HypnoDarkrai
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Bug and Ice
Stealth Rocks need a nerf
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Pokémon Community Thread 3: "Soon, All of Hoenn Will Be Under Its Withering Glare "
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Stealth Rocks need a nerf
Too bad it'll never happen because Gamefreak doesn't pay any attention to any of the metagames where Stealth Rock is actually relevant.
HypnoDarkrai
Member
I can dream :/
ColtraineGF
Member
To expand on what I said in XII:
It will be unclear, as these changes that we know of so far can only be taken in the context of how the game is at the moment. However, there are a few things one could glean from a surface perspective:
1. Fairy being SE against Dragon and being immune to Dragon
Attempted Dragon debuff/hard counter - to a greater extent than the others.
2. Fairy being SE against Fighting and being resistant to Fighting
Attempted protection from one of the best offensive types, while not being completely immune.
3. Fairy being resistant to Bug
Attempted protection against the recently buffed Bug type without nerfing it by making it weak to Fairy.
Assuming the hypothetical of a lack of Fighting type, they've may've wanted to make the following relationship offensively:
Steel/Poison > Fairy > Dark/Ghost > Steel
4. Steel being SE against Fairy and being resistant to Fairy
5. Poison being SE against Fairy and being resistant to Fairy
In the circumstance of Steel gaining more use, Poison gets a buff as well because of its negative relationship vs. Steel.
6. Fairy being SE against Dark and being resistant to Dark
7. Dark/Ghost being neutral vs. Steel
Slight offensive buff to Dark and Ghost.
8. Fairy being NVE against Fire
Attempted Fire defensive buff (Sneaky Pebbles notwithstanding). It doesn't take SE damage because Fire is already a great offensive type.
Fairy's place in the table is pretty patch heavy. Can't wait to see what other surprises await.
(note: feel free to correct me if I was wrong on any of the above points, didn't really look towards specific Pokemon)
It will be unclear, as these changes that we know of so far can only be taken in the context of how the game is at the moment. However, there are a few things one could glean from a surface perspective:
1. Fairy being SE against Dragon and being immune to Dragon
Attempted Dragon debuff/hard counter - to a greater extent than the others.
2. Fairy being SE against Fighting and being resistant to Fighting
Attempted protection from one of the best offensive types, while not being completely immune.
3. Fairy being resistant to Bug
Attempted protection against the recently buffed Bug type without nerfing it by making it weak to Fairy.
Assuming the hypothetical of a lack of Fighting type, they've may've wanted to make the following relationship offensively:
Steel/Poison > Fairy > Dark/Ghost > Steel
4. Steel being SE against Fairy and being resistant to Fairy
5. Poison being SE against Fairy and being resistant to Fairy
In the circumstance of Steel gaining more use, Poison gets a buff as well because of its negative relationship vs. Steel.
6. Fairy being SE against Dark and being resistant to Dark
7. Dark/Ghost being neutral vs. Steel
Slight offensive buff to Dark and Ghost.
8. Fairy being NVE against Fire
Attempted Fire defensive buff (Sneaky Pebbles notwithstanding). It doesn't take SE damage because Fire is already a great offensive type.
Fairy's place in the table is pretty patch heavy. Can't wait to see what other surprises await.
(note: feel free to correct me if I was wrong on any of the above points, didn't really look towards specific Pokemon)
Black-Wind
Member
Where do you pre-order the Pokemon XY 3DS XL from?
Can't find it on Amazon :[
Can't find it on Amazon :[
Amazon doesn't sell Nintendo systems anymore unless it's from a 3rd party seller.
GameStop and I think BestBuy has them for pre-order. Might wanna check there
Black-Wind
Member
Amazon doesn't sell Nintendo systems anymore unless it's from a 3rd party seller.
GameStop and I think BestBuy has them for pre-order. Might wanna check there
Thanks! BestBuy here I come!
Looking at the "most/least" weaknesses on the left, see it hasn't updated the chart yet. Sableye and Spiritomb are still listed as having no weaknesses...
Kinda odd we don't have a Dark/Psychic pokemon. Seems like a fairly possible combination, as opposed to e.g. Fire/Water.
Inkay and Malamar are Dark/Psychic, actually.
That sucker has an almost guaranteed team slot for me.
With point 6 are you saying fairy being SE against Dark works as an offensive buff to Dark types? I'd say it's actually a pretty big defensive debuff for Dark types.
Coltraine is referring to the steel nerf.
Malamar is fucking awesome. Dark/psychic squid, it doesn't get much cooler than that.
So what Pokemon has everyone decided to use for their initial run? I've got Chespin, Malamar, and Pyroar/Talonflame lined up. Maybe a fairy type if I find one I like.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Hey guys I just got up, what do you mean by other-
...Oh, that thread. Eh, seeing the OP, somehow I am not surprised. But hey, if they feel like they want to be reclusive, let them be. They're painting their own picture anyway.
In any case yeah, seems like Dark got the nerf stick today. :/
...Oh, that thread. Eh, seeing the OP, somehow I am not surprised. But hey, if they feel like they want to be reclusive, let them be. They're painting their own picture anyway.
In any case yeah, seems like Dark got the nerf stick today. :/
Well, actually...
Well, technically....
Well, somewhat...
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
So English update this evening huh?
UltimateIke
Member
This thread likes Gen II just as much as any other thread. :<
ScraftyDevil
Banned
Naw, apparently we're not good enough for some people.
I'm sorry, I'm just so bitter about this whole thing. :/
Aggrotek
Member
ScraftyDevil
Banned
Hardcover books are always more expensive since hardcover stuff is...more expensive lol.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
wait what, that's new
Also would it be hilarious if Pyroar can't learn Fire Blast
Just ignore it. Let the echo chamber echo itself.
Also would it be hilarious if Pyroar can't learn Fire Blast
Just ignore it. Let the echo chamber echo itself.
I pre-ordered it, so I'm pretty sure that keeps me locked in at $11.99, but yeah that has to be a mistake or something. I was just worried it was an unofficial guide or something. Still though, a 416 page hardcover guide for $11.99 ain't bad.
whoa, that's weird. great price for the hardcover though at $12. it's more expensive on amazon.ca
Please don't have an "us vs. them" mentality.
Only difference I can spot is that the paperback one seems to be wider than the hardcover one. I think you may want to contact Amazon about it, just to be safe.
I don't even see the paperback one on amazon.ca and hardcover shows up as $16.60. Discounted from $22.99.
Only difference I can spot is that the paperback one seems to be wider than the hardcover one. I think you may want to contact Amazon about it, just to be safe.
I don't even see the paperback one on amazon.ca and hardcover shows up as $16.60. Discounted from $22.99.
ArchedThunder
Banned
I woke up and found out about the Gen I-II thread.
Hahaha, wow.
Hahaha, wow.
Snacks the sober sea lion
Member
wait what, that's new
Also would it be hilarious if Pyroar can't learn Fire Blast
Watch it specialize in Attack and have mediocre Special Attack.
ScraftyDevil
Banned
It's not a matter of "us vs. them," it's a matter of tact. No matter how you look at it, making that thread specifically as a Community thread was a very rude gesture towards everyone who frequents and loves this thread, especially Ike.
I'll probably stop being mad sometime tomorrow, but until then I need to let off steam occasionally so I don't overheat.
It's not looking good
There's that neat offensive buff against Steel-types, but that literally doesn't help Scrafty in the slightest. I'm sorry.
IceDoesntHelp
Banned
ScraftyDevil
Banned
It's okay. I'll have Ike as my wingman to switch into Fairy attacks, and I never leave home without my Scizor (whose Bullet Punch will tear through Fairies like me at a dessert buffet).
And hey, maybe they'll expand Scrafty's moveset to help him deal with Fairies more effectively! Maybe he'll expand his arsenal of headbutt attacks with Iron Head!
UltimateIke
Member
Don't go losing your pants now, Scrafty.
FUBAR McDangles
Member
Never had a guide book for a pokemon game before. Good idea?
Yea, I've already said how I feel.
It just seemed like it may head into that direction, which is not something a community needs. But if you're just letting out steam, then OK.
Not sure why the logo is slapped on there, but that looks hilarious lol.
You don't give pants to a thief!
Are you insinuating Golem shits all over Espeon?
You made me spit my drink out laughing, you fiend.
That's the spirit. It dawned on me that my precious Gallade has such a wide movepool he'll be able to work around these new setbacks with aplomb. Still going to be horribly outclassed by Gardevoir and possibly mega-gardy, but the dream will live on.