OcarinaOfDoom
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True. Yeah, hold items work pretty well for balancing, although Mega Mewtwo is probably going to end up op.
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Pokémon Community Thread 3: "Soon, All of Hoenn Will Be Under Its Withering Glare "
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PreyingShark
Member
Mewtwo's banned in serious play so...
OcarinaOfDoom
Member
yeah, but I can imagine Mega Mewtwo potentially being too strong for Ubers.
Have they mentioned what stat changes the Mega Mewtwo's are getting? Since Mega Garchomp loses speed I'd imagine Mewtwo drops some stats as well.
Mega Uber tier.
My guess is that Y Mewtwo would have boots on its attack+spec and lowered defense+spec defense attack while X Mewtwo would be the reverse of it.
megablaziken can tag along too.
denied
ArchedThunder
Banned
Am I the only one that hopes that with the next games they let you pick the background or "stage" of the battles in multiplayer games. The generic digital room is boring, what if I want to fight my friends on the ocean or in a cave or on an island?
Sigismundo
Member
Honestly Mega Garchomp is likely going to be worse than Garchomp simply from the lowered Speed.
Speed is the most important stat in the game and Garchomp can't afford to be any slower. It's positioned at a very good spot as is.
Speed is the most important stat in the game and Garchomp can't afford to be any slower. It's positioned at a very good spot as is.
that would be pretty unfortunate for Mewtwo X
Sigismundo
Member
Well it's Psychic/Fighting. It'll probably be able to pull off a good mixed set (since the best physical Psychic move is Zen Headbutt and it'll probably get Close Combat or something)
How so? There's no indication that MMX wouldn't get attack power equal to Y.
No No...his new attack for X will be psycho crusher. A fighting type attack that's also psychic
For what it's worth, Arceus is the strongest Pokemon in ubers, by a fairly large margin and it never got banned. It was so dominant, to the point where nearly every high level ubers players use one of its 8+ types in a match) that i'm sure Mega Mewtwo will probably fare the same way even if it gets like 160 Special Attack.
Sigismundo
Member
I'm only going to accept this if there's an M. Bison outfit in-game.No No...his new attack for X will be psycho crusher. A fighting type attack that's also psychic
PreyingShark
Member
The point of Mega Mewtwo is so people who play the game more casually can just destroy things ingame and have a blast.
There is no GF-supported format with Mewtwo. Therefore, Mewtwo's balance is irrelevant in GF's eyes. And since Ubers is primarily a banlist, I doubt Smogon will care too much either.
Any Pokemon you give a Mega Stone is gonna be gimped before you evolve it anyway just from the lack of a hold item. Mewtwo's Attack really isn't terrible either.
Dr. Buni
Member
You are not, but more important than being able to pick the background, would be being able to change the battle music of the wifi matches. Listening always to the same music in every battle will be a pain in the ass.
ScraftyDevil
Banned
War Raichu
Member
I seem to recall hearing you can do just that in X/Y
They confirmed that you can pick the music in multiplayer battles at E3
Game of the forever.
I'm already tired of that generic digital battle background though...
Professor Beef
Banned
That'd screw with Nature Power.
It could still count as "Plain" just with a different appearance.
They confirmed that you can pick the music in multiplayer battles at E3
My god, that is glorious!
Edit for Emitan: yeah last I checked Transgaf you left Gaf (understabily) more than a little upset
Good to see you forgave us lol!
ScraftyDevil
Banned
As long as the selection is good, it should be quite the lovely feature ^_^
Also, it's good to have you back.
Professor Beef
Banned
...Emi left?
ArchedThunder
Banned
13 days... The passing of time has been pretty quick for me but suddenly I have hit a wall. Damn you brain.
Cute Dragon Here
Member
I'm not even remotely aware of that, or the circumstances leading up to it...
Dr. Buni
Member
They confirmed that you can pick the music in multiplayer battles at E3
Game of the Forever indeed.
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Deleted member 231381
Unconfirmed Member
I think they each have their own strengths and weaknesses for the most part. BW and BW2 are probably straight up the worst; they're just overly linear and the routes never feel like they have the scale of earlier generations. DPPt has an absolutely excellent overworld design, length and variety, yeah, but is somewhat hamstringed on occasion by the overuse of HMs as obstacles. HGSS is pretty perfect. I mean, in terms of the level progression and so on, it's a bit borked, but the actual overworld itself and ignoring how the structure is placed on top of the overworld, it's juts the best for me, by a long way. RSE I find difficult to make my mind up on. I think it actually has the best early-game overworld - all of the game up until Norman is literally home run after home run in terms of pacing and overworld design. After that, it starts slipping a bit, with the routes up towards Lilycove being overly busy and a chore to navigate. Finally, the end-game just collapses entirely into Wingulls and Tentacools. Definitely goes from hero to zero. FRLG is excellent in terms of non-linearity and scale, but there's just not enough variety - everywhere is pretty same-y after a while.
I think I'd rank overworlds something like this:
HGSS > DPPt >>> RSE > FRLG >>>>> BW/BW2.
Unova was clearly the best. Also, I don't know but I kinda miss the many surf sections of RSE...
To be fair, Sinnoh, Kanto and Hoenn are also linear, there's just the illusion of it not being so because the routes overlap
Yep, exactly this. I believe every Pokemon game is actually linear and this is certainly not a bad thing. Unova was probably too linear, but at least there was a plethora of different places. Industrial sites, deserts, ruins, bridges, water, caves etc.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Sinnoh > Hoenn > Kanto > Unova > Johto for maps.
And even then the only true non-linear one is Sinnoh.
And even then the only true non-linear one is Sinnoh.
Dr. Buni
Member
If that is the case, they did a great job at fooling me then.
Still, even if all of the regions are linear, I like the cities and routes of Sinnoh more than the lifeless ones of Unova.
Yeah Unova is too linear for my tastes, but picking up BW again I did notice it has some clever hidden areas. It's still dwarfed by the variety of DPP and HGSS. I also felt Unova was sort of random. Hey here's a desert in the middle of nowhere! And here's some fog! And an ancient tower why not! DPP also had really different areas including a city covered in a blizzard, but on the map everything was logical and made sense. The snowy city was in the far north. The mining town was near the mountains. A city near the water was modeled after a port. Everything is different yet still ties together.
HGSS may be based on an 8 bit game, but the game world is huge and there is a ton of stuff to find and see. HGSS had an absurd amount of content that highlighted the scope of the overworld. Also a lot of it is based on Kansai and ancient Japan which is personally appealing to me.
I'm not a fan of Hoenn either. Too... much... water.
HGSS may be based on an 8 bit game, but the game world is huge and there is a ton of stuff to find and see. HGSS had an absurd amount of content that highlighted the scope of the overworld. Also a lot of it is based on Kansai and ancient Japan which is personally appealing to me.
I'm not a fan of Hoenn either. Too... much... water.
Cute Dragon Here
Member
Sometimes nostalgia just tugs on people.
Sometimes, though... I want to leave it behind.
Sometimes, though... I want to leave it behind.
Eh?
Dr. Buni
Member
Opinions.
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Deleted member 231381
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Kanto isn't really. After you get the PokeFlute, there's two fairly different routes which you can use to access Fuschia, and pretty much all of the gym-leaders after Misty can be done in different orders. You have to do Brock, followed by Misty. After that, you can do Surge, Erika, Sabrina and Koga in any order. Blaine's only pre-requirement is that you've beaten Koga. I can't remember precisely what triggers Giovanni, but I know you don't have to do him last because the very first time I played Yellow, I actually did Sabrina last because I had no idea what allowed you to get into Saffron City and had completed the entire rest of the game first. Possibly defeating Blaine? Anyway, it's much more open than the following games.
Sinnoh is really good in variety and seems to be the biggest, but not much was happening in the many cities. Probably my favourite region when it wasn't causing slowdowns.
Unova had many things happening in the cities. The only problem people really have with it is just the layout of the map. If it was laid out in a way that didn't look linear, people wouldn't at an eye at it.
Hoenn is the weakest due to water, but it's land section had lots of variety.
Kanto really had you travel around, more so than any other region. It's cities were interesting too. It is probably the second best region for me.
Johto is weak due to it really not having anything different and felt so condensed compared to Kanto. It did have some interesting cities though. I think Olivine City may be my favorite in the series.
Unova had many things happening in the cities. The only problem people really have with it is just the layout of the map. If it was laid out in a way that didn't look linear, people wouldn't at an eye at it.
Hoenn is the weakest due to water, but it's land section had lots of variety.
Kanto really had you travel around, more so than any other region. It's cities were interesting too. It is probably the second best region for me.
Johto is weak due to it really not having anything different and felt so condensed compared to Kanto. It did have some interesting cities though. I think Olivine City may be my favorite in the series.