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PlayStation Network Thread (Vita/PS4/PS3) | March 2015
- Thread starter ZeroAKA
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If you want to play Arena Ultimax for the story, I'm not really sure I can recommend that. I mean it's downright shit. There is no real additional character development apart from seeing some slightly older versions of the characters and hearing some tiniy details of what they did in the meantime. The story itself is pretty underwhelming, the antagonist is meh and...naw, I really think it's not worth the effort.
It's a pretty awesome fighting game though, so if you're interested in those, get it.
autoduelist
Member
Retail is far more intensive than most people realize, I think. I used to work for a company that sold books... retailers would often take around 55% of MSRP as their cut. They'd also be able to 'return' unsold goods at our expense or simply write them off entirely -- yes, that means we'd get massive amounts of books returned and have to pay postage on them, then figure out something to do with all that unsold inventory. Or, we could tell them to keep them, which is essentially what happens when you see 'remainder sales' at bookstores where there is no cover... none of the profits of those sales go back to the publisher, but those low prices undercut any real purchases. Then there is the cost of printing, distribution, and everything else...
Then there are digital sales... where we would get a huge cut, and have -zero- issues. It was low risk (printing up lots of copies of books is expensive, and I can only imagine the manufacturing required for games is even more expensive) with high rewards and no chance of getting completely burnt if something didn't do well.
I know every industry is slightly different in the details, but ultimately the digital age is the best thing that has happened to publishers... sure, there are growing pains, and kinks to work out... but it's so much easier to release a digital only product than a retail release, with less risk and higher profit, that it's here to stay.
I realize some of you want/demand physical releases. I can understand that. But don't take it personal when a game goes digital only -- I'm guessing in most cases (ie, 99%) it's that or nothing. If I was a publisher I wouldn't touch physical releases for anything but known quantities like Uncharted or massively hyped games like Destiny. Oreshika? Digital all the way, any day. Going retail is more likely to result in heavy losses than profit.
SerTapTap
Member
I know retail has traditionally been a huge pain in the ass, but certain PS4 indies have a suspiciously easy time making retail print runs, not sure of the trick to it; Stick It To The Man and Retro City Rampage already did it, apparently Tower of guns will do it as well. RCR's dev is fucking crazy (in a good way) but ToG's dev doing it makes me think something might have changed, that or he's got a pub doing work for him?
If you don't actually distribute to brick and mortar stores it seems like a lot of the fuckery would be lessened, no? That's why I suggested one, online, retailer, like NISA did for Firefly. The internet is no longer optional so I think it's kind of silly for a lot of stuff to focus so hard on retail anyway. I've been in game stores two times in the last 4 years, and not because I don't buy lots of games.
And I'm not saying digital only is terrible or anything, but there are a lot of fussy people who do think that, and I will prefer physical where I can get it. If physical releases can be made sane by cutting out the actual brick and mortar retailers I'm all for it. I'm sure it's not quite that easy, but I suspect Sony's made things a bit easier somehow?
mellan_Konsten
Member
This.
SerTapTap
Member
Update is sounding too good to be true. 60 FPS Shareplay? Button mapping?? Megatons if true
That's pretty much my logic, just seeing if anyone would dissuade me. Man I need a display case for these...
That's pretty much my logic, just seeing if anyone would dissuade me. Man I need a display case for these...
Looks like remote play on 2.50 requires a Vita FW update, so most likely that means 60fps on Vita too.
autoduelist
Member
Well, ultimately it comes down to a math problem. How much added profit might the retail release bring, versus how much risk if it all goes south and doesn't sell to expectation?
Releasing retail, even to only 1 store, means you're adding on work. Product design, ISBNs, manufacturing, distribution to your single retailer. Your retailer has their own costs - inventory storage, customer service, dealing with returns, order management, web presence, credit card processing, etc. They hopefully have some of that already if they're established, but inventory storage is no joke, especially if something doesn't sell to expectations.
Adding all that work and cost to your project will let you reach one specific group of people -- those that strictly purchase retail only and will never, ever buy a digital product. Now, that's a very small number of people, because most will break down and buy something (like, say, Oreshika) digitally if they really want it and/or the price is right.
Everyone not in that group may mutter if they 'prefer' retail, but will ultimately buy your game digitally if the price is right.
You also need to put up money upfront to print copies. A print run of 10k or 20k does not come cheap [and micro print runs aren't cheap either due to economies of scale, and the more you pay per copy the less you see on the other end]. That's money that could be used to fund other projects, or simply pay the electricity bill. And that's money you never see back if a game doesn't sell to expectations.
Plus you have the fickle nature of reviewers and customer base that may reward one game, or banish another to hell because someone doesn't like its story, or its graphics, or thinks there is too little this or too much that, or that it is too hard or too easy, or whatever.
And that doesn't even get into the benefits of completely removing the used market for your product.
Dualshock 4 on remote play, please Sony.
Well I'm not expecting much. I just want to be up to speed for DAN. But psn gaf recommended P4A(U) a little while ago when I was asking about fighting games, so when I find a reasonably priced EU copy I might bite.
Aksys will likely be the last to drop retail Vita releases. If other companies are still doing it, I think we're in for a couple until 2017.
teflontactics
Member
I forgot to pack my Vita for my spring break trip. No Vita for me for the next week and a half.
My plane ride feels so wrong without being able to play Miku.
You poor bastard. I feel for you....
Last year, Koei Tecmo released 3 retail vita games in the span of like a month. That was legitly amazing to me.
But they probably wont be doing that again lol.
GloriousBagel
Banned
Where!?!
SerTapTap
Member
amazon.jp. The red beret undercleavage girl is there too (she also has cool weapons so I'll buy her too). You need to order a lot to get the most out of shipping though since you're shipping from Japan (at least I think I'm getting a discount...1 item is $11 to ship, six items is $27)
GloriousBagel
Banned
So I would have to make a JP account right? would I have to use a VPN or a JP address?
mellan_Konsten
Member
Is it in March that the japanese remote play grip (that surfaced last month) is supposed to become available?
SerTapTap
Member
It's super easy, no JP address needed even. No IP block. Just be sure to only get items that ship overseas (I could only find this option in the Hobby section). Then you add an international address to ship to. You can use a credit card and even pay in dollars. It's a separate account, but you can use the same email you use for US amazon if you want. The selection is limited but there's a modest variety of stuff that ships to us (possible elsewhere, it is "global" after all)
I'm so old *rusts away*
My 9 year old PSP is still going strong. I remember buying a 1gb memory card along with it, cost me $80 lol.
I forgot to pack my Vita for my spring break trip. No Vita for me for the next week and a half.
My plane ride feels so wrong without being able to play Miku.
but you packed your new3DS XL with Pokemon right?
GET OUT
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so based on @Wario64's tweets
PS4 2.5 Firmware BETA Details Leaked
- Suspend/Resume IN supposed working "perfectly" and "awesome"
- Button Mapping IN - you can now remap your "X" and "O"s
- Share Play 60FPS IN
- Delete Trophies with 0% IN
- Search Trophies Details on Internet IN
- Screenshots of Scenes w/Trophies IN
- Share Trophy Details and Screenshots IN
such a big update but only 2.5? lol thought it would be 3.0
3.0 would save PS4 in Japan and Vita in the West
#believe
I'm looking forward to this
I wish I knew :/
should be working across games. Otherwise it would be kinda pointless to enable remapping of all buttons.
That makes sense. Its about time then, this should have been a standard feature since last gen.
Delete account information from the memory card/system and then factory reset it.
Yes, but it's not Miku. ;_;
you betrayed us
smh
:/ 3DS getting Miku soon
guess Vita can go into storage and banished forever
names2hard4you
Member
Great news for us PS4 owners. That suspend feature and the button mapping are huge!
The funny thing is I brought my charger and my
2
The funny thing is I brought my charger and myretail carts. It's just my Vita that's missing.2
halfway redemption :/
a sign to just buy a Vita 2K along the way
there are only 2 endings, one bad and one good. You really cant go wrong.
Good, that makes things easier. Thanks for the info.
autoduelist
Member
what? you're leaving us? or buying a new one?
there's no way you're skipping Operation Abyss so i'm just going to assume this post means nothing.
Selling/Giving away my Danganronpa Vita-2000 for a Lime Green Vita-2000 and some cash.
Nope. There is one important choice (which is pretty obvious) you'll make that gives you a cut-short ending, nothing else.
calling dips on DR Vita 2K since you are giving it away
teflontactics
Member
Deactivate it (Settings > PSN > System Activation - go through all the options and deactivate so you aren't using any of your Vita "slots".)
Format the Vita (Restore to factory settings) and format the memory card.
Voila.
GloriousBagel
Banned
Wow thanks man ^__^ I thought it would be a lot more complicated than that.
She's a energetic type of girl, eat a lot and wield a rocket hammer. I can't see how it's not cool.
Oh thank god if true (suspend/resume coming soon on PS4). I was just about to make a post how after going back and playing more of P3/P4 on Vita, that I am not sure if I would be able to enjoy P5 on anything but Vita. And that mostly came down to suspend/resume being so absolutely perfect for taking a break at any moment in a game that has notoriously long sections between being able to save.
Though to be honest I realize I am not exactly sure what people mean when they say suspend/resume is in for PS4. Do they mean you can put the console in rest mode and then come back to your game? Or can you hot swap between games without losing progress? Either of those would work for me, but obviously the latter would be way cooler.
Though to be honest I realize I am not exactly sure what people mean when they say suspend/resume is in for PS4. Do they mean you can put the console in rest mode and then come back to your game? Or can you hot swap between games without losing progress? Either of those would work for me, but obviously the latter would be way cooler.
I will fight you.
Not really, go ahead.
TOTP: Buy Monster Monpiece and the banned game.