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[Stuart360]

After all the money hatting Sony have, and continue to do, i think getting offered COD for 3 years beyond their current deal is pretty damn fair.

 

[Aenima]

Microsoft did not need to offer anything regarding COD in the first place, Jim

They need cuz they are afraid the regulators block the aquisition. Thats why Spencer PR lies sound like "we all about giving player more options, and there will be less exclusives in the future" when in the backstage they working to remove multiple previous multiplatform games from other consoles.

But aparently this forum loves this shit, while MS fucks up the videogame industry, ppl are clapping, YAY more games available on my piece of plastic, that was already available on my piece of plastic anyway but you cant play them anymore in your piece of plastic.

 

[onesvenus]

Nope. Sony never took off massive third-party IPs like Microsoft did, just because they couldn't produce their own.

The reason why they do that does not matter. Sony has make exclusive deals with massive third party games. It's obvious they aren't anything like CoD because there's only one of those but talking like Street Fighter, Final Fantasy, etc are not big is crazy

 

[adamsapple]

They explicitly mentioned competing consoles that covers Xbox.

The actual quote from the original interview itself is extremely vague and does not mention any platforms by name at all tho. For all we know, Jim is counting the PC community playing Destiny 2 as a "rival platform", some of the fans certainly do.

"The first thing to say unequivocally is that Bungie will stay an independent, multiplatform studio and publisher. Pete [Parsons, CEO] and I have spoken about many things over recent months, and this was one of the first, and actually easiest and most straightforward, conclusions we reached together. Everybody wants the extremely large Destiny 2 community, whatever platform they're on, to be able to continue to enjoy their Destiny 2 experiences. And that approach will apply to future Bungie releases. That is unequivocal.

PlayStation: Bungie deal is about multiplatform, live-service games

PlayStation's acquisition of Bungie may not result in exclusive PS5 games, but it will allow the platform holder to sig…

www.gamesindustry.biz

 

[Negotiator101]

Huh? are you reading? There's a difference between praising scummy mega corps rather than justifying it cause you love Daddy Phil.

Same goes for the LoU remake price, the PS increased prices, lack of 1440p support - diff is at least Sony is being upfront about them.

Uncle Phil.

 

[GametimeUK]

It's all about player choice and where you choose to play CoD.

Xbox Series X
Xbox Series S
or
PC

 

[cormack12]

Put me in the wrong camp. Wow. To actually put it that bluntly has convinced me it will become xbox exclusive.

Hands up, never thought I'd see the day.

Time for the apex legends etc to step up. Personally I think a good counter move but be getting counter strike on ps5 as exclusive.

 

[GHG]

"I hadn't intended to comment on what I understood to be a private business discussion, but I feel the need to set the record straight because Phil Spencer brought this into the public forum," Ryan stated.

Exactly what I said in the other thread. Shit like this is meant to be kept private but Phil insisted on taking it public to try and sway regulators via the media. Zero tact.

Jim, tell him to get fucked.

 

[The_Mike]

"Call of duty will never be exclusive. They can't afford to lose the revenue from Sony."

"Call of Duty will never hit Game Pass. Too expensive."

"We know we said it with Bethesda as well, but with Call of Duty deal is different. It was more expensive so therefore the revenue is more important from Sony this time."

 

[StealthGoblin]

Lol Sony is the main platform that takes away games from gamers

On a permanent basis? Nope. They do not buy IP and permenelty take it away from userbases that enjoy them.

Temporarily? For certain games? Yes. That is an entirely different thing that the competitions and marketing authority looks at.

 

[R3claimer117]

Kudos to Jim for telling it like it is

"It's inadequate"

"We believe in generations"

"We're increasing the price of the PS5"

What a hero.

Lmao Phil's response needs to be its inadequate that you took a popular franchise like Spider-Man that's was on every platform and made it exclusive. Matter fact activision ironically use to make it. Oh they even have an exclusive with companies we own for god sakes ghost wire and Arkanes game is still exclusive to PlayStation. What more does Jim want ?

 

[Warnen]

"I hadn't intended to comment on what I understood to be a private business discussion, but I feel the need to set the record straight because Phil Spencer brought this into the public forum," Ryan stated.

Exactly what I said in the other thread. Shit like this is meant to be kept private but Phil insisted on taking it public to try and sway regulators via the media. Zero tact.

Jim, tell him to get fucked.

seems like Phill told Jim to get fucked…

 

[Mr Moose]

Lmao Phil's response needs to be its inadequate that you took a popular franchise like Spider-Man that's was on every platform and made it exclusive. Matter fact activision ironically use to make it. Oh they even have an exclusive with companies we own for god sakes ghost wire and Arkanes game is still exclusive to PlayStation. What more does Jim want ?

Activision's Spider-Man is available on Xbox.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

Lmao Phil's response needs to be its inadequate that you took a popular franchise like Spider-Man that's was on every platform and made it exclusive.

Think Phil's smart enough not to make such a dumbass comparison

 

[HerjansEagleFeeder]

Aww poor Jimmy only caring about the wellbeing of his PS customers. What a nice guy. Oh wait...

 

[Three]

And there were people on here claiming that CoD wasn't a big deal lol. Meanwhile Sony/Jim are throwing a tantrum over potentially losing it.

That was MS when they were lying through their teeth about why they spent 70b

 

[johnjohn]

People should be happy about Sony losing market share. A more competitive industry is better for everyone.

 

[NickFire]

seems like Phill told Jim to get fucked…

What makes you interpret the situation that way. Seems like Phil offered a deal if Sony wouldn't object to merger, and Sony refused the deal. What am I missing?

 

[Yoboman]

 

[GHG]

seems like Phill told Jim to get fucked…

Jim told him it's inadequate. All or nothing, don't accept pity in business.

 

[R6Rider]

Lmao Phil's response needs to be its inadequate that you took a popular franchise like Spider-Man that's was on every platform and made it exclusive. Matter fact activision ironically use to make it. Oh they even have an exclusive with companies we own for god sakes ghost wire and Arkanes game is still exclusive to PlayStation. What more does Jim want ?

Should Phil also mention the time when MS had the option to make the Spider-man game, but turned it down?

 

[Eddie-Griffin]

Paywall. Got a way around that I can post in the OP?

Actually it turns out to be one free view, but yeah these guys reposted the article: https://www.businesslend.com/techno...osoft-of-misleading-claims-over-call-of-duty/

 

[OverHeat]

Suck it JIMBO!

 

[Jigga117]

Making a timed exclusive DLC and taking a game away from a console is not the same thing. According to this, Microsoft started that bullshit btw.

Good luck to those who will play a COD game on cloud servers or pay 2 times more than a console to play a game.

I thought that Microsoft would make it free day one on Gamepass. I think it's more than enough for atracting gamers to your console, if you don't want to destroy your rival.

I am fully aware MS did which is why I said circle of life. It is what it is. Jim and people need to accept what happens happens just like when it happen for Xbox Gamers losing the first tag to Sony then. MS doesn't own Sony or any other company sympathy just like Sony didn't care when it came to making games from companies they bought exclusive for their benefit let's stop with the overall concern about gamers when the majority will go where they will go to enjoy what they got. if Sony bought Activision this wouldn't go the way they are trying to make this go now.

 

[Hendrick's]

Sony bought Bungie and confirmed all existing and new Bungie games to be released on Xbox, even without any regulatory pressure.

Guarantee it was part of the key persons retention clause. Bungie has always been able to dictate some level of independence even through acquisitions. We all know this isn't Sony being gracious.

 

[Eddie-Griffin]

while MS fucks up the videogame industry,

Calm down, breath, take a walk outside, an rethink this post.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Hey Jim,

Don't forget to exclude any Bungie restrictions on MS too for any future games.

 

[abacab driver]

Ooooowee...

"Call of duty will never be exclusive. They can't afford to lose the revenue from Sony."

"Call of Duty will never hit Game Pass. Too expensive."

"We know we said it will Bethesda as well, but with Call of Duty deal is different. It was more expensive so therefore the revenue is more important from Sony this time."

I can't breathe! Lmmfao

 

[Negotiator101]

"I hadn't intended to comment on what I understood to be a private business discussion, but I feel the need to set the record straight because Phil Spencer brought this into the public forum," Ryan stated.

Exactly what I said in the other thread. Shit like this is meant to be kept private but Phil insisted on taking it public to try and sway regulators via the media. Zero tact.

Jim, tell him to get fucked.

Jim has nothing to bargain with, he and PS don't want this deal to go through that's the only reason he's saying it's inadequate. I can guarantee when the acquisition goes through Jim will be hoping Phil offers this deal, hopefully Phil still gives them the same deal even though Ryan is a dick.

 

[Banjo64]

"I hadn't intended to comment on what I understood to be a private business discussion, but I feel the need to set the record straight because Phil Spencer brought this into the public forum," Ryan stated.

Exactly what I said in the other thread. Shit like this is meant to be kept private but Phil insisted on taking it public to try and sway regulators via the media. Zero tact.

Jim, tell him to get fucked.

The CMA and EU equivalent will 100% take a dim view on the recent Xbox posturing.

 

[SlimySnake]

Lmao Phil's response needs to be its inadequate that you took a popular franchise like Spider-Man that's was on every platform and made it exclusive. Matter fact activision ironically use to make it. Oh they even have an exclusive with companies we own for god sakes ghost wire and Arkanes game is still exclusive to PlayStation. What more does Jim want ?

Marvel went to Sony and literally handed them the exclusive. It was because of Sony's first party pedigree did they get a shot at Spiderman and Wolverine.

 

[ChuckeRearmed]

They need cuz they are afraid the regulators block the aquisition.

No, what they wanted to do to is make the deal pass faster. Regulators cannot block the deal simply because we have a full fledged Nintendo platform that has close to 0 games from ABK and doing just fine.

 

[Bernd Lauert]

Phil was extremely fair to Jimbo, apparently offering CoD to stay on Playstation until 2028 or so. Now the deal is off the table I guess. Suck it, Jimbo

 

[Eddie-Griffin]

That was MS when they were lying through their teeth about why they spent 70b

No they weren't, MS directly said the acquisition was primarily for mobile, and it still would be since that's where most of the profits come from at Activision.

 

[splattered]

Maybe the plan is COD only gonna be around for a few more years, so MS guaranteed them through the remaining life of the franchise. Perhaps Sony doesn't even know this and throwing a fit over nothing?

 

[Dr. Samuel Hayden]

Jim Ryan/Phil Spencer hell in a cell match when?

 

[elliot5]

real hoes mad energy from Jimbo

 

[MarkMe2525]

I really can't see the Phil Spencer PR gotcha moment that several users are commenting on. Spencer is quoted as saying that they offered continued Call of duty releases for "several more years" as several is commonly used when referring to 3-5 of any given thing.

Ryan's clarification is something we already knew, granted he did provide extreme clarity to the statements.

 

[Aenima]

Calm down, breath, take a walk outside, an rethink this post.

You'r the one that needs to rethink your posts if you think buying major multiplatform publishers is not fucking up the videogame industry.

 

[Rossco EZ]

This is gangsta as shit.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

No, what they wanted to do to is make the deal pass faster. Regulators cannot block the deal simply because we have a full fledged Nintendo platform that has close to 0 games from ABK and doing just fine.

So do you think Nintendo would do fine without Mario, Pokemon or Zelda then?

 

[Stuart360]

Maybe the plan is COD only gonna be around for a few more years, so MS guaranteed them through the remaining life of the franchise. Perhaps Sony doesn't even know this and throwing a fit over nothing?

Why would they stop making COD,assuming its still selling huge?

 

[dotnotbot]

Xbox fans so annoyed about that exclusive content that they think taking away those games entirely from Playstation is perfectly fine and equal to what Sony did. Sweet revenge.

 

[pasterpl]

Microsoft will respond the best way they know how, by opening their wallet and acquiring EA.

Exactly what I wanted to say. I suspect that it might be their next target.

 

[Hendrick's]

"I hadn't intended to comment on what I understood to be a private business discussion, but I feel the need to set the record straight because Phil Spencer brought this into the public forum," Ryan stated.

Exactly what I said in the other thread. Shit like this is meant to be kept private but Phil insisted on taking it public to try and sway regulators via the media. Zero tact.

Jim, tell him to get fucked.

 

[yurinka]

That's not what Bungie says.

https://www.bungie.net/en/Explore/Detail/News/50988

Yes, what I said it's exactly what Bungie and SIE said: Bungie is now a 100% owned SIE subsidiary that will report to Jim Ryan.

They will have creative freedom, as their PS Studio development teams also have, but unlike them Bungie will keep publishing multiplatform using the Bungie publishing label, not under the PS Studios publishing label, even if SIE owns both publishers.

It's basically the same MS did with Bethesda: Bethesda continued publishing their post acquisition games as Bethesda, as it's the case of Deathloop on PS. Not as Microsoft Game Studios.

PS exclusives soon all releasing on PC

Sony said multiple times they don't plan to release new games on PS+PC. They even shown graphs showing that they will increase their number of new PS only games released per year and that the amount of old games ported to PC per year will continue being smaller than the amount of new games released for PS only.

So the amount of PS only games will increase over time, not decrease.

 

[MarkMe2525]

Thinking a little more on the subject, it makes sense that Sony would deny the offer as it would only assist MS regarding the regulatory response to the purchase of Activision. Sony would look complicit in the purchase if they accepted such an offer.

 

[pasterpl]

The CMA and EU equivalent will 100% take a dim view on the recent Xbox posturing.

Yeah, console that neogaf keeps reminding us is always coming last is now the big threat to the whole industry.

 

[lovetalkgames]

That's enough time to bring back Resistance, Socom, and MAG.

 

[Bernd Lauert]

I really can't see the Phil Spencer PR gotcha moment that several users are commenting on.

It's purely in certain people's imagination. It's really weird how console warring works sometimes.