CaptainTiptop
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Wait, there's another Invizimals game coming already?
Also there's a lightgun shooter coming to PS4!? In 2014!? I'm so there.
Also there's a lightgun shooter coming to PS4!? In 2014!? I'm so there.
PlayStation Network Thread (Vita/PS3/PS4) | May 2014
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I'm betting for the latter. But I'd love if they announce it earlier, like... you know...
It's embarrasing to say this...
It's not as if I have any hopes...
E3
You can skip levels when you've already acquired the Gold Trophy iirc.
As you, I'm super hyped for Persona 5. 7th gen doesn't ends until Atlus says so
You think Capcom would put effort in MH when they can still milk PS2 era assets?
How is 3D in Monster Hunter games? I guess that would need some work.
Most people would be OK if MH Vita used those PS2 models with extra anti aliasing and not much more. Monster Hunter Portable 3rd HD is one of the best selling PS3 games in Japan after all.
I think I've missed when Capcom announced MH4 was going to hit the WiiU.
No PS Move support?
CaptainTiptop
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Hmm, doesn't look like it. I'll ask/complain in the comments.
jeffrockz312
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They didn't but chances are greater it will appear there instead of the Vita. Still doesn't discount the fact the MHP3rd was released on an HD console.
And Amazon Fire TV has a better chance than both since it runs on Android. Does that change anything?
I think I pointed at MGP3rdHD in my post. It could happen again, but if they release on a homeconsole they'd probably be targeting the West. And the WiiU is not the best bet if you want to target that audience.
DrROBschiz
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You think Capcom would put effort in MH when they can still milk PS2 era assets?
I would happily settle for Portable 3rd at this point
Or hell even a port of the Upgraded UNITE they put out on IOS
WTF Capcom
corrosivefrost
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Its hurts so much
To not have a true monster hunter for Vita.....
Why NO Portable 4th!!
Because of Nintendo?
I'm beginning to think MH fans who want the game on platforms other than Nintendo are the console equivalent of the PC gamers who call Dark Souls a terrible port. :lol
I will never forget the pre-TGS 2011 rumors that all came true, bar MHP3rd HD on Vita. I have to wonder what happened there.
DrROBschiz
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IOS just got an Upgraded version of Unite bro
Only thing Sony gets now is Frontier...
corrosivefrost
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Market analysts probably figure there's not enough market to justify porting that iOS game to Vita -- especially outside of Japan. I'm just guessing... but I have this feeling like, compared to other genres, hunting games don't have enough pull to get marketing and ports for the west (hell, look at Namco and GE2, right?)... add that to a low install base and only a subset of that install base likes hunting games and only a subset of that subset are really wanting MH for the platform and probably a subset of that subset have a 3DS and just bought whatever MH was just released over there.
You're fighting a losing battle.
Like me wanting Project Beast to come to PC or Capcom to put DMC team back on DMC for DMC5. :lol
DrROBschiz
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Seems counter intuitive given the
- Precedent and popularity of the games on PSP/PS3
- The rise in popularity of Vita in Japan year over year
- The massive swath of Hunting games selling 100K+ in MH's absence
Seems like easy money being left on the table. Money they would have gladly jumped on before with their conservative agenda.
5 Things To Know About Blue Estate on PS4
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2014/05/30/5-things-to-know-about-blue-estate-on-ps4/
First on rails shooter for the PS4 correct?
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2014/05/30/5-things-to-know-about-blue-estate-on-ps4/
First on rails shooter for the PS4 correct?
- The Monster Hunter fanbase is on the 3DS. That's the present and that's important. A new PS3 (or PS4) port could happen though.
- Vita has 3 million consoles sold. At this rate, it'll be at 4 millions by the end of the year. Monster Hunter is used to sell >3 million units. There isn't a userbase that can sustain such a juggernaut.
- Read above.
They'd rather make Monster Hunter Smart with the money they'd have used to port the game on the Vita. Business wise, it makes more sense.
jeffrockz312
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Wii U is the only bet because Nintendo moneyhats happened.
It's either that or stick with 3DS only releases.
I do have a hunch that if Frontier G does well on the Vita, Capcom may turn their head to the Vita and hopefully that means a proper sequel on a Sony device.
I thought it was closer to 7 million? There were even bets on it reaching 10 million on the next fiscal year.
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Have you guys seen this blogpost? Really hoping that they would announce a Vita release since the beautiful colors would look amazing on the Vita. Besides these kinds of indie games would perform really well on the Vita.
Aaru's Awakening
Monster Hunter Frontier G is not going to do well on the Vita, just as it didn't do well on PS3 or WiiU. It's an old MMO-like game with a subscription fee and iirc it's filled with intrusive microtransactions.
In Japan it's at 3 millions, and that's MH main market. Monster Hunter is a niche franchise in the West.
Edit: About Aaru's Awakening, it looks cool. I'd like to see it on Vita too
DrROBschiz
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So they turn their backs on the potential 3 million customers that are buying plenty of copies of current hunting games?
How quickly we forgot that the Portable 3rd HD and 3G existed so close together.
There is something else going on here or maybe they don't seek to expand the franchise outside of single platform development.
Capcom has pretty much stopped supporting the Vita and barely did so in the first place. It got what...two fighting games and then the Capcom-published Dustforce? The upcoming Monster Hunter Frontier G port is surprising.
Hell, look at their 3DS offerings now. Isn't it pretty much just Monster Hunter and Ace Attorney at this point?
Hell, look at their 3DS offerings now. Isn't it pretty much just Monster Hunter and Ace Attorney at this point?
Talking about Monster Hunter on Vita and expecting the latter's sales to remain static is weird. Monster Hunter would increase Vita sales pre and post launch. It would create a userbase for itself.
Frontier is going to flop on Vita, and if it didn't, Capcom wouldn't release a proper MH anyways. A proper MH would just step on Frontier's toes, and I'm sure Capcom would rather have a monthly online fee + microtransactions over years instead of just a one time cash injection.
That's because everything non-MH/AA/SF (which wouldn't have repeat success) they put on 3DS flopped.
Frontier is going to flop on Vita, and if it didn't, Capcom wouldn't release a proper MH anyways. A proper MH would just step on Frontier's toes, and I'm sure Capcom would rather have a monthly online fee + microtransactions over years instead of just a one time cash injection.
That's because everything non-MH/AA/SF (which wouldn't have repeat success) they put on 3DS flopped.
jeffrockz312
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Did revelations flop too?
DrROBschiz
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Well the have a FULL and Upgrade port of Unite on IOS, MHO on effing CryENGINE in China.
Frontier is the only games thats on damn near everything
Their strategy for growth with this series is very disjointed. Its weird that the main series was happy and successful on both Sony and Nintendo Platforms with Unite, Portable 3rd, MH3 and 3G all occupying similar timeframes
Then they went back to single console lockdown with MH4, shifted strategies all over the place. Makes my head spin thinking about it. Almost seems like steps backwards, sideways and upside compared to how other franchises have grown within Capcom.
There aren't 3 million potential customers on the Vita. Any game has ever gotten 100% attach rate (don't count WiiSports or Super Mario Bros...). The best selling hunting action game has sold 400k units.
If your mid/long term strategy includes expanding the audience of your mainstream franchise, you choose a mainstream platform, not a niche one.
They've been building MH audience in 3DS for years. I don't get why they'd start building it again on another platform right now.
Okay, maybe that didn't flop, but I wouldn't be surprised if Capcom feels that dev team are better served making RE7.
DrROBschiz
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Ok so you drop support for PS3/Ps4
Makes sense to move to mobile with the IOS port.... so far so good
But Vita is on the rise. Why not at least dip your toes in the water and see how it does? I guess thats where Frontier comes in.... which is a shame
peanutbutterlatte
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Borderlands 2 plays a treat on Vita. Add me to the pile saying "Ignore the Metacritic consensus". If you're not expecting 1080p/60fps, it's grand.
Frontier is bad and I don't get why they'd put money on that shit seeing how it has sold on PS3 and WiiU.
And I won't drop support for PS3 and PS4. Both platforms are popular in the West, so they could try and appeal to the core gaming audience (the kind of people that buys games like Demon's Souls and other skill based games) releasing it on those consoles. That's an audience they could and should target.
If I were Capcom, I'd release a port on PS3 or PS4 before the Vita just for that reason. They don't need to release it on another handheld because they already have Japan locked. The West is another story.
No 1080p/60fps on my Vita, no buy.
Weltall Zero
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What, really? It's a quite awesome game; its biggest flaw might be being too mechanically similar to Trine 1, but if you haven't played it, that shouldn't be an issue. It's a beautiful game, too.
Baron Von Beans
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I never played MH Frontier. I could care less what everyone says about it, I am buying it day 1. Yea, there is all this stuff that is known about the past versions of it. I personally do not think that Capcom is going to release the exact same game, with exact same policies behind it. By this I mean monthly fees, and others. Yes it is an mmo, but no real data has been released as far as the Vita version, correct? Despite everything they have done over the years, I am giving them the benefit of the doubt.
Crossing my Mega Busters and Greatswords that I am correct :|
cardinalmind
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Easy Tiger. Don't do this to yourself.
Frontier on Vita is exactly how it is on other platforms. They updated the official site today, as the game launches in August.
Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXp_23czCBU
Site: http://psvita.mhf-g.jp/#/top
Box Art:
It looks like Vita users will share servers with those on PC and PS3.
Unless you live in Japan, I really don't know why you'd import it. The other versions used IP checks and blocked anyone outside of Japan.
#1: Ugh, MH talk. Let it go guys
#2: 3DS was at 1.7M when MH3G and 4 were announced for the system.
I hope you have a Japanese IP
jeffrockz312
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Can't you use a proxy server based on Japan to play MHFG?
ATXAlchemy
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I am really really really curious about the Invizimal games (esp. the Vita version, I don't have PSP's camera thing).
From what I'm hearing AR is quite a big part of the game.
How good is the AR stuff in it?
jeffrockz312
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From what I've heard, it's actually isn't that fun compared to the rest of the game. Invizimal is a solid game though.
Baron Von Beans
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Well...snapdragons. Or would it be snaprathaloses? Rahtalosii? In any case, color me corrected in every way. Thanks for the additional info, though. Depending on when it might see the light of day in America, I may still pick it up. Anytime after MH4U release, no thanks. TIme will tell. But I also do like mediocre versions of good games...I mean, I bought Guilty Gear Isuka after all~!
Back to proper business, Vita bidniss, has anyone played the newer Armored Core games for PSP? Mainly AC3 and the newer ones? I have the UMD of the first AC game, and I have been eyeing those for a while. I doubt I'll buy them soon, due to my ever increasing log, but I have been curious for a bit now.
Back to proper business, Vita bidniss, has anyone played the newer Armored Core games for PSP? Mainly AC3 and the newer ones? I have the UMD of the first AC game, and I have been eyeing those for a while. I doubt I'll buy them soon, due to my ever increasing log, but I have been curious for a bit now.
ATXAlchemy
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No, I mean, more on the technical/gameplay side (not content-wise) when compared to non-AR.
KimonoNoNo
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Quite.
At least Mohu has got a future. Virtua Fighter is my fighting game of choice, but I came to a depressing realisations that current Sega will never release another non-arcade version.
vagabondarts
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I'm really hyped for Galak-Z. I fear the Vita version will be much later than PS4 based on the way some of the interviews I've watched went.
It's coming to Steam too, if that's your thing.
It's coming to Steam too, if that's your thing.
corrosivefrost
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I'm not sure how the circle pads work for games that would have you using analog sticks for movement, but for games where you'd want a d-pad, they're abysmal.
Baron Von Beans
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Don't say such things..! Believe!!
Glob, you speak the truth. I really don't have many 3DS games, but it can certainly be a chore to use that slider. Good thing I have all that practice from the PSP! Thanks Sony <3
Well, once you beat it you can play through the whole game again
.....I did that the second my game ended....and spend a week streght beating it AGAIN on new game +...best game on Vita !Seriously though, the game was such a great surprise to me and I just fell in love with the game. Glad you are enjoying it
. If you are still interested in the Persona series after this, maybe you can check out Persona 3 Portable. It is 20 bucks on PSN sadly, but it's worth every penny; gameplay and design is very similar to P4G, the characters are just as interesting as P4G and you can play as a Female Main Character (a bigger deal than you can imagine; makes some sections really funny ). If you beat Persona 4 Golden again and want to play something similar to that, then P3P is a good choice . Where are you exactly in P4G? If you are in December in the game, the game can end VERY soon if you make the bad choice;
if you let the team throw Namatame into the TV, you get the bad ending and even if you don't throw him in, you have to pick PERFECT responses to continue the game...very annoying .
.Did you play the Wii U port? 3DS assets (like weapons) are untouched and the game doesn't even run at 60FPS, it has an awful stutter unlike the 3DS version. And I doubt 4 will have a story worth caring about. Much more interested in the other hunting games myself.
Well, once you beat it you can play through the whole game again
Seriously though, the game was such a great surprise to me and I just fell in love with the game. Glad you are enjoying it
Where are you exactly in P4G? If you are in December in the game, the game can end VERY soon if you make the bad choice;if you let the team throw Namatame into the TV, you get the bad ending and even if you don't throw him in, you have to pick PERFECT responses to continue the game...very annoying
I actually did get a bad ending at that point. I came online and learned of how much game is missed if it ends there. I then proceeded to load my save and continue on the good path. Right now I'm about to enter the TV to chase
Adachi.
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