Yoshi-P (FF14): There’s No Need Of The PlayStation 6 and Xbox Next From a Gamer’s Perspective

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Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?

Asked about the next generation of consoles and the possibility of Final Fantasy XIV launching on them in a fresh interview posted on Feed4Gamer, Yoshi-P confirmed there's always the possibility of the game launching on new platforms, as his aim is to make the game accessible to as many players as possible. With recent platforms coming with very high specs, the team's work is considerably easier than in the past, so any new hardware release is definitely a positive in this regard. From a gamer's perspective, however, there's no need of the PlayStation 6 and the Xbox next-generation system, Yoshi-P added. Right now, the Final Fantasy XIV director feels that people are happy with the current-generation systems, highlighting how the price of new hardware likely plays a factor in this sentiment.
Besides talking about the PlayStation 6 and the next-generation Xbox, Naoki Yoshida also touched upon PlayStation 4 support for Final Fantasy XIV, which will continue for as long as possible, although there will inevitably come a time when support for the previous generation system will be dropped, mostly due to the console's OS and hardware regulations that limit data, which are already making plenty of games such as Genshin Impact drop support for previous generation hardware. So far, Sony Interactive Entertainment has increased these limits for Final Fantasy XIV as per the team's requests, but they have already informed the developers that they are reaching their limits from their side, so the end of support for the PlayStation 4 version of the popular MMORPG may be on the horizon.
 
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If folks love sub 1080p render resolution (before upscaling) "performance" and 30 FPS "quality" modes, sure, we don't need more advanced hardware.

For the rest of us, it would be nice to have the option… although now days PC hits that spot anyways and even Sony titles wind up there… so I guess we had PS6 and Xbox Two all along!
 
If folks love sub 1080p render resolution (before upscaling) "performance" and 30 FPS "quality" modes, sure, we don't need more advanced hardware.

For the rest of us, it would be nice to have the option… although now days PC hits that spot anyways and even Sony titles wind up there… so I guess we had PS6 and Xbox Two all along!
Vast majority of money in gaming is done by "forever" games like Fortnite. Gamers that play these games for year just want more of the same.
 
For me, the graphics performance of current consoles and graphics cards is sufficient. I don't know if I'm just stuck for what's to come, or if I'm a bit more frugal and content with current graphics.
My current games range from Death Stranding to Dave the Diver and Abiotic Factor, and I find all of these games to be excellent in terms of graphics.
We could happily take a 10-year break from developing new, more powerful hardware. Instead, there could be more optimization of software, cooling, and power consumption (and perhaps hardware size).
Oh yeah, and more time and development invested in story and new game concepts. ;)
 
Can't agree - I still want better IQ, even for 30fps mode I play

Vast majority of money in gaming is done by "forever" games like Fortnite. Gamers that play these games for year just want more of the same.
But better
These games always upping their content quality/IQ, dropping past gen on the way (FF14 already dropped PS3 and as article implied PS4 might be on the way out)
Because if they don't - competitors will make "the same but much more beautiful" and it will eat away playerbase
For YoshiP though it's inconvenient as he wants as much playerbase as possible and cutting out old playerbase is undesirable for him.
 
He is wrong. Players are constantly complaining about low framerates and low resolutions

I have a PC so I dont care but I think new generation consoles are needed ASAP so people stop complaining
 
He is wrong. Players are constantly complaining about low framerates and low resolutions

I have a PC so I dont care but I think new generation consoles are needed ASAP so people stop complaining

You spend far too much time online.

Virtually no-one IRL gives a shit about resolution and framerates aside from hardcore PC gamers; who are a minority.

Gamers do care about next gen consoles. But what they care about is overall visual quality (e.g. lighting accuracy, shadow quality, VFX, animations etc) and production values, alongside new gameplay concepts/systems/mechanics.
 
If someone doesn't feel the need for a PS6 or nextgen XBOX, then they shouldn't buy it and stop bitching about it.

Personally, I think that autumn of 2027 is the perfect time for next gens consoles to launch and I plan to pick one up.
 
You spend far too much time online.

Virtually no-one IRL gives a shit about resolution and framerates aside from hardcore PC gamers; who are a minority.

Gamers do care about next gen consoles. But what they care about is overall visual quality (e.g. lighting accuracy, shadow quality, VFX, animations etc) and production values, alongside new gameplay concepts/systems/mechanics.

You just admitted "gamers" care about 'overall visual quality' and new mechanics. Both depend on better hardware. You can't push ray tracing, advanced physics, or cinematic detail on decade-old tech. That's the whole point of a new generation

You don't get those without higher specs and that's why new consoles are needed soon

And about spending too much time online, says the guy debating console specs online too lol
 
UE5 will keep us all upgrading. Decima is good enough to actually take a 10 year break, but it's not the world we live in.

The next gen has to cover the performance we lost at 1440p/60, without the garbled reflections and lighting we get now.
 
after whatever next gen. I'm with moving to a 10 year cycle. Don't need/want to have a new system every 3-4 years fuck that. (base then a pro)
 
It won't because nobody will give up their 10 year old Fortnite account for "same, but prettier".
Like nobody will give up their 15-20-30 year old EQ, FF11, WoW, FF14 etc. account
There is always player outflow and very often even seasoned players go for trial into new game and some of them find it more appealing than the old. Even though there are thousands of trophies in old game - people just get bored with the same old boring stuff in old game.

after whatever next gen. I'm with moving to a 10 year cycle. Don't need/want to have a new system every 3-4 years fuck that. (base then a pro)
You don't have to buy Pro, it's completely optional as there are no Pro exclusive games
Some people, me included, would like have advancement in IQ more often than 7-8 years (and don't want PC hussle) and Pro resolve it and doesn't impede vanilla PS5 owners
 
As we saw from recent mgs delta, especially comparing pc footage, even quick dirty port can be bruteforced if ur hardware is strong enough, definitely stronger consoles are needed and from the leaks we gonna get them latest holidays 2028, likely even earlier.

Another recent game, not even full fat AAA coz 50$ at launch, mafia was far from keeping stable 60 on ps5/pr0/xsx and it still had relatively low res despite not very impressive looks(lets not lie to ourselfs, we saw not 1 but 2 gta6 trailers already, the matrix demo, and witcher4 ue5 " gameplay demo", hard to be impressed anymore, our standards are up and its 2nd half of 2025 already).

Even strongest current gen console, aka midgen upgrade ps5pr0 is actually pretty weak, mild overclock on zen2 cpu from 3,5 to 3,85 GHz (and lets remember we got zen5 3d chips from november 2024 already, likely zen6 gonna launch next year) and gpu wise even 16gigs rx 9060xt is on pair(definitely not weaker), and thats 380$ streetprice now, so relatively cheap/lowend for a gpu.


Again, look how weak that ps5pr0 equivalent(including rt and ai upscaling capabilities) is on the graph when it comes to modern gpu's. Current BiS rtx 5090 is over 3x stronger already(yes its pricy af but still if some1 is enthusiast on the bleeding edge they can buy it, they just bleed money to do so ;)

 
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I agree with him.
The PS5 didn't produce much that would convince me I need stronger hardware, beyond when encountering the occasional poorly optimised game.

Beyond that we are facing a crisis where the increasing production costs finally couch up with what can be done on the Artistic side (chasing the safe options), the consumer friendlyness, any meaningful upgrade that the average gamer would notice and a size of studio that is realistically manageable.

So yeah...
I think we should delay the newer generation a bit. Especially since the current one hasn't managed to live up to it's potential yet.
 
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Well, this gen brought is way faster loading times. Every gen has something new I did not know I needed. So yeah. I'll want a new generation of consoles someday.
For now I'm pretty content and would prefer games to actually launch and not be canceled or postponed.
 
For me, the graphics performance of current consoles and graphics cards is sufficient. I don't know if I'm just stuck for what's to come, or if I'm a bit more frugal and content with current graphics.
My current games range from Death Stranding to Dave the Diver and Abiotic Factor, and I find all of these games to be excellent in terms of graphics.
We could happily take a 10-year break from developing new, more powerful hardware. Instead, there could be more optimization of software, cooling, and power consumption (and perhaps hardware size).
Oh yeah, and more time and development invested in story and new game concepts. ;)

Yep, the games i spent the most time playing this generation weren't even visually groundbreaking (except one maybe).

I wouldn't mind if game developers continued to use current technologies while focusing on other aspects.
 
He's not completely wrong in that the value proposition of both PS5 and XSX is the weakest it has ever been for a generation of consoles. However, that doesn't mean they shouldn't exist. Clearly, people still want new consoles or otherwise PS5 wouldn't be selling so well. I just wish that all this "power" would be used for something more interesting than graphics. Give me cool AI shit. Give me cool and crazy gameplay and world systems that react in neat ways to the players. Hell, even stuff like server meshing in MMOs so that everyone can playtogether without having to select a server should be fucking standard by now. Instead, most companies keep shitting out games with systems that haven't evolved since the PS3 era, just with really good graphics. In some ways games have even regressed, imho.
 
He's not entirely wrong, but. Developers cannot keep up with their desire to please fans with endlessly chasing improved graphics. Systems, developments, tools can't keep up with a reasonable cycle. Costs are way too high for return on investment.

Eventually when this all burns down, we will be back to the 80's and 90's development ;) or AI and machine learning will make development reasonable, Yuck.
 
FF16 being shit and rejected broke this man. He was so cool and on point before FF16 was ever a thing; now he's just that old man Michael Scott is trying to shut the door on in The Office.

I'd appreciate if someone would post it.
 
How about devs put in effort to optimize their games?

Then i'll agree somewhat that we won't need a next gen console atleast for a while.
 
Isn't this the same thread?

 
I mean it's not like PS6 is releasing right now. It's a 2027 or 2028 console. The real question is, why are we talking about this in 2025 as much as we are? There's still 2 and half or and half years before it releases...
 
You just admitted "gamers" care about 'overall visual quality' and new mechanics. Both depend on better hardware. You can't push ray tracing, advanced physics, or cinematic detail on decade-old tech. That's the whole point of a new generation

You don't get those without higher specs and that's why new consoles are needed soon

And about spending too much time online, says the guy debating console specs online too lol

I don't think you understood my post.

I'm arguing against your point about resolution and framerates specifically. Overall visual quality has less to do with those and more to do with the sum of many things all working together. THAT's my point. Mainstream gamers don't refuse to buy and play games because of sub-1080p res or sub-120fps framerates. Most of them don't even know WTF any of that means. They just see flashy graphics that look lifelike and they either like it or they don't.

Your post was about resolution and framerates. My argument was that none of those matter to the vast vast majority of gamers. Don't try and change your argument after the fact.
 
 
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