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[Professor Beef]

I know its ability is kinda shitty, but I was simply going for the idea that "we only have 4 Pulse moves" when in the Japanese names there's probably a few more.

I figured that they'd be including more Pulse moves, but they'd have to damn well be worth it.

 

[Boss Doggie]

I figured that they'd be including more Pulse moves, but they'd have to damn well be worth it.

Who knows, maybe Mega Launcher doubles its attack power.

 

[Professor Beef]

Who knows, maybe Mega Launcher doubles its attack power.

I don't have that much faith in Game Freak.

 

[Firestorm]

Still can't believe Mega Blastoise is getting a shit ability.

So is Venusaur. Charizard is the real Kanto starter. All bow to your new overlord.

 

[Boss Doggie]

I don't have that much faith in Game Freak.

Their improvements in the battle aspects are pretty good even if we simply use Gen 5. At the very least, even if you don't like their non-battle stuff, their updates in stuff like Sturdy and Multiscale are amazing.

So is Venusaur. Charizard is the real Kanto starter. All bow to your new overlord.

Thick Fat = defensive wall.

Only good megazard has is "timed" droughts, and that's assuming you can make it last long enough in play lol

 

[Professor Beef]

Thick Fat = defensive wall.

Psychic-types still exist, you know.

 

[ArchedThunder]

So is Venusaur. Charizard is the real Kanto starter. All bow to your new overlord.

Mega Venusaur loses his weaknesses to Fire and Ice and both of his defensive stats get boosts. He will be an amazing wall.

 

[Boss Doggie]

Yeah people forget it also boosted DEF and SDEF

Psychic-types still exist, you know.

Hah, people use Psychic attacks?

Flying I give you that, but Psychic? Hah!

 

[ArchedThunder]

Psychic-types still exist, you know.

You mean like how stealth rock still exists? Venusaur already has a pretty high special defense stat and now that gets a boost.

 

[Boss Doggie]

Psychic attacks are gimped anyway. Only SE vs Fighting and Poison, both of which are weak to other types that have more coverage.

 

[Professor Beef]

You mean like how stealth rock still exists? Venusaur already has a pretty high special defense stat and now that gets a boost.

...he still has trouble against any decent Psychic-type.

Psychic attacks are gimped anyway. Only SE vs Fighting and Poison, both of which are weak to other types that have more coverage.

And your attempted hand-waving is pathetic.

 

[ArchedThunder]

...he still has trouble against any decent Psychic-type.

And now he gets a boost to his defenses.

...he still has trouble against any decent Psychic-type.

And your attempted hand-waving is pathetic.

Says the guy trying to dismiss Mega Venusaur.

 

[MikeMyers]

What abilities are the Kanto megas getting?

 

[ArchedThunder]

What abilities are the Kanto megas getting?

Charizard gets Drought, Venusaur gets Thick Fat, and Blastoise gets a new one that powers up "Pulse" moves by an unknown amount.

 

[Firestorm]

If Mega Evolution is restricted to one 'mon per battle, I'd have a tough time dedicating it to a defensive Grass / Poison type with no access to an item, Rage Powder, or Spore. Move issues might be fixed in Gen 6 but the rest aren't.

Charizard may have an unfortunate weakness to Rock Slide, but Drought's at least worth your Mega slot (especially with how bad Ninetales is). Heat Wave with boosted SpAtk is a good advantage. Especially as I think they're going to make it faster based on the design.

You mean like how stealth rock still exists? Venusaur already has a pretty high special defense stat and now that gets a boost.

Stealth Rock is irrelevant outside the custom formats on Smogon and Pokemon Online. On GBU and official tournaments, you'd be wasting your turn using it.

 

[MikeMyers]

Charizard gets Drought, Venusaur gets Thick Fat, and Blastoise gets a new one that powers up "Pulse" moves by an unknown amount.

LOL Blastoise just got Flareon'd!

By the way, Psychic types aren't too big of a deal since Pursuit exists.

 

[ArchedThunder]

And so it begins...
I just got a video ad for X and Y on Youtube.

Stealth Rock is irrelevant outside the custom formats on Smogon and Pokemon Online. On GBU and official tournaments, you'd be wasting your turn using it.

I'm not really a huge fan of double battles, I prefer single battles.

 

[Professor Beef]

Yeah, I'd still prefer Chlorophyll Venusaur.

 

[ArchedThunder]

By the way Firestorm, since you are pretty knowledgeable about the official tournaments, why are they Double Battles?

 

[Firestorm]

By the way Firestorm, since you are pretty knowledgeable about the official tournaments, why are they Double Battles?

I'd say a mix of them being faster to complete, having the most balance-testing done (along with 3v3 singles), and being more interesting from a strategy/spectator perspective. I'd say the importance is in that order too.

 

[Toxi]

Psychic-types still exist, you know.

...he still has trouble against any decent Psychic-type.

And your attempted hand-waving is pathetic.

Psychic type attacks are generally considered mediocre. The only common type they hit for super-effective damage is Fighting, and they're not very effective against Steel. Psychic type Pokemon can be considered good, but it's usually due to other factors like Magic Bounce.

Although at least they're more common than Flying attacks.

Yeah, I'd still prefer Chlorophyll Venusaur.

Get a Chlorophyll Venusaur with a Mega Stone and evolve it when you lose the weather war for a more relevant ability. Seems like a decent solution to me for versatility, although you won't get the sheer attacking or tanking power of either one.

 

[The Shadow Knight]

The lack of leftovers on Mega Venusaur really hampers its walling potential...

 

[ffdgh]

The lack of leftovers on Mega Venusaur really hampers its walling potential...

There's always ingrain.

 

[Boss Doggie]

And your attempted hand-waving is pathetic.

What handwaving? Especially when Psychic attacks are less visible vs. Bug/Flying/Fire/Ground/Rock/Ice...

And calling me pathetic even. Makes me wonder how much you do play...

By the way, Psychic types aren't too big of a deal since Pursuit exists.

Sucker Punch too.

Seriously, there's a reason why people say Psychic types are actually considered weakened.

 

[SenorArdilla]

If Poison become more common because of the introduction to Fairy, it could lead to a resurgence of Psychic types. Which means more Dark types. Who are beaten by Fighting.

 

[Boss Doggie]

If Poison become more common because of the introduction to Fairy, it could lead to a resurgence of Psychic types. Which means more Dark types. Who are beaten by Fighting.

But Poison types already have a bane. It's called Ground type (offensively) and Steel type (defensively).

If the rumors are true that it's also weak to Steel, then most prevalent Steel types will enjoy their STAB Steel moves as well.

 

[Watch Da Birdie]

The Pulse Moves are all "Hadou" in Japan (the same thing they call Aura, Lucario's powers, so it's weird he didn't learn it), so Aura Sphere might count...but the other moves are X Hadou, while it's Hadoudan.

 

[Kyzer]

Wait is psychic not SE against grass as well as poison? My life is a lie...

Also, I think you guys are underestimating Megastoise. If it is a 50% hell be one of the most versatile pokemon of all time, kanye style. Hes already got great def and his sp atk would become, well, useable.

 

[Boss Doggie]

I just find it weird that they didn't specify what stats are boosted for Mega Blastoise (normally they mention it). I reckon they're offenses though.

 

[Cute Dragon Here]

I believe that at least there'll be some kind of useful thing that comes with them for the most part, though I have a feeling that no one will bother with them Mega stuff.

Introducing new types can be hilarious if done wrong.

 

[Boss Doggie]

 

[Cute Dragon Here]

It's both perfectly sensible and WTF.

 

[qq more]

SSJ MEGA AMPHAROS

HOLY SHIT

 

[ffdgh]

the only flaw is that it's not a monkey...but it is Fabulous

 

[backlot]

I'm not really a huge fan of double battles, I prefer single battles.

Stealth Rock doesn't even get used on GBU singles. The battles are just too short.

 

[J. Bravo]

I'm sure it's been discussed already, but what starters are you guys picking? Personally, I'm going with Froakie, and then grabbing Charmander. Droughtzard could be devastating, if mega evolutions are allowed in the metagame (even though he's still the shitty type of Fire/Flying).

 

[Boss Doggie]

Chespin-Squirtle-Torchic

Just as Arceus intended

SSJ MEGA AMPHAROS

HOLY SHIT

It's already Level 3 even!

 

[nubbe]

3000 Bidoofs
Are you a bad enough trainer to do it?

 

[Snacks the sober sea lion]

Can only the starter you get from the professor megavolve? In which case I'd have to do Squirtle.

Can't decide between Chespin or Froakie until their evolutions are known.

 

[Aggrotek]

Can only the starter you get from the professor megavolve? In which case I'd have to do Squirtle.

Can't decide between Chespin or Froakie until their evolutions are known.

I'm curious about this too because if I can't mega evolve my shiny charmander I'd have to pick that him.

 

[CorvoSol]

Is it true that it is now impossible to get a Magic Bounce Eevee?

 

[DaBoss]

I was gonna choose Chespin, but I decided to not use Torchic or the Kanto starter till post-game.

Can only the starter you get from the professor megavolve? In which case I'd have to do Squirtle.

Can't decide between Chespin or Froakie until their evolutions are known.

I'm curious about this too because if I can't mega evolve my shiny charmander I'd have to pick that him.

I doubt they would limit it like that.

 

[Caladrius]

I'm going to try for a Kalos pokemon-only run for the first time through, so I'm just using Froakie. On my next run I'm definitely using Fennekin & Squirtle.

Are there any pogeymans from previous gens that you hope are available pre-E4?

I want Crobat, Golurk, Gallade, Crawdaunt and Mawile to show up. Dat type diversity (Last one is likely but B2W2 taught me not to take featured pokemon for granted.)

 

[JoeM86]

Is it true that it is now impossible to get a Magic Bounce Eevee?

Correct. Eevee's Hidden Ability is Anticipation.

 

[backlot]

Is it true that it is now impossible to get a Magic Bounce Eevee?

If you are looking for a Dream World Eevee someone could still breed one for you.

 

[Wilbur]

I'm doing what a few of you guys are and only using Karos (or is it Kalos? I can't remember) Pokemon but gonna get a Charmander when I can.

Can't decide between Chespin and Froakie yet. I need to see them starter evos ;_;

 

[Aggrotek]

How early in the game are we allowed to use the Bank?

 

[ColtraineGF]

How early in the game are we allowed to use the Bank?

My guess is whenever you get the ability to trade.

 

[Professor Beef]

Get a Chlorophyll Venusaur with a Mega Stone and evolve it when you lose the weather war for a more relevant ability. Seems like a decent solution to me for versatility, although you won't get the sheer attacking or tanking power of either one.

If I lose the weather war, then it means I've already lost the match. Mega Venusaur isn't going to change that.

 

[TrueBlue]

Considering I already have Blastoise and Charizard, I'm gonna go Bulbasaur + Fennekin. Of course, that means.I can't fit in Torchic :/