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PlayStation Network Thread (Vita/PS4/PS3) | January 2015
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Never say never though, I thought the chances that Fever would come back were lower than Fate/Unlimited Codes...Never thought about that ;p. But meh. It's still expensive with the discount code.
I guess my chance to play this game is goneLost my hope when the game was removed from the store. But I thought that Fate/Unlimited Codes might also be available or coming back to the EU store because DJ Max Fever is now available(and Fever was also one of those games that got removed from the store). I wonder if Sega would bring Phantasy Star Portable and Portable 2 back in the EU store :/.
And hm. Strange. When Hakuoki for the PS3 was on sale(in the summer?), I didn't saw the PSP version in the store :/(when I searched for Hakuoki). Or maybe this game was first unavailable in my region? o.o. Oh well. I hope the PSP version will be on sale soon(or this year ;p). Same with DJ Max Fever ;p.
Hakuoki should've been available everywhere except AU/NZ at release, maybe it disappeared temporarily. According to Prelude, FF7 disappears when it's on sale from the French store for example. (why, scee)
And I wouldn't count on a Fever discount, considering the publisher haven't existed for years. If you still have the 10% code I'd say go for it
before it gets pulled again.
autoduelist
Member
I'm pretty good at holding onto my store credit, but yeah, it never lasts as long as you want it to. I just burnt through a good chunk of what i have this weekend.
iirc, you can either skip or fastforward (can't remember which) any dialog you've seen before. However, it will 'stop' at any differences (an added line, or if someone huffs instead of grunts). In this way, you can -generally- speed through a lot of the ng variants.
Going through doors, etc, however, will always take 10x too long.
I think you can fast-forward those if you've seen them go the exact same route before. But yeah, that doesn't happen very often.
I don't think the Hakuoki Muso works on Vita in North America. It's one of the very few post-Vita PSP titles to not work with it.
There's a case to be made for a lot of western third parties, whose handheld support usually consisted of hastily made games outsourced to studios with questionable track records. I don't think that would apply to companies like Square Enix, though. I wouldn't be surprised if Crisis Core, Birth By Sleep or Type-0 cost more to develop than the entirety of NIS' PSP output, for example.
You can tell a low budget handheld game (Lord of Arcana) from a high budget one (Final Fantasy Type-0) rather easily. There's a scale. Just because a handheld spinoff would be cheaper to develop than the same game on a home console doesn't mean the game itself cost little to make. In the case of things like Final Fantasy, you've got home console dev cycles lasting 5+ years. That's likely at an astronomical cost, but that doesn't mean Type-0's 3-year cycle was cheap.
The death of AAA handheld games could be seen as an extension of the death of B-tier retail titles in the console space. In raw dollar amounts, it's likely that most big handheld games are closer in production cost to a B-tier console title than a AAA one. Publishers are vacating the B-tier space to focus on the extremes: super high budget console games that sells millions of units and/or super low cost mobile games that bring in a huge ROI.
Squashed sprites and character models are a sin to my eyes.
Cropping fucks up framing.
If it was meant to be seen in 4:3, it was meant to be seen in 4:3.
Which reminds me, Grim Fandango HD is supposed to default to 4:3, right? Gonna need some popcorn for those reactions.
There's a case to be made for a lot of western third parties, whose handheld support usually consisted of hastily made games outsourced to studios with questionable track records. I don't think that would apply to companies like Square Enix, though. I wouldn't be surprised if Crisis Core, Birth By Sleep or Type-0 cost more to develop than the entirety of NIS' PSP output, for example.
You can tell a low budget handheld game (Lord of Arcana) from a high budget one (Final Fantasy Type-0) rather easily. There's a scale. Just because a handheld spinoff would be cheaper to develop than the same game on a home console doesn't mean the game itself cost little to make. In the case of things like Final Fantasy, you've got home console dev cycles lasting 5+ years. That's likely at an astronomical cost, but that doesn't mean Type-0's 3-year cycle was cheap.
The death of AAA handheld games could be seen as an extension of the death of B-tier retail titles in the console space. In raw dollar amounts, it's likely that most big handheld games are closer in production cost to a B-tier console title than a AAA one. Publishers are vacating the B-tier space to focus on the extremes: super high budget console games that sells millions of units and/or super low cost mobile games that bring in a huge ROI.
Squashed sprites and character models are a sin to my eyes.
Cropping fucks up framing.
If it was meant to be seen in 4:3, it was meant to be seen in 4:3.
Which reminds me, Grim Fandango HD is supposed to default to 4:3, right? Gonna need some popcorn for those reactions.
NormalFish
Banned
I'll actually concede that there have been some games that could possibly qualify as being AAA -- mostly from SquEnix as far as my memory serves.
Your last paragraph is really the bottom line in the discussion, though. The biggest handheld games are most easily compared to PS2-era B-tier productions. Some are more expensive than others, some are more visually stunning, but they're all cheaper than the AAA productions on consoles or PC.
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Actually, I want to know the budget for the GenVI pokemon games. Those models are super well done. Could be the game had a respectable budget. Still not AAA, but it's probably up there. Killzone Mercs is another decent example, though I don't know how many assets are reused from other games in the franchise.
The 10% discount doesn't apply to subscriptions I believe.
ebay was selling 1 year cards for $40 earlier today
Ingueferroque
Banned
What was updated in the Vita version of Minecraft? (Those changelogs never pop up for me...)
NormalFish
Banned
the most recent patch was a pretty massive set of changes. new blocks, new mobs, updates to world generation, pretty full patch.
Ingueferroque
Banned
I got that one, but two days ago another smaller patch appeared.
Seems like a bug fix update, changelist posted here: http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2015/01/23/minecraft-update-rolling-ps4-ps3-ps-vita-today/
Question for VitaGAF...
I'm headed out of the country, in a few days, for 15 days worth of work. I'm unaware of what my personal Internet situation will be, but I'm trying to prepare for the worst...which would be no personal Internet, and yeah, that would absolutely suck ass.
Anyway, with that said, I need a few recommendations for RPGs/action games that will keep me busy (not Ys/P4G/FF as I've played them).
Thanks!
Edit: PSN or easy to find physical.
I'm headed out of the country, in a few days, for 15 days worth of work. I'm unaware of what my personal Internet situation will be, but I'm trying to prepare for the worst...which would be no personal Internet, and yeah, that would absolutely suck ass.
Anyway, with that said, I need a few recommendations for RPGs/action games that will keep me busy (not Ys/P4G/FF as I've played them).
Thanks!
Edit: PSN or easy to find physical.
You could try Demon Gaze, Sorcery Saga and Hyperdimension Neptunia Rebirth.
Ingueferroque
Banned
Easy, Soul Sacrifice Delta.
Atelier games
Demon Gaze
Disgaea games
Brandish (PSP)
Soul Sacrifice
Trails In The Sky FC (PSP)
?
Baekshi, is that you?
Ingueferroque
Banned
I would also recommend SSD, and Freedom Wars. Even considering that he probably doesn't have online access. There is a TON of content for single player.
But seriously, get Brandish. Everyone. Get Brandish.
Currently transferring over my saves etc. to Mac, in preparation of moving to a 2 64GB stick system. Excited!
But seriously, get Brandish. Everyone. Get Brandish.
Currently transferring over my saves etc. to Mac, in preparation of moving to a 2 64GB stick system. Excited!
I made the OT, you know.
When was that game delisted anyway?
I recently reinstalled it on my Vita, and I couldn't find it on the Store, had to comb over my 1800+ download list to find it...
I'm trying to use PSDLE and it's not working, it just gives me nothing (0/0 items).
I'm following the "Getting Started" guide on the PSDLE homepage. Using Chrome.
Anybody had a similar problem?
EDIT: Nevermind I just logged out and back in and it's working now.
Man this is so cool.
Apparently I have 388 PS+ items! Wow.
I'm following the "Getting Started" guide on the PSDLE homepage. Using Chrome.
Anybody had a similar problem?
EDIT: Nevermind I just logged out and back in and it's working now.
Man this is so cool.
Apparently I have 388 PS+ items! Wow.
kind of surprised killzone hd hasn't been ported to vita yet
don't know if it could run kz2 or 3
probably not
kind of surprised killzone mercenaries hasn't been ported to ps4 yet
For the same reason ICO and SOTC haven't been ported to Vita: because they aren't SCEA games.
(there would still be Ratchet Gladiator, but they've probably realized that the PS3 port was already shitty to begin with)
I know, I'm just teasing you.
It was before the Vita was released, that's for sure. I guess it was 2011.
Capcom offered the game for 50% off before delisting, that's when I got it.
This.
And this. :'(
Didn't know that was the reason. Honestly having those two games on the vita would be amazing
Seeing since there's a first party production thread now i think autoduelist's idea would probably be best matched to a third-party production suggestions in addition to drawing addition to the lack of compatibility of various games amongst the playstation systems.
Like crash bandicoot not being playable on vita :/
Adding to what everyone has been mentioning, there is Disgaea 4, too. That can help you kill time and quite perfect to play on handheld.
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
not going to happen. if they wanted to the company would have done it by now. but feel free to go chase rainbows regardless if that pleases you.
SargerusBR
I love Pokken!
Can we expect February freebies to be announced in the next couple of days?
I think it's supposed to be the first Monday of the month, which would be only next Monday, not tomorrow or this week.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Is there no preload for grim fandango vita?
Pandora012
Member
I doubt it.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Well that blows.
I think the main issue is that most of these games will sell a couple of thousand copies, and earn maybe tens of thousands of dollars for the publisher. I simply can't see them bothering.
Ingueferroque
Banned
It is still untapped revenue. Sony should be doing more to encourage pubs like Konami to release their digital library on PSN.
Vandal Hearts.. Metal Gear Acid.. !
autoduelist
Member
Without knowing how much it costs to get it listed, it's hard to know...
Obviously, I doubt some of the games I want (say, D&D Tactics, though that's likely a licensing issue) would ever generate much revenue... but I'm sure some would, as you say, generate 10s of thousands.
If it's just filling out a form and sending it to Sony, it's possible it could happen. If it requires paying exorbitant Vita QA fees, then yeah, not going to happen.
There are plenty of games up on PSN that clearly don't sell well, and were never going to sell well. Some of the PS1 classics, some of the PSP games, heck, some new releases and 'import' games. There's a profitability line somewhere, sure, but in other cases getting a couple hundred emails that people actually have interest in, say, Valkyria Profiles Lenneth... it's possible.
Not likely. Perhaps extremely unlikely. But at the same time, it's just emails.
Basically what I'm curious about is this -- are there any psp games out there that aren't up simply because the publisher isn't paying attention? If yes, then knocking on their door would help. Obviously nearly all are more likely licensing issues... it's whether it's worth the effort of knocking on doors to get the 1 or 2 games we might scare up onto psn.
SSB 3DS is about the only example I can think of.
NormalFish
Banned
I think we can agree if it didn't have the Wii U version behind it its budget would also have been much smaller.
Still, that's actually a pretty good example. Kind of a unique situation, though.
AAA is a meaningless term anyway. It groups together games like uncharted, which takes 2 years and $20 million to make, and GTAV, which takes 4 years and $100 mil. Game a like mario, or mario kart probably take much fewer resources to make than something like uncharted and the last of us. Some people even think Zelda A link between worlds AAA, when the scope of the game doesn't even allow it to touch the production values of what we consider AAA on consoles.
teflontactics
Member
I agree with the bolded.
Fuck AAA, fuck indie, fuck third party, fuck first party.
Games come in two classifications, based on each person's own opinions; fun games, and not fun games.
NormalFish
Banned
That's why it's the closest thing I can think of, I'm a portable junkie and its absolutely not common.
The closest AAA Western games besides that are stuff like Liberty City Stories on the PSP, then the Assassin's Creed and Killzone games on Vita. Close, but still obviously games made for a lesser budget.
Great. The free DLC for Shinovi Versus adds 50 individual DLCs to the download list.
Unfortunately the webstore is buggy and doesn't show any of my recent buys on its download list so I have to do this on the Vita which always jumps back to the end of the list, making it hard to keep track which DLC you have already added.
Sony should really add a 'download all' button that downloads a game with all DLC you have bought.
Unfortunately the webstore is buggy and doesn't show any of my recent buys on its download list so I have to do this on the Vita which always jumps back to the end of the list, making it hard to keep track which DLC you have already added.
Sony should really add a 'download all' button that downloads a game with all DLC you have bought.