ShmeebAlina
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Why would starting the game at a different time affect what you get if it's random numbers?
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Pokémon Community Thread 2: "This is the Real Power of Johto..."
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Aggrotek
Member
They aren't entirely truly random. It's hard to explain.
That's exactly why i'm not going to.
On another note, I wish Smogon would come back up. It's been down for a couple days now.
I looked at the app description yesterday when I posted about it, and this is correct.
You can give a Pokemon any ability, nature, ev, and iv. Even how you met it, whether you want it to be a shiny or not, what kind of pokeball you used to catch it, etc.
So basically, you can make a Shiny Lv. 100 Slaking, put in the ev's you want, the iv's you want, the nature you need, and you can give it an ability that isn't truant in seconds flat.
I'm just biding my time until October.
ShmeebAlina
Member
It sounds like a pain in the ass at any rate. When you've been playing for years, transferring pokes from gen to gen, you're bound to have a bunch with 30/31 IVs anyway. So now with the power item mechanics and that dude in the battle subway, it isn't too hard to get a poke with at least 2 max IVs.
Anyways, from what you're saying, I'm guessing this is what people meant by RNG not being cheating because you're just timing stuff, not directly using an external device...
Yes. Due to the way the RNG works in BW, a pokemon's stats are determined by two factors: When you boot up our game and, inside that, after how many frames (or "actions") you encounter a pokemon. RNG is basically predicting these 2 factors in order to get optimal pokemon, you don't tweak the game in any way other than changing the time on your Nintendo DS.
Cute Dragon Here
Member
So, do you think it might get thrown off if something unexpected happens along the way?
Anyway, I don't mess around with the RNG. I just play it in my own way.
Well, if you miss your time or frame you will get a different pokemon in terms of stats, but usually the method is pretty solid, so you know where you got it wrong.
Aggrotek
Member
Ah, good to hear.
Also, you made it into my Nuzlocke run.Yes, NPCs random movement can and will screw up things if you don't pay attention.
I tried to get into it but it isn't for me.
ScraftyDevil
Banned
I tried to RNG a perfect Adamant Technician Scizor and a perfect Sp. Attack nature Serene Grace Togekiss, but I failed hilariously. That was the first and last time I've ever tried to RNG something.
Massive respect for those who actually can do it, though. You guys know how to fudge the game in style B)
Massive respect for those who actually can do it, though. You guys know how to fudge the game in style B)
ThatObviousUser
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What's with your Avy, Wisey?
Snacks the sober sea lion
Member
Tell that to Game Freak then. Because they replace great features every generation that had no reason to be removed (Why can we not have Trainers Eyes and rematch Gym Leaders? We currently have neither). Also the single player hasn't gotten better so much as been different every generation. I mean, how many people will say Ruby Sapphire Emerald had a better adventure than Gold Silver Crystal? Mechanically, BW2 are the best by far, but the single player is completely lackluster. Basically nobody puts up a fight whatsoever until
Colress and Ghetsis fights
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Who's gonna make Pokemon XY OT? And what's the tagline?
I dunno. I never found a Pokemon game to be remotely close to anything above easy until B/W, and B2/W2 is the first one that actually made me careful in battle and training.
Pokémon XY |OT| The Z-Axis Is Here
Pokémon XY |OT| They Finally Ran Out Of Colours
Pokémon XY |OT| Vive la Kalos
Pokémon XY |OT| Team Chespin
someone think of something better
ScraftyDevil
Banned
I think lordfroakie's doing it (which is a shame because I would've liked to do it ;P) with help from injurai.
I also think Gizoogle already decided that the subtitle is "Up Yo' Butt Mothaf*cker."
It would be neat if the subtitle involved PokéBOMB though >_> #egotrip
Exterminieren
Banned
I'd argue that the X and Y subtitle should be something universal, not just a PokéGAF injoke.
Something like Pokémon X and Y |OT| XtraordinarY, for example.
But better, obviously. I've lost my Zero Shades of Grey mojo.
Something like Pokémon X and Y |OT| XtraordinarY, for example.
But better, obviously. I've lost my Zero Shades of Grey mojo.
ColtraineGF
Member
It was genius, i tells yaI'd argue that the X and Y subtitle should be something universal, not just a PokéGAF injoke.
Something like Pokémon X and Y |OT| XtraordinarY, for example.
But better, obviously. I've lost my Zero Shades of Grey mojo.
But there's plenty of time for names... like what, 4 months? (Oof...)
Cute Dragon Here
Member
I'd argue that the X and Y subtitle should be something universal, not just a PokéGAF injoke.
Something like Pokémon X and Y |OT| XtraordinarY, for example.
But better, obviously. I've lost my Zero Shades of Grey mojo.
That makes a lot more sense. Having an in-joke that flies past is a bad thing. That example does look a bit tacky, though.
Don't worry, we will end up with 51 shades at the very least next time around. Can't be zero? Then top them! Maybe there is infinite shades.
5th gen is like Platinum but with way less counting. It's not a huge deal if you mess up because you can try again so quickly. I had to do like 500 page flips in Platinum to get an HP grass Zapdos. It really sucked.
Someone said something about counting frames. If that's not there, then that sounds well.
Nope.
Professor Beef
Banned
Mibbit is down, that's the difference.
Which is why I always recommend to use a real IRC client.
Did Platinum RNG require frame counting? I don't remember I did any.
Yeah, don't you advance the frame with journal page flips? It's been a while.
All I remember is coin flips, in the Poketch.
Coin flips were used when breeding to get natures/shininess. There was a separate RNG algorithm used for that part of breeding and the Pokétch as opposed to almost everything else.
I wonder if X/Y's RNG will be cracked. It's much harder to get the basic data (e.g. how exactly the game uses the current time) without an emulator to find the bits in the code that do it - with ever more complicated RNG algorithms, trial and error is out of the question. There is the possibility that it doesn't change much from 5th gen; the only big change from 3rd to 4th gens was that the game used the DS clock.
I wonder if X/Y's RNG will be cracked. It's much harder to get the basic data (e.g. how exactly the game uses the current time) without an emulator to find the bits in the code that do it - with ever more complicated RNG algorithms, trial and error is out of the question. There is the possibility that it doesn't change much from 5th gen; the only big change from 3rd to 4th gens was that the game used the DS clock.
Manga Thread foolishness.
ThatObviousUser
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Liiink
ThatObviousUser
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Ah, thanks.
Wise-tan is pretty sugoi. Should have kept her in your avy.
Wise-tan is pretty sugoi. Should have kept her in your avy.
Dr.Palutena
Member
I agree, very sugoi desu.
ScraftyDevil
Banned
Daigaku imo.
I have no idea what any of us are talking about.
lordfroakie
Member
I'm making the pokemon XY OT
You're forgetting me.
Coldplay X&Y |OT| feat. Bug Catcher Satoshi Tajiri
Aggrotek
Member
lordfroakie
Member
Pokémon X & Y |OT| Now in 3D after 17 years of waiting
ScraftyDevil
Banned
Pokémon X & Y |OT| Cheese-Eating Surrender Mankeys