes showed that the license was doing all the heavy lifting for them, so I think more talented teams without the pressure of being different to get sales would have benefitted the wider footy game development far more than EA owning the license.
Sony had its own sport simulations line at the time (NFL GameDay was a serious treat to Madden in 1997 and 1998*) so certainly isn't the presence of sport simulations in the first-party lineup the real reason of the rift between EA and Sega.
