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[Kyzer]

I would love a new pokemon snap and I think Pokemon would not only make a fantastic mmo but it would sell really well. Oh well I guess I'm an idiot.

This, plus they would see all the Pokemon being animated and think "LOOK, JUST ADD IN SOME MMO STUFF AND WE GOT A STEW GOING"

Literally a few posts before this someone said the same thing about Pokemon Snap. The models already exist in X and Y so just animate them. Which isn't totally untrue. Pokemon is already basically an MMO already, you just never interact with the other players in your physical world. But they're all right there. On your friends list and as passersby connected to the internet.

I don't know why anyone would be against any new Pokemon game unless they're so caught up in pride that their inherent disbelief in the games concept to do well, or their personal logical justification for the game to never exist doesn't allow them to enjoy the idea. Even more so be against or judge people who do want another kind of game. This is some GameFAQs level shit. You're all full of it. You are not de facto experts on squat nor are your opinions or ideas more true or valid so just let it go. Some people want a Pokemon MMO and there is zero concrete support for it being a "bad idea" .

Unless you're just tired of hearing about it. Then idk what to tell ya.

 

[Professor Beef]

I would love a new pokemon snap and I think Pokemon would not only make a fantastic mmo but it would sell really well. Oh well I guess I'm an idiot

...will not take the bait

 

[Kyzer]

What's so crazy about the idea of a Pokemon MMO? Please enlighten me.

 

[Snacks the sober sea lion]

MMO's are a shit-ton of work and upkeep, as well as people having ridiculous standards for MMO's. Plus the whole thing with Nintendo not having done an MMO before.

 

[Kyzer]

MMO's are a shit-ton of work and upkeep, as well as people having ridiculous standards for MMO's. Plus the whole thing with Nintendo not having done an MMO before.

But the whole idea is profitability. All that upkeep and work is a business decision to reap profits later, just like any other project. And wasn't Blizzards first MMO World of Warcraft? If square can make it work I'm sure Nintendo could too. But idk this is all speculation.

My point being, I can understand conservative skepticism. But outright adamant denial is way too extreme. People guffaw at the idea of a Pokemon MMO as if its some noob kids dream of people who don't really understand the real world or some shit, when its really not that crazy of an idea at all.

 

[Professor Beef]

All of the things people want from a Pokemon MMO are already available in-game. At this point, mentioning it is just a running joke.

 

[DaBoss]

I would rather get a Pokemon Snap sequel than not getting one at all. Even if it brings out the silliness for MMOs even more lol.

 

[FSLink]

All of the things people want from a Pokemon MMO are already available in-game. At this point, mentioning it is just a running joke.

Pretty much, only thing they could add is stuff like being able to run an actual gym or something, but they can expand this in sequels if they wanted to instead of making an MMO. (Oh god Gamefreak make it so you can do this through Secret Bases + Streetpass)

 

[Kyzer]

All of the things people want from a Pokemon MMO are already available in-game. At this point, mentioning it is just a running joke.

What?

A game in which you are running around the same world in real time as other trainers, everyone starting in a different region of a big cohesive world, and the ENTIRE GAME RUNNING AROUND CO-OP (AND PvP) are not available in the game. Either way why in the world would Nintendo release an MMO that was the same thing as the handheld games? Who is even saying that? Who wants a Pokemon MMO but wants it to be exactly like another handheld game? WTF?

Do you realize how ridiculous of a defense against the release of a Pokemon MMO that is?

"Nintendo should release a Pokemon MMO!"

"No, because it would be exactly like the handheld games."

First of all, who is anyone to say what the game would be like, and worse, use that as reason for the game to never be made?

Second of all, how the hell is this handheld game with a single player story that takes you through a one-time linear story by yourself along with a separate (albeit robust) multiplayer mode the same as what an MMO would be>??

A warcraft MMO would be stupid you can already play with other people and the only people that would play it are people who already play warcraft. Mentioning it is kind of a running joke at this point.


Conversely, open your mind, STRETCH that mind, if absolutely necessary, to comprehend the CONCEPT of the POSSIBILITY that a fully-featured Pokemon MMO would be a big deal, and POSSIBLY really good? As opposed to it being, you know LOLworthy for someone to even "mention" it.

 

[Wiseblade]

PSS is everything people whine about wanting from a Poké-MMO with none of the downsides.

1) The ability to interact with people in the same game location as you, withought having to fight over spawns in tall grass (whith the adddd bonus of interacting with people in close physical proximity).

2) Seeing if your friends and those you have played with recently are online and what they're up to, while also having the ability to play without an internet connection.

3) Participating in global battle challenges and trading on a global marketplace.

Anyone asking for an MMO now either hasn't played a Pokémon game in 5 years or doesn't know what's good for them.

 

[Professor Beef]

Nah, it wouldn't be good.

PSS is everything people whine about wanting from a Poké-MMO with none of the downsides.

The ability to interact with people in the same game location as you, withought having to fight over spawns in tall grass (whith the adddd bonus of interacting with people in close physical proximity).

Seeing if your friends and those you have played with recently are online and what they're up to.

Participating in global battle challenges and trading on a global marketplace.

but reasons, man

reasons

 

[Wiseblade]

There is a HUGE difference between "An always online Multiplayer RPG set in the Warcraft Universe" and "Pokémon, but always online". Maybe that comparison would work if WoW was an RTS where you had to march your army around into another player to start a battle, but it isn't.

 

[Snacks the sober sea lion]

Has there even been a battle event?

 

[Wiseblade]

Yes, multiple. There were a bunch for Gen V too. TPCi have been really proactive about National tournaments this generation too.

 

[Busaiku]

Why have there been no Pokemon distributions outside of like the very first.
Seriously, a worldwide launch means nothing if they're not doing anything else after that.

 

[strangedopamine]

I know I may be repeating what many others have said here before but:

The problem with releasing a Pokémon MMO at this time is that MMORPGs are in decline and are not a main focus in the industry anymore, their time in the spotlight has finished. World of Warcraft which is the largest of all of the MMORPGs has dropped to 7.6 million subscribers from a peak of 12 million in 2010. It is a marked decline that isn't showing any signs of recovering back to the old numbers.

I simply don't think it is wise to bring a seperate MMO game to market nowadays. It would be too big a risk for a potentially small reward. What Game Freak have done with B/W's Entralink and then X/Y's Player Search System are the MMO features that many have been asking for. There is room for improvement though and it is clear to see how much better the PSS is compared to the Entralink in terms of player communication features. It's simple and gets the job done.

 

[Kyzer]

PSS is everything people whine about wanting from a Poké-MMO with none of the downsides.

1) The ability to interact with people in the same game location as you, withought having to fight over spawns in tall grass (whith the adddd bonus of interacting with people in close physical proximity).

2) Seeing if your friends and those you have played with recently are online and what they're up to, while also having the ability to play without an internet connection.

3) Participating in global battle challenges and trading on a global marketplace.

Anyone asking for an MMO now either hasn't played a Pokémon game in 5 years or doesn't know what's good for them.

What man this is so offensive to me I can't even

I love Pokemon. I am always always always playing a mainline Pokemon game in some form or another, and have been for as long as I remember, no matter what other games I'm playing. Its actually probably a behavioral issue at this point.

PSS is from a Pokemon game from less than a year ago. To minimalize everything as having been long resolved is a gross over exaggeration. Seriously I haven't played a Pokemon game in the past 5 years if I want a Pokemon MMO?

Yo man I agree that with PSS the game is almost already an MMO. I've said this to friends. I like it and appreciate the advantages even.

But it's not an MMO. Its not what a Pokemon MMO would be and no one wants it to be.

There's a huge difference between an always online Pokemon and a Pokemon MASSIVE MULTIPLAYER experience.

I'm happy to hear you're satisfied with Pokemon as it is and can't fathom how a Pokemon MMO could be fun or different, but that has nothing to do with the prospect of a Pokemon MMO.

Even the way you say people "whine" about wanting things from an MMO.

You just don't want it. That's okay.

 

[Professor Beef]

The best part about that impassioned plea is that you never defined what a Pokemon MMO is to you, because everything was already outlined for you.

Everyone already grinds for exp.
Killing 20 of something for a prize? People do that with EV Training (which is even easier now).
PvP? Been done since Gen 4.

Like...what else is there?

 

[injurai]

fuck a Pokemon MMO

that shit would suck majorly.

 

[spiritfox]

Camping Mewtwo's spawn all day everyday.

 

[Busaiku]

Like...what else is there?

Maybe everyone actually wants to grind out against a high health Pokemon, where only 1 person can get the spoils.

 

[Kyzer]

The best part about that impassioned plea is that you never defined what a Pokemon MMO is to you, because everything was already outlined for you.

Everyone already grinds for exp.
Killing 20 of something for a prize? People do that with EV Training (which is even easier now).
PvP? Been done since Gen 4.

Like...what else is there?

What I want wasn't entirely relevant but I'd love a true living co op experience with my friends. If anything I would hope that GF did it their own way. Or whoever developed it. As opposed to being exactly like WoW. But even that would be pretty fun.

 

[Busaiku]

Like double battles?

 

[Vylash]

Why have there been no Pokemon distributions outside of like the very first.
Seriously, a worldwide launch means nothing if they're not doing anything else after that.

I have no idea, Wi-fi events can't possible be that hard (even though NOA is ridiculously lazy with them)

 

[Kyzer]

Like double battles?

Man you guys are really resistant, huh. Yeah kinda like double battles I guess, but I can chat with my friend, and afterward we can explore the Unknown Dungeon together, take on gyms, complete quests, go to town centers and participate in contests, go to the Pokemon Stadium and participate in a PvP tourney, idk man. It doesn't even matter. It could be a totally different experience entirely than what were used to with the handheld games or could even predict, who knows. It would be a different game. Its not like they would just release the same exact thing as the mainline games lol

 

[Boss Doggie]

UNF

Just by the preview alone Diantha has more personality and presence in the anime than in the game

also dat flirting sycamore

 

[Cute Dragon Here]

I think I have managed to stick with the ribbony Noivern for so long that it is beginning to feel old.

Maybe it's time for change.

 

[Macka]

You can pick five Pokemon from each generation that you'd like to see receive a Mega Evolution. Go.
---------
Arbok
Dugtrio
Arcanine
Rapidash
Muk
----------
Lanturn
Steelix
Magcargo
Kingdra
Donphan
----------
Sharpedo
Camerupt
Cacturne
Zangoose
Seviper
----------
Luxray
Spiritomb
Toxicroak
Gallade
Drapion
----------
Krookodile
Cofagrigus
Reuniclus
Beartic
Bisharp
----------
Pangoro
Malamar
Heliolisk
Hawlucha
Noivern
----------

 

[Wiseblade]

What man this is so offensive to me I can't even

Good, because it was meant to be.

I love Pokemon. I am always always always playing a mainline Pokemon game in some form or another, and have been for as long as I remember, no matter what other games I'm playing. Its actually probably a behavioral issue at this point.

The "I'm a real fan!" paragraph.

PSS is from a Pokemon game from less than a year ago. To minimalize everything as having been long resolved is a gross over exaggeration. Seriously I haven't played a Pokemon game in the past 5 years if I want a Pokemon MMO?

PSS is the evolution of the online and local Wifi features in Gen V. Which themselves take inspiration from the first steps taken in Gen IV. The GTS is 7 years old.

But it's not an MMO. Its not what a Pokemon MMO would be and no one wants it to be.

There's a huge difference between an always online Pokemon and a Pokemon MASSIVE MULTIPLAYER experience.

I'm happy to hear you're satisfied with Pokemon as it is and can't fathom how a Pokemon MMO could be fun or different, but that has nothing to do with the prospect of a Pokemon MMO.

OK, let's get real. How does a Pokémon MMO work in your mind? Because there's really only 3 ways to do it.

1. Go all the way WoW with it - so that's everyone on a shared world. Which is a TERRIBLE idea for a game built around solo exploration. It's all the jokes about "waiting for Mewtwo respawns" come to life.

2. Instance it to hell and back - which is basically what we have now, except towns become super crowded and offline play is dead. Which is a TERRIBLE idea. Pokémon is largely played solo. Forcing people to connect to a server to play single player is just creating another SimCity. A good comparison would be to look at Monster Hunter. MH4 is still going strong and nobody plays Frontier.

3. Don't make a Pokémon game - in which case, what's the point?

 

[DaBoss]

You can pick five Pokemon from each generation that you'd like to see receive a Mega Evolution. Go.

That's an interesting topic. Not gonna include any starters.

Gen 1: Arcanine, Clefable, Cloyster, Sandslash, & Golem
Gen 2: Lanturn, Skarmory, Azumarill, Donphan, & Foretress
Gen 3: Flygon, Metagross, Milotic, Altaria, & Glalie
Gen 4: Luxray, Gallade, Floatzel, Toxicroak, & Froslass
Gen 5: Haxorus, Bisharp, Galvantula, Krookodile, & Scrafty
Gen 6: Pangoro, Malamar, Barbacle, Heliolisk, & Hawlucha

Gen 6 is probably one that will be similar for most people.

 

[Busaiku]

Cause Kalos has like no Pokemon.

 

[Cute Dragon Here]

You can pick five Pokemon from each generation that you'd like to see receive a Mega Evolution. Go.
---------
Arcanine
----------
Lanturn
----------
Zangoose
----------
Luxray
----------
Reuniclus
----------
Noivern
----------

Spoiler

They're my favourites and cute enough to matter.

 

[Brawly Likes to Brawl]

Cause Kalos has like no Pokemon.

Still pretty miffed about that.

 

[JoeM86]

Still pretty miffed about that.

Counting Mega Evolutions, it's the second lowest.

I know they're not entirely new Pokémon, but they went through every process new Pokémon did. If we didn't get them, we'd have got new evolutions of old Pokémon to fill the dex, and people would moan at that

 

[Busaiku]

Or we could've had new Pokemon entirely, like Unova and Hoenn.

 

[Boss Doggie]

I just realized that Toho distributed pokemon movies, and apparently helped did some pokemon cries

 

[strangedopamine]

You can pick five Pokemon from each generation that you'd like to see receive a Mega Evolution. Go.

Gen 1: Sandslash, Persian, Machamp, Dewgong, Exeggutor.
Gen 2: Ledian, Lanturn, Sudowoodo, Octillery, Kingdra.
Gen 3: Ludicolo, Flygon, Cradily, Chimecho, Metagross
Gen 4: Kricketune, Luxray, Drifblim, Toxicroak, Togekiss
Gen 5: Whimsicott, Scrafty, Reuniclus, Vanilluxe, Galvantula
Gen 6: Pangoro, Malamar, Barbaracle, Heliolisk, Hawlucha

 

[Wichu]

You can pick five Pokemon from each generation that you'd like to see receive a Mega Evolution. Go.

1.
Raichu
Nidoqueen
Nidoking
Arcanine
Primeape
2.
Dunsparce
Quagsire
Steelix
Sunflora
Qwilfish
3.
Swellow
Delcatty
Sableye
Flygon
Tropius
4.
Staraptor
Luxray
Vespiquen
Toxicroak
Drapion
5.
Darmanitan
Zoroark
Golurk
Bisharp
Volcarona
6.
Florges
Heliolisk
Clawitzer
Dragalge
Hawlucha

I think this is a nice blend of Pokémon that need them (e.g. Sunflora) and ones where the Mega Evolution would just be awesome (e.g. Volcarona).

I didn't list anything that's pretty much guaranteed a Mega (or at least an alternate form), i.e. the other Hoenn starters, Kyogre / Groudon / Rayquaza, Zygarde.

 

[Snacks the sober sea lion]

You can pick five Pokemon from each generation that you'd like to see receive a Mega Evolution. Go.

None of them, screw Mega Evolutions.

Spoiler

Nidoking.

 

[Kyzer]

That's enough reason to never release a massive multiplayer Pokemon?

Why


I don't think its impossible...

I agree potential cannibalization of sales would be a huge obstacle though.

 

[Exterminieren]

1.
Dugtrio
Poliwrath
Farfetch'd
Primeape
Marowak

2.
Donphan
Smeargle
Delibird
Qwilfish
Dunsparce

3.
Ludicolo
Shiftry
Flygon
Claydol
Castform

4.
Luxray
Wormadam
Bronzong
Rotom
Roserade

5.
Scrafty
Crustle (Not terrible this time, please)
Cofagrigus
Zoroark
Golurk

6.
Hawlucha
Pangoro
Barbaracle
Heliolisk
Avalugg

Combination of Pokémon who could use a polish for the new metagame, Pokémon that I like that have fallen from prominence a bit, and Pokémon who present a great opportunity for a really interesting extension of their design. I mean... Cofagrigus? Barbaracle? Claydol? The potential for Megas that take their concepts further (think how Banette's Mega built on the concept of the ghost trapped in the doll, or how Kangaskhan built on the mother and child motif) is huge.

 

[Kyzer]

Gen I
1. Nidoking
2. Nidoqueen
3. Dragonite
4. Wigglytuff
5. Golduck

Gen II
1. Meganium
2. Typhlosion
3. Feraligatr
4. Steelix
5. Slowking

Gen III
1. Sceptile
2. Swampert
3. Metagross
4. Sharpedo
5. Dusclops


Gen IV
1. Torterra
2. Infernape
3. Empoleon
4. Rampardos
5. Bastiodon

Gen V
1. Serperior
2. Emboar
3. Samurott
4. Braviary
5. Druddigon

Gen VI
1. Chesnaught
2. Delphox
3. Greninja
4. Aegislash
5. Vivillon

 

[Busaiku]

The worst thing about Mega Evolutions thus far is that it could've been a tool to help less powerful Pokemon be more useful.
But for the most part, it just made some of the most powerful Pokemon even more powerful.

 

[strangedopamine]

The worst thing about Mega Evolutions thus far is that it could've been a tool to help less powerful Pokemon be more useful.
But for the most part, it just made some of the most powerful Pokemon even more powerful.

Not in Mega Garchomp's case. Garchomp is better to use than it's mega in almost every single way. That 10 base speed drop hurts it quite a bit.

 

[CassSept]

The worst thing about Mega Evolutions thus far is that it could've been a tool to help less powerful Pokemon be more useful.
But for the most part, it just made some of the most powerful Pokemon even more powerful.

Basically Gen IV again, huh. When they added a ton of evolutions I thought it would be to make some families viable (especially since some of these were butt ugly), but hope. Most of them did little to help their evolution trees, there were definitely other Pokemon that would be more suited for the exposure and freaking Dusclops got an evo. Dusclops! Seriously!?

Edit: Though in case of Gen VI they did a better job. Charizard is viable at last, huzzah!

 

[DaBoss]

The worst thing about Mega Evolutions thus far is that it could've been a tool to help less powerful Pokemon be more useful.
But for the most part, it just made some of the most powerful Pokemon even more powerful.

It did make some powerful Pokemon more powerful, but it doesn't do that for the most part. Nearly all of the megas are useful in some way or another.

Out of the ones I've used and seen being used, the nearly useless ones seem to be Absol, Houndoom, Heracross, and Blastoise. While Garchomp seems to be better off without using a mega stone.

 

[Firestorm]

The worst thing about Mega Evolutions thus far is that it could've been a tool to help less powerful Pokemon be more useful.
But for the most part, it just made some of the most powerful Pokemon even more powerful.

What? The best Megas are Kangaskhan, Venusaur, Mawile, Charizard, and Manectric I'd say. They were all practically unseen before. There are other ones who were indeed powerful without Mega forms and they are interesting in that their Mega forms allow for different strategies at the cost of taking up a mega slot (Tyranitar and Gyarados). There's also the relatively meh Pokémon who are still usable but not quite amazing (Lucario).

Mega Pokémon have been a really cool strategic addition to the game. Though it would be nice to see a Kangaskhan nerf for ORAS.

 

[Boss Doggie]

trevenant is so kawaii

remember those days where we speculate Oorotto?

 

[Kyzer]

Gourgeist, Palkia, and Krookodile all really push it when it comes to Pokemon designs. Really hard for me to explain them away when people who don't play see them.

 

[Macka]

Gourgeist, Palkia, and Krookodile all really push it when it comes to Pokemon designs. Really hard for me to explain them away when people who don't play see them.

What's wrong with Krookodile?