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[Gravijah]

Black and White relies on the Sports domes a little too much for grinding once you get to a higher level. Getting to lv 80 felt slower then Platinum but at least it literally gives you a lucky egg to speed things up.

whatchu need level 80 for

 

[Kokonoe]

When you beat the Elite 4, there should be an instant win button that gives you max levels and toggles your IVs/EVs the way you want to.

 

[Emitan]

When you beat the Elite 4, there should be an instant win button that gives you max levels and toggles your IVs/EVs the way you want to.

I agree with this 100%

 

[Exterminieren]

When you beat the Elite 4, there should be an instant win button that gives you max levels and toggles your IVs/EVs the way you want to.

barf.

 

[Emitan]

barf.

Stop sympathizing with the enemy.

 

[Chet Rippo]

The heck is mach rider

You are.

 

[Hot Coldman]

When Professor Wood gives you your Pokemon you should be able to pick IVs manually

and the choices are Bagon, Gible and Deino

 

[Stage On]

whatchu need level 80 for

Elite 4 round 2

 

[Chet Rippo]

When you beat the Elite 4, there should be an instant win button that gives you max levels and toggles your IVs/EVs the way you want to.

That's not fun. Think of fun things instead.

 

[Kokonoe]

barf.

Leveling up to 100 was fun the first few hundred times, now there isn't anything to prove anymore.

 

[Emitan]

That's not fun. Think of fun things instead.

EV grinding and breeding aren't fun.

 

[Gravijah]

Elite 4 round 2

you can take on the BW E4R2 in the late 60s/early 70s!

EV grinding and breeding aren't fun.

they are for some people. there are lots of people who don't find turn based RPGs, isometric viewpoint, etc fun but i wouldn't want those things changed.

 

[Hot Coldman]

EV grinding and breeding aren't fun.

 

[Emitan]

I'm not involved in your eugenics program.

 

[Chet Rippo]

EV grinding and breeding aren't fun.

Do you think Wind Waker is fun then?

 

[Boney]

Do you think Wind Waker is fun then?

wind waker exploring is more like exploring the overworld in pokemon, tons of fun and shit until you reach a place where you don't have an appropriate hm slave

still probably my favourite aspect of pokemon

 

[Emitan]

Do you think Wind Waker is fun then?

Yes because

wind waker exploring is more like exploring the overworld in pokemon, tons of fun and shit until you reach a place where you don't have an appropriate hm slave

 

[Stage On]

you can take on the BW E4R2 in the late 60s/early 70s!



they are for some people. there are lots of people who don't find turn based RPGs, isometric viewpoint, etc fun but i wouldn't want those things changed.

Eh, I like to match the level of their strongest Pokemon first before taking them on.

 

[Chet Rippo]

wind waker exploring is more like exploring the overworld in pokemon, tons of fun and shit until you reach a place where you don't have an appropriate hm slave

still probably my favourite aspect of pokemon

I was talking more about Wind Waker's win button.

 

[Gravijah]

wind waker exploring is more like exploring the overworld in pokemon, tons of fun and shit until you reach a place where you don't have an appropriate hm slave

still probably my favourite aspect of pokemon

there's only one place in the main game where you need an HM slave in BW1 and it's pretty early i think.

 

[tiggerkiddo]

In the remake of Hoehn, they should let you explore a jungle island with a volcano for virgin sacrifices, angry natives and paths that get you lost for days.

 

[Stage On]

Didn't they have it so your Pokemon where auto leveled to 100 for vs matches in Gen 4? I remember doing a few battles like that over wi-fi and it was SWEET.

They should do that again. No more grinding

 

[Boney]

there's only one place in the main game where you need an HM slave in BW1 and it's pretty early i think.

i mean late game exploring

that's why gen 2 was so awesome

 

[Gravijah]

i mean late game exploring

that's why gen 2 was so awesome

waterfall

 

[Stage On]

In the remake of Hoehn, they should let you explore a jungle island with a volcano for virgin sacrifices, angry natives and paths that get you lost for days.

That sounds like the post game island where you get a house in Platinum

 

[Chet Rippo]

there's only one place in the main game where you need an HM slave in BW1 and it's pretty early i think.

That's why it's so boring.

 

[Hot Coldman]

In the remake of Hoehn, they should let you explore a jungle island with a volcano for virgin sacrifices, angry natives and paths that get you lost for days.

So, you want a Roberta Williams-directed remake of RSE then.

 

[Kokonoe]

 

[Stage On]

That's why it's so boring.

Urg I hate having to waste space on my team for an HM slave just to cart me around.

Doubly so when you need one to reach a legendary Pokemon since that's one less meat shield to use when you're trying to capture the darn things.

 

[Gravijah]

one HM slave usually isn't too bad, because then you still have 5 other Pokemon to use. i usually spread HMs as much as possible around my team, and then i'll have a slave for the others.

 

[Exterminieren]

Grinding and eugenics isn't fun.

Inputting numbers into a spreadsheet for a perfect Pokémon is even less fun.

 

[tiggerkiddo]

That sounds like the post game island where you get a house in Platinum

In a way...but that was inhabited by people.

So, you want a Roberta Williams-directed remake of RSE then.

Not sure what you mean by that.

 

[Gravijah]

Grinding and eugenics isn't fun.

grinding is fun.

 

[Kokonoe]

Grinding is too pointless for me to find it enjoyable.

 

[Boney]

grinding is fun.

noup

that's why raid mode is so terrible

 

[tiggerkiddo]

Trying to remember a game where I enjoyed grinding...well it definitely wasn't Pokemon, I can tell you that.

Maybe Kingdom Hearts? Anyway, that's why we have the Lucky Egg!

 

[Gravijah]

that reminds me, why did you disappear from steam Kokonoe?!

noup

that's why raid mode is so terrible

you don't have to grind in raid mode. i don't think i replayed many stages, and i got up to the highest difficulty before getting burnt out.

 

[Stage On]

one HM slave usually isn't too bad, because then you still have 5 other Pokemon to use. i usually spread HMs as much as possible around my team, and then i'll have a slave for the others.

Sure that works for some moves like Surf which is generally good but do you really want to waste a move slot on your prime team on a garbage move like Cut?

 

[Boney]

you don't have to grind in raid mode. i don't think i replayed many stages, and i got up to the highest difficulty before getting burnt out.

well you haven't played the last set of difficulty

 

[Gravijah]

Sure that works for some moves like Surf which is generally good but do you really want to waste a move slot on your prime team on a garbage move like Cut?

i pop Rock Smash, Cut, etc on my team, sometimes. it's just one slot.

 

[Stage On]

i pop Rock Smash, Cut, etc on my team, sometimes. its' just one slot.

But it's such a pain in the but to erase the move and then lean an actual good one once you need it.

Needing heart scales to do that is just

I wish Pokemon had their entire move pool available with more unlocking as you level up and get TMS and then you just selected which 4 they have available to use in battle.

They are doing so much other stuff to speed up things to get your Pokemon competitive ready that they might as well speed that aspect of it as well

 

[Chet Rippo]

It isn't first gen anymore, you can get rid of HMs.

 

[ScraftyDevil]

Trying to remember a game where I enjoyed grinding...well it definitely wasn't Pokemon, I can tell you that.

Maybe Kingdom Hearts? Anyway, that's why we have the Lucky Egg!

Probably. I always loved the combat in Kingdom Hearts; even when I was grinding for hours on end so I could be appropriately levelled for the secret boss.

I quite enjoyed grinding in Persona 4, but maybe that's just because anything was better than fighting Shadow Yukiko.

 

[Stage On]

It isn't first gen anymore, you can get rid of HMs.

True what's the point when TMS are reusable now anyhow

 

[Boney]

It isn't first gen anymore, you can get rid of HMs.

noup

 

[Stage On]

Probably. I always loved the combat in Kingdom Hearts; even when I was grinding for hours on end so I could be appropriately levelled for the secret boss.

I quite enjoyed grinding in Persona 4, but maybe that's just because anything was better than fighting Shadow Yukiko.

I love grinding in when playing games in the Tales system since the battle system is usually so active and dynamic. I usually go into battles to use a move a certiant number of times to unlock a new one or something like that and the next thing I know I've gained several levels with out even thinking about it.

 

[tiggerkiddo]

I love grinding in when playing games in the Tales system since the battle system is usually so active and dynamic. I usually go into battles to use a move a certiant number of times to unlock a new one or something like that and the next thing I know I've gained several levels with out even thinking about it.

That reminds me why I didn't hate the battle system in Grandia because using moves a bunch of times unlocked much better moves. Dynamic Pokemon battles would be quite the thing though...it seems it'd work better if you were directly in control of the Pokemon instead of just barking out commands.

 

[Chet Rippo]

noup

 

[Professor Beef]

I will murder you.

But not with Mawile.

 

[Emitan]

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