"blurriness" is a factor of many things, not just the resolution of the screen. GearVR uses bog standard +30 dpt lenses, for instance, and the screen doesn't have a custom density for the optics.
PlayStation VR Launch Thread: Welcome to The Real World
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"blurriness" is a factor of many things, not just the resolution of the screen. GearVR uses bog standard +30 dpt lenses, for instance, and the screen doesn't have a custom density for the optics.
If we are talking about the largest setting, you have to have head tracking as the screen is too big for your field of view.
Vive owner here
Overall love the headset, would say overall its on par with vive
Only thing is i have so many tracking issues, with move controllers, dualshock, and headset itself. Yes my room is super bright as i have panoramic view, so there is a lot of light coming through, so will have try it again, when sun goes down again.
Btw is there a troubleshooting thread on gaf?
Overall love the headset, would say overall its on par with vive
Only thing is i have so many tracking issues, with move controllers, dualshock, and headset itself. Yes my room is super bright as i have panoramic view, so there is a lot of light coming through, so will have try it again, when sun goes down again.
Btw is there a troubleshooting thread on gaf?
flatearthpandas
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Damn, these impressions are killing me. Might have to pick one up now
Thanks for the detailed explanation. So better lighting and overall gameplay experiences. I guess my expectations for psvr were a lot higher due to price point differences.
pixellated_man
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Thanks for that. Always interesting to hear impressions from people who have the more advanced VR solutions, especially Vive. If you say it is not bad and the games are fun I will take that as a big complement.
wumster3000
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I have mine here, but I'm feeling a little sick. I'm not going to try it into my head stops hurting. Hopefully, it stops hurting soon.
So weird.
I played and had no problems and had my wife play and she was fine too.
Looking into turns is so cool.
Step back and look at the total costs associated - factor in the phone hardware itself, and GearVR and PSVR are actually not that far apart in terms of price. By contrast, the Vive headset alone, without the hardware to run it, will cost as much as either a PSVR+PS4 or a GearVR + Phone put together.
Waylon Drums
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The Driveclub demo made me dry heave. Fun.
Sephiroth_VII
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Hmm, maybe some kind of magnetism affecting it then? I just find it odd since so many people have reported enjoying watching movies in cinematic mode, with no mention of drift.
Seconded. They've actually updated it quite a bit and are expanding it beyond what it was at launch, but I'd still probably sit out at full price. If I hadn't gotten it with my Rift I wouldn't have it in my library yet. Still worth keeping an eye on though as they've been good about updates.
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First VR experience ever here. Tried the deepsea adventure that came on VR Worlds. Holy shit.
The feeling of immersion is so awesome. Looking all the way around you, above and below, behind, jeebus.
The feeling of immersion is so awesome. Looking all the way around you, above and below, behind, jeebus.
Im about 5-6ft seated. Camera is on a glass cabinet where my TV stands (not above my TV) Blinds shut. Main lights off, Lamp behind me on. Its a pretty narrow space with a bed and table on either side. I even have a mirror right above and behind me. It doesn't seem to falter.
EDIT: as an addition, my controller light bar also has one of those stickers over the top with only a playstation logo displaying light...
Diprosalic
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after fooling around with it for a bit i still think that it's a weak device.
i will just play Thumper and REZ on it and then it will collect dust.
i will just play Thumper and REZ on it and then it will collect dust.
Haint
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Any Vive and Rift owners noticing the scale in PSVR is off and unconvincing by comparison? Lets say Vive and Rift look 100% to real life scale, PSVR looks more like 75%, slightly miniaturized. Measuring IPD in settings doesn't seem to change much, and I thought you were supposed to be able to exact IPD values in manually? Also it seems you can see the lenses warping the world like a wave near your periphery, especially noticeable looking at the ground in PSVR Worlds or the Heist. Chromatic aberrations are also much worse and the display quality/calibration (colors and white balance particularly) look pretty inaccurate and quite different from Vive/Rift.
NervousXtian
Thought Emoji Movie was good. Take that as you will.
Is the launch bundle going to be re-stocked at all? Are stuck ala carte it all?
I sold my move controllers back when I unloaded my PS3 years ago.
I sold my move controllers back when I unloaded my PS3 years ago.
I had pre-ordered at a store here in Portugal but I'd have had no trouble at all just walking in and buying both headset and camera today without a pre-order. A few units for sale on most stores at least around Lisbon I'll bet.
About the VR experience, my eyes were a bit tired after an hour or so and I stopped but man... it's amazing, and I only tried out Playroom VR. I played the platformer mini-game for a bit and felt okay. The first few times the camera moved I wasn't expecting it and felt that "movement without movement" sensation, but got used after a while. I think it also has a bit to do with the fact that when the robot character is nearby your viewpoint doesn't move and eventually it does but you're not sure where the threshold is and you're not fully counting on it. I can see myself having to adapt to fast movement in other games, but we'll see.
I also managed to focus the picture quite well after a while, though I had to calibrate the interocular distance in the PSVR settings, but it was never perfect. There's always a certain blurriness, but that's a given because of the screen's resolution. Still, there's a bit of clarity missing that may be due to the adjustment not being perfect. I also didn't quite manage to fully adjust the headset in a way that would fully cover my field of vision at first, I could see a little (very) bit of light if I looked down but it was no big deal. Later I got it almost perfect and given the immersion inherent to the experience it didn't matter at all. It can't be absolutely perfect for everyone I guess, and even if I don't manage to fit it perfectly, turning lights off in the room does the trick.
All in all, I'm in. I think VR is really here to stay and I can't wait for the better headsets that will show up in the future. RPO-style to begin, and beyond.
About the VR experience, my eyes were a bit tired after an hour or so and I stopped but man... it's amazing, and I only tried out Playroom VR. I played the platformer mini-game for a bit and felt okay. The first few times the camera moved I wasn't expecting it and felt that "movement without movement" sensation, but got used after a while. I think it also has a bit to do with the fact that when the robot character is nearby your viewpoint doesn't move and eventually it does but you're not sure where the threshold is and you're not fully counting on it. I can see myself having to adapt to fast movement in other games, but we'll see.
I also managed to focus the picture quite well after a while, though I had to calibrate the interocular distance in the PSVR settings, but it was never perfect. There's always a certain blurriness, but that's a given because of the screen's resolution. Still, there's a bit of clarity missing that may be due to the adjustment not being perfect. I also didn't quite manage to fully adjust the headset in a way that would fully cover my field of vision at first, I could see a little (very) bit of light if I looked down but it was no big deal. Later I got it almost perfect and given the immersion inherent to the experience it didn't matter at all. It can't be absolutely perfect for everyone I guess, and even if I don't manage to fit it perfectly, turning lights off in the room does the trick.
All in all, I'm in. I think VR is really here to stay and I can't wait for the better headsets that will show up in the future. RPO-style to begin, and beyond.
Sephiroth_VII
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I'd wait to see if it's a major success or not before buying another one. Beeing an early adopter is risky enough, don't get in too deep.
Also, you'd need two PS4's, and then maybe two PS4P's later down the road.
Scale is determined by interpupillary distance. Unfortunately, the PSVR doesn't have a physical IPD slider, so it's going to just always seem slightly off for you. This will vary from person to person depending on their IPD. Sounds like you have an uncommonly wide IPD.
Good point I never factored in the price of the s7 edge. I'm so conflicted right now. I have this 500 dollar unopened box just sitting on the dining room table. I just don't know if I want to pull the trigger.
DJmizuhara
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I was trying to look into the corners, but I couldn't carry on, upon exiting the corner made the feeling worse as I corrected my head position. I MAY try to use a wheel, but I'm very reluctant to go back into DriveClub.
Diprosalic
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FWIW, in terms of bang for your buck, the PSVR is a much better proposition for VR than mobileVR. Part of the associated cost with mobileVR is miniaturization of the hardware. You are basically paying more for weaker hardware, just because it's portable. That means the same cost goes farther with PSVR, because they aren't trying to build portable tech.
It can be used for both. It's mounted to the top of my tv now and it's super stable.
Haint
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Smaller actually, 59 according to my optometrist. There is a software IPD setting buried in menus (default is 63), but it doesn't seem to change much. The camera reads me as 60, I can't find a way to key it in manually. Can't really tell a difference between 63 and 60.
TheApatheticOne
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I went back and forth on this more than any gaming purchase I can think of, and Ive been gaming since Atari. However, despite that it used the Move controllers, which I dropped like a brick a lifetime ago, and was worried about the "gimmick" aspect, I took the plunge and purchased the launch bundle, Rigs, and Rush for Blood. Only got 2 hours with Rigs, but it's way better than I thought it'd be! Watching videoes on YouTube or Twitch does NOT do this thing justice and must be experienced. Although near the end I did get a little motion sickness, Rigs was a blast and genuinely an experience that felt newer than anything that I've played in quite some time. It's awesome! The graphics arent amazing, but it doesnt take long not to care as they are good enough, and it's such an unique experience.
Cant wait to dive in this weekend! Would love to try to squeeze BattleZone, Thumper, and Rez in, but man... all this is expensive! Lol
Quite the gaming weekend coming up!
Cant wait to dive in this weekend! Would love to try to squeeze BattleZone, Thumper, and Rez in, but man... all this is expensive! Lol
Quite the gaming weekend coming up!
kierkegaardsoren
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I have tried both and psvr is miles ahead of gear vr in terms of visual fidelity. It doesn't even compare. It's perhaps due to better optics? The pixelated experience of Gear VR ( with galaxy s7 edge ) was one of the reasons I was lukewarm and hesitant towards purchasing psvr. ( The other was giant bombs previous stream ). I am so glad that I ignored both and took the leap.
No tracking problems and no screen door effects. While the latter absolutely killed any sense of immersion I had in Gear VR.
Here in PSVR, the graphic details obviously do not reach that of a normal ps4 game; but what is there, coupled with the sense of presence, makes for a great experience. Maybe because I had realistic expextations but in some games, it looks much better than I expected. Specially London Heist, Batman and Playroom.
Orthogonal
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After a few hours with it, I am loving it. The tech may not be perfect, but it is a great introduction and demonstrates viability for the platform going forward.
There is so much to like from the demo I am going to have a hard time paring down to what I can reasonably purchase. Eve Valkyrie is intense and fun. Rigs was good. Thumper stole the show for me. It's a game that doesn't need VR, but makes it feel so much more epic because of it.
There is so much to like from the demo I am going to have a hard time paring down to what I can reasonably purchase. Eve Valkyrie is intense and fun. Rigs was good. Thumper stole the show for me. It's a game that doesn't need VR, but makes it feel so much more epic because of it.
Resolution isn't the be all and all. After using both Gear and PSVR, PSVR has better clarity for sure.
Most of the problems you speak of - the chromatic aberration especially - are a factor of the physical offset of the lenses. Software IPD sliders basically adjust the offset of the left and right images per screen, but the problems you are speaking about are because the actual lenses are in the wrong place. If the PSVR had a physical IPD slider, it would be moving those view ports in and out. The chromatic aberration is because your eyes are not falling dead center of the lenses, where they are corrected. Your eyes are basically seeing into the lenses at an angle.
Didn't the software ask you to indicate the center of your eyes in the pic for both cameras? You can probably adjust it by not pointing to the exact center. A bit of trial and error...
I'm actually a bit smaller IPD than you (30/28) so I can try it out when my PSVR arrives and let you know what I experience. The mention of chromatic aberration does ring of IPD misalignment though. We are on the lower end of adult IPDs below 60, particularly for males, so with the correcting only in software it will struggle more with either end of that scale.
I was using the small setting. I just noticed the message that says the screen will always be in front of you if you choose the small setting.. which is annoying
Medium and large does what I was asking for... but that screen size is way too large for watching movies.
Maybe I'm confusing resolution and visual fidelity and I'm glad you gave it a shot. I like gear VR but the gameplay is lacking and things do appear pixelated. I watched a few movies with Samsung VR and the 360 degrees was great but it was overall a pretty blurry experience. I am well aware that the psvr resolution wouldn't be that of a 1080p tv. I'm also keeping my expectations in check. So it looks better with less resolution?
I know right. So gutted there wasn't more of it. That first step forward gave me that elevator stopping feeling, but after that i was fine and absolutely loved it. Someone needs to make a full platformer like that. I honestly never expected something non first person to work so well in VR.
Sephiroth_VII
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Set it up so that the PS4 recognizes your face and logs you in automatically!
Yeah, that's it.
Totally, there's.much less screen door and the pixels are closer together at the centre of your view, which mitigates the lack of overall pixels.
Commanche Raisin Toast
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Thumper blew my mind. I went into it blind and didn't know anything about it. Wow.
Tumble VR was pretty nifty too! So much that I might actually pick it up eventually. Was relaxing and low pressure. I like that it's more than just stacking blocks. The puzzle variation was good.
So far my tracking with my headset, controller, and move wands has been SPOT ON. Hopefully everyone having issues gets it sorted out.
Tumble VR was pretty nifty too! So much that I might actually pick it up eventually. Was relaxing and low pressure. I like that it's more than just stacking blocks. The puzzle variation was good.
So far my tracking with my headset, controller, and move wands has been SPOT ON. Hopefully everyone having issues gets it sorted out.
Ok you guys convinced me. I'm ready to take the plunge. I'm getting a pro too which should help with picture quality as well.
ninjaboyjohn
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Don't forget the biggest differences:
1. Positional tracking - try leaning in and looking at anything in your gear Vr. You can't.
2. Tracked controllers - even if Move controllers aren't as precise as Touch / Vive, having some kind of hand tracking in VR makes for worlds of difference.
So yeah, any non-mobile VR is a chunk-o-change right now, but if you don't want to jump into PC-based VR, PSVR is a great option and delivers experiences way beyond what a GearVR can.
Vive / Rift w Touch >> PSVR w Move >>>>>>>>>> Gear VR >>>> Cardboard
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