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Pokémon Community Thread 3: "Soon, All of Hoenn Will Be Under Its Withering Glare…"

Why would I be Lucifer?

Not Lucifer, Satan. Completely different unholy deities. ;P

And to answer your question, Rhythm Heaven is happiness and fun given corporeal form. If you enjoy music of any kind, chances are there's something for you in Rhythm Heaven. The games are tough but fair, and when you fail you know it was your fault and not the game's. Hence, to dislike Rhythm Heaven is to dislike fun and good game design, which is something only an unholy deity could do.
 
I think Starmie/Gengar will stay OU due to still being good - though it'll remain to be seen what new tricks XY'll bring to every aspect of the metagame, as we know too little about attacks and mechanics in general, let alone Fairy (aside from DRAGONKILLER status).

I don't know if another shift will be done that affects a large portion of the game, like the Physical/Special split - probably not...?
 
Lucifer is satan. Trust me. Raised as a fundamentalist for 20 years. He was the angel of music who wanted to be like God and was thus cast down from heaven. Lucifer is just his angelic name.
 

Kokonoe

Banned
1. Do you expect that X and Y will be your favorite/best Pokemon games?

Being as I haven't, in my point of view, felt a version ever being superior than the last after Gold and Silver, which, I consider better than Red and Blue, I highly doubt it. There are a lot of things to factor in why this won't be the best for me. Among the few things are certain designs, the theme of the world, the protagonists, and the newer art style. There are more things, but I feel that gives you enough idea of why I highly doubt it.

I am, however, anticipating these games as they are 3D, and I've been wanting 3D mainline games for a looooooooooooooooong time.

2. If you had to choose between Full 3D, Half 2D/3D, or Full 2D, what would you choose?

Depends on the time. Since I haven't had a Full 3D mainline game, I would say Full 3D. I do, however, love full 2D as well.

3. Is Full 3D or Full 2D better than Half 2D/3D?

Absolutely. One is not hindered by the other, and thus, will look a lot better.

4. How do you feel about the following designs:

Chespin
Not a favorite, but it's neat.
Fennekin
I like this, but at the same time, I feel it's head is way too big.
Froakie
I don't really care for Froakie too much. It's the looney tunes eyes.
Xerneas
Very cool, and makes me glad I'm picking X.
Yyveltal
Also pretty cool, but not as cool as Xerneas!
Pancham
Good, although, I may not use it.
Gogoat
I like it, but I feel it could be better.
Helioptile
I don't care for Helioptile much. Reminds me of Deedee from Dexter's Lab with it's eyes.
Fletchling
I like Robins, and I like Fletchling.
Talonflame
Beast Wars? I like this one a lot.
Skrelp
Don't really care much about this one.
Clauncher
Good
Vivillon
Awesome
Litleo
I don't overly dislike it, but it's not a favorite.
Flabebe
Weird. Don't care for it much.
Honeedge
I feel this one is too generic. Like, if you're going to make an object Pokemon, at least make it more than just that object. Magnemite is like an interesting contraption of all types of parts, almost like a junk robot, although this one...is just a sword.
Scatterbug
Thank goodness this turns into Vivillon
Spewpa
Thank goodness this turns into Vivillon
Newtwo
To be honest, I consider this an abomination of appearances and design. The toes are creepy, the head piece part is just there to hide it's oddly shaped head, and it has some weird double Gardevoir chest spike thing going on which looks awful.

The idea of a clone, designed to be the "perfect", getting a new form out of the blue is ridiculous. I also think that even adding it in the first place just takes away from Pokemon like Deoxys, which truly is an Alien DNA Pokemon from space.

Sylveon

I truly do not care for this Pokemon. I feel this one is also an abomination to Eevee line before it, and the heart ribbon organic bowties are very odd and disgusting. I think it's really the worst Pokemon design. It's as if the innocent little Eevee was taken to a mother daughter pageant, then, thrown into moemoekyuuuun animes, then, into Dr. Vegapunks lab, and walla! Sylveon.

5. How do you feel about the overworld graphics of X and Y?
They leave a lot to be desired, although, they have improved a bit since the initial showing. I hope they improve the canyon area as I felt that one was off.
6. How do you feel about the battle graphics of X and Y?
Pretty good, although, I feel it's kind of chalky on the textures. It looks good, though.
7. What year did you first own a Pokemon game?
1998
8. Which Pokemon game is your absolute favorite?
Pokemon Gold
9. What are your top 3 favorite Pokemon?
Mewtwo/Rayquaza
Bulbasaur
10. (If you played) Did you enjoy Red and Blue when the games initially came out?
Absolutely! I still enjoy them to this day. I have many fond memories of trading and battling with my friends, and taking the games along while I played Pokemon cards, to the movies, all types of fun. Truly great times.
11. How do you feel about Pokemon Yellow Version?
I love it, and I love the Surfing Pikachu minigame.
12. Is there anything in particular you dislike about Gamefreak?
I feel as if they've lost their way, in my point of view. At least, not in terms of sales, but I've felt a strong lack of charm and appeal from the games that I haven't felt in a while. I loved Diamond, but at the same time, I do get tired of playing the same thing over and over when they are "new" games. I felt the DS generation really extended the brand of the same ole same ole.

I also do not care for them removing great features like Pokemon following you (which would have been lovely in 3D and easier), Secret Bases, and other things.

I also don't care for the mainstream art style they use now. I like it, but at the same time, I would be utterly lying if I said it didn't feel like generic modernization.

13. What is your favorite Pokemon movie?

Mewtwo Returns

I think this movie helped cement my love for this Pokemon.

14. Do you feel Pokemon communities over the net are overly cynical and hyperbolic?
Very much so.
15. If you do think so, would you prefer if they were less cynical and hyperbolic? Or does it matter to you?
I would. In fact, I'd like that for all gaming communities.
16. If you were to rate on a out of 10 scale, what would you rate the following games?

Red & Blue 10/10
Gold & Silver 10/10
Ruby & Sapphire 9.5/10
Diamond & Pearl 9/10
Black & White 6/10

17. What is your favorite type?
Grass
18. Do you prefer 'cute' Pokemon over others?
No.
19. Do you believe using legendaries in a main playthrough is something you should avoid?
People should use whatever is fun for them.
20. Do you enjoy using legendaries in a main playthrough?
Yep.
21. What is the one Pokemon you dislike the most? (Just put a name here)
Sylveon
22. Which is better? Pokemon Black and White, or Black and White 2?
I'd say Black and White 2, I like all the previous generation Pokemon that are thrown into the wild + the intro area.
23. Did you watch the Pokemon anime growing up?
Yes, quite a bit up until Johto where I couldn't keep up with the episodes. I missed out on most Johto episodes.
24. Which Season did you start with?
1
25. What is your favorite Season?
Orange Islands. Lovely area and great themes and plot. I wish they made a game with this.
26. What website is your favorite place to discuss Pokemon?
I don't have a favorite.
27. What is your favorite Eevee Evolution?
Flareon
28. Which Nintendo home console is your favorite?
N64 with special mention to the Gamecube
29. Which Nintendo home console is your least favorite?
Wii

This console has way too many games I felt were not good, or just plain inferior to the N64 and Gamecube ones. It also has a lousy interface, and the motion controls were overly used in so many games where a simple button click would have been more than efficient. I felt a lot of the games had less content than Gamecube games.

Motion controls are innacurate outside of just shaking the controller, at that. The WiiWare games are mediocre, and the whole Wii Shop took forever to kick off.
30. Did you enjoy Pokemon Colosseum or Pokemon XD: Gale of Darkness?
I love these games, in fact, I tend to appreciate them more now as it gave us full 3D Pokemon games that weren't tied to a lot of the stuff the main series uses like Gym Leaders.
What's this survey for, Koko?

I'll answer it in a bit.

Knowledge and understanding of everyone's viewpoints. I consider this important, and figured this would be a formal way for everyone to express their views.

I think this would've been better had you made the survey in a different site instead of a long, page-stretching list.

I'll go and do that because it's actually starting to bug me (not the survey itself, but how often I'm having to scroll).

I didn't consider that, but how do you view others list via that site?

Also: Apologies for the long lists, but I kind of felt it was worth it for everyone to elaborate all their viewpoints clearly, so if we have to have a little page stretching, then so be it! I do appreciate you creating that, however.
 
1. Do you expect that X and Y will be your favorite/best Pokemon games?
I have no idea, it's too early to tell

2. If you had to choose between Full 3D, Half 2D/3D, or Full 2D, what would you choose?
Full 3D

3. Is Full 3D or Full 2D better than Half 2D/3D?
Yes

4. How do you feel about the following designs:
Chespin
Good

Fennekin
Good

Froakie
Terrible

Xerneas
Bad

Yveltal
Good

Pancham
Good

Gogoat
Good

Helioptile
Terrible

Fletchling
Good

Talonflame
OK

Skrelp
OK

Clauncher
Good

Vivillon
Good

Litleo
OK

Flabebe
OK

Honeedge
OK

Scatterbug
OK

Spewpa
OK

Newtwo
Terrible

Sylveon
OK

5. How do you feel about the overworld graphics of X and Y?
Kinda rough-looking

6. How do you feel about the battle graphics of X and Y?
Slightly better-looking

7. What year did you first own a Pokemon game?
1998

8. Which Pokemon game is your absolute favorite?
Crystal

9. What are your top 3 favorite Pokemon?
Drapion

10. (If you played) Did you enjoy Red and Blue when the games initially came out?
Yes

11. How do you feel about Pokemon Yellow Version?
Ambivalent

12. Is there anything in particular you dislike about Gamefreak?
Honestly, no, they're alright

13. What is your favorite Pokemon movie?
Don't watch the anime

14. Do you feel Pokemon communities over the net are overly cynical and hyperbolic?
I feel that Pokémon communities need to calm down about how people might want to play using certain rules. They're not making you do it, so piss off already

15. If you do think so, would you prefer if they were less cynical and hyperbolic? Or does it matter to you?
Doesn't matter

16. If you were to rate on a out of 10 scale, what would you rate the following games?
Red & Blue
7

Gold & Silver
8

Ruby & Sapphire
6

Diamond & Pearl
7

Black & White
6

17. What is your favorite type?
Electric

18. Do you prefer 'cute' Pokemon over others?
Not really, although I do like some 'cute' Pokémon

19. Do you believe using legendaries in a main playthrough is something you should avoid?
No, because I used Zapdos in FR/LG

20. Do you enjoy using legendaries in a main playthrough?
Yes, because I used Zapdos in FR/LG

21. What is the one Pokemon you dislike the most? (Just put a name here)
Lumineon

22. Which is better? Pokemon Black and White, or Black and White 2?
BW2

23. Did you watch the Pokemon anime growing up?
A little bit

24. Which Season did you start with?
1

25. What is your favorite Season?
Don't know

26. What website is your favorite place to discuss Pokemon?
Smogon (technically their IRC)

27. What is your favorite Eevee Evolution?
Jolteon

28. Which Nintendo home console is your favorite?
SNES/Gamecube

29. Which Nintendo home console is your least favorite?
Wii

30. Did you enjoy Pokemon Colosseum or Pokemon XD: Gale of Darkness?
Yes
 

Kokonoe

Banned
I forgot Noivern. Whoops.

That's also a pretty neat design.

Also:

Everyone, thanks for your lists, they've been nice reads.
 

Busaiku

Member
1. Do you expect that X and Y will be your favorite/best Pokemon games?
Probably not, it looks much slower than 5th gen.
And it doesn't have Whimsicott.

2. If you had to choose between Full 3D, Half 2D/3D, or Full 2D, what would you choose?
Full 3D.

3. Is Full 3D or Full 2D better than Half 2D/3D?
Yes.

4. How do you feel about the following designs:

Chespin
It's ok.
Fennekin
Liked it, but ears weird me out more and more every day.
Froakie
It's ok.
Xerneas
It's ok.
Yyveltal
It's ok.
Pancham
Eh.
Gogoat
Eh.
Helioptile
It's ok.
Fletchling
It's ok.
Talonflame
Eh.
Skrelp
Scary.
Clauncher
Eh.
Vivillon
Great.
Litleo
Bad.
Flabebe
Great.
Honeedge
Lame.
Scatterbug
Eh.
Spewpa
It's ok.
Newtwo
5 more minutes.
Sylveon
Eh.

5. How do you feel about the overworld graphics of X and Y?
Looks great.

6. How do you feel about the battle graphics of X and Y?
Looks great.

7. What year did you first own a Pokemon game?
1998

8. Which Pokemon game is your absolute favorite?
Black 2

9. What are your top 3 favorite Pokemon?
1. Whimsicott
2. Jirachi
3. Pikachu

10. (If you played) Did you enjoy Red and Blue when the games initially came out?
Yes.

11. How do you feel about Pokemon Yellow Version?
Pokemon should always follow us around.

12. Is there anything in particular you dislike about Gamefreak?
Not really.

13. What is your favorite Pokemon movie?
Jirachi Wishmaker maybe.
Don't like any movies really.

14. Do you feel Pokemon communities over the net are overly cynical and hyperbolic?
I dunno.

15. If you do think so, would you prefer if they were less cynical and hyperbolic? Or does it matter to you?
Nope.

16. If you were to rate on a out of 10 scale, what would you rate the following games?
How I probably felt when I 1st played them.
Red & Blue
8
Gold & Silver
N/A
Ruby & Sapphire
N/A
Diamond & Pearl
7
Black & White
10

17. What is your favorite type?
Probably Grass.

18. Do you prefer 'cute' Pokemon over others?
Clearly.

19. Do you believe using legendaries in a main playthrough is something you should avoid?
I tend to.

20. Do you enjoy using legendaries in a main playthrough?
It doesn't really matter.

21. What is the one Pokemon you dislike the most? (Just put a name here)
Probably Geodude.

22. Which is better? Pokemon Black and White, or Black and White 2?
Pokemon Black 2.

23. Did you watch the Pokemon anime growing up?
Yes.

24. Which Season did you start with?
Kanto.

25. What is your favorite Season?
Unova.

26. What website is your favorite place to discuss Pokemon?
Here.

27. What is your favorite Eevee Evolution?
Flareon.

28. Which Nintendo home console is your favorite?
Wii

29. Which Nintendo home console is your least favorite?
Nintendo 64

30. Did you enjoy Pokemon Colosseum or Pokemon XD: Gale of Darkness?
Didn't play them.
 

DaBoss

Member
I just realized, there are Pokémon I dislike.

I don't like Samurott on the design front. Going from Dewott to Samurott was just a "what?" moment for me. It is OK in the games (though mine was pretty shitty). I don't really not like it, but am just disappointed with it.

The same applies to Sceptile, but to a greater magnitude. Grovyle is probably my favourite Grass-type Pokémon out of them all (till Chespin that is lol). It evolving into Sceptile was just "WHY?" for me. It probably is the only Pokémon I can safely say I don't like for sure with no other thoughts about it.
 
So guys I think I'm going to try to record the first episode of the podcast next week, but I need a title. I'm considering naming it "Elite Four" since the four regulars will be Beef, Aggro, Emitan and I, but that might be too pretentious. Any suggestions?

Oh, and while I'm at it, does anyone know where I could find an artist who would do a piece for free/cheap? I want a titlecard for the podcast the looks like this, except with Scrafty, Murkrow, Raichu and Agumon.
 

MikeMyers

Member
1. Do you expect that X and Y will be your favorite/best Pokemon games?
Don't know

2. If you had to choose between Full 3D, Half 2D/3D, or Full 2D, what would you choose?
Full 3D

3. Is Full 3D or Full 2D better than Half 2D/3D?
Yes

4. How do you feel about the following designs:
I'm avoiding most X&Y stuff until I actually play the game, so pass.

5. How do you feel about the overworld graphics of X and Y?
I'm avoiding most X&Y stuff until I actually play the game, so pass.

6. How do you feel about the battle graphics of X and Y?
I'm avoiding most X&Y stuff until I actually play the game, so pass.

7. What year did you first own a Pokemon game?
2000

8. Which Pokemon game is your absolute favorite?
Either Yellow or Leaf Green

9. What are your top 3 favorite Pokemon?
Gyarados, Tyranitar, Hydregion

10. (If you played) Did you enjoy Red and Blue when the games initially came out?
Yes

11. How do you feel about Pokemon Yellow Version?
Love it

12. Is there anything in particular you dislike about Gamefreak?
There hatred towards Ice types.

13. What is your favorite Pokemon movie?
Pokemon 3

14. Do you feel Pokemon communities over the net are overly cynical and hyperbolic?
Yes

15. If you do think so, would you prefer if they were less cynical and hyperbolic? Or does it matter to you?
I just hate how its GEN WARS all over the place, and to be honest, its why I was hesitant to answer this.

16. If you were to rate on a out of 10 scale, what would you rate the following games?
Kanto: 9/10. Nothing to do post-game, except catch Mewtwo
Johto; 8/10. Felt a bit empty to me, enjoyed the remakes better
Hoenn: 7/10: Falls apart at the end, too much damn water.
Sinnoh: 6/10: Fell poorly planned, although Platinum patched up a lot of problems. Love the Physical/Special Split
Unova: 8/10: The only one wherd I still enjoy after beating the game, thanks to infinite TM's and stuff.

17. What is your favorite type?
Flying

18. Do you prefer 'cute' Pokemon over others?
Not really,

19. Do you believe using legendaries in a main playthrough is something you should avoid?
Yeah

20. Do you enjoy using legendaries in a main playthrough?
No, they're pretty cheap

21. What is the one Pokemon you dislike the most? (Just put a name here)
Empoleon

22. Which is better? Pokemon Black and White, or Black and White 2?
BW1

23. Did you watch the Pokemon anime growing up?
Yeah, I've seen everything of Kanto-Johto

24. Which Season did you start with?
1

25. What is your favorite Season?
Orange Islands

26. What website is your favorite place to discuss Pokemon?
PokeGAF

27. What is your favorite Eevee Evolution?
Flareon

28. Which Nintendo home console is your favorite?
Dont own any...but probably N64

29. Which Nintendo home console is your least favorite?
Uh, Wii U, I guess.

30. Did you enjoy Pokemon Colosseum or Pokemon XD: Gale of Darkness?
Didn't play them.
 
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Flawless logic.
 

harmonize

Member
I've actually been wondering what they could have meant by using this at E3:

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I don't think it indicates the possibility of Red and Blue remakes, as the header indicates that the chart is focused on the X and Y games themselves, but to include something so specific seems odd.
 

entremet

Member
Little Big PokeGAF survey. Don't hold anything back, I want honest opinions here.

1. Do you expect that X and Y will be your favorite/best Pokemon games?
Most likely. The visible EV mechanics seem much better.
2. If you had to choose between Full 3D, Half 2D/3D, or Full 2D, what would you choose?
3D
3. Is Full 3D or Full 2D better than Half 2D/3D?
Full 3D
4. How do you feel about the following designs:

Chespin
Good
Fennekin
Good
Froakie
Good
Xerneas
Great
Yyveltal
Great
Pancham
Great
Gogoat
Good
Helioptile
Meh
Fletchling
Great
Talonflame
Great
Skrelp
Good
Clauncher
Good
Vivillon
Good
Litleo
Terrible
Flabebe
Good
Honeedge
Good
Scatterbug
Good
Spewpa
Good
Newtwo
Great
Sylveon
Great
5. How do you feel about the overworld graphics of X and Y?
Decent.
6. How do you feel about the battle graphics of X and Y?
Good
7. What year did you first own a Pokemon game?
1998
8. Which Pokemon game is your absolute favorite?
B2W2
9. What are your top 3 favorite Pokemon?
Dragonite, Gengar, Eevee
10. (If you played) Did you enjoy Red and Blue when the games initially came out?
Definitely
11. How do you feel about Pokemon Yellow Version?
My favorite Gen I version. Sprite work was so much better
12. Is there anything in particular you dislike about Gamefreak?
Lack of consistency with game features. I hope they don't remove the repel mechanic.
13. What is your favorite Pokemon movie?
The second with Lugia. Only watched the first two.
14. Do you feel Pokemon communities over the net are overly cynical and hyperbolic?Not too familiar with them other than PokeGAF, who are scholars and gentlemen.

15. If you do think so, would you prefer if they were less cynical and hyperbolic? Or does it matter to you?
I don't care
16. If you were to rate on a out of 10 scale, what would you rate the following games?

Red & Blue7
Gold & Silver8
Ruby & Sapphire Still unplayed
Diamond & Pearl Unplayed technically, but played Platinum, which is a 8.
Black & White 10

17. What is your favorite type?
Dragon
18. Do you prefer 'cute' Pokemon over others?
No
19. Do you believe using legendaries in a main playthrough is something you should avoid?
Yes
20. Do you enjoy using legendaries in a main playthrough?
No
21. What is the one Pokemon you dislike the most? (Muk)

22. Which is better? Pokemon Black and White, or Black and White 2?
The sequels
23. Did you watch the Pokemon anime growing up?
Yes
24. Which Season did you start with?
1
25. What is your favorite Season?
1 and the only one I saw.
26. What website is your favorite place to discuss Pokemon?
NeoGAF
27. What is your favorite Eevee Evolution?
Glaceon
28. Which Nintendo home console is your favorite?
SNES
29. Which Nintendo home console is your least favorite?
Gamecube
30. Did you enjoy Pokemon Colosseum or Pokemon XD: Gale of Darkness?
Did not play
.
 

Kokonoe

Banned
Judging by the other answers on that document, I wrote way too much. :p

I agree with what you're saying, and I also want to elaborate that what I meant by hyperbole in the survey is just all the nonsensical bickering you just described, not people having opinions. More tact the better.

I've actually been wondering what they could have meant by using this at E3:

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I don't think it indicates the possibility of Red and Blue remakes, as the header indicates that the chart is focused on the X and Y games themselves, but to include something so specific seems odd.

Interesting. Maybe it means 151 new Pokemon? Or maybe a special feature if you collect the first 151?
 
I agree with what you're saying, and I also want to elaborate that what I meant by hyperbole in the survey is just all the nonsensical bickering you just described, not people having opinions. More tact the better.

Aw, jeez...

I wasn't too tactless, was I? I know I have a bad habit of saying things rude that I don't consider as so...
 

Kokonoe

Banned
Aw, jeez...

I wasn't too tactless, was I? I know I have a bad habit of saying things rude that I don't consider as so...

I'm not going to act like I've been perfect either. Two wrongs don't make a right. As long as we learn from our mistakes, it makes the community better!
 

qq more

Member
I've actually been wondering what they could have meant by using this at E3:

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I don't think it indicates the possibility of Red and Blue remakes, as the header indicates that the chart is focused on the X and Y games themselves, but to include something so specific seems odd.

I know it won't happen but I would totally buy a Pokemon Red/Blue 3D remake Day 1.
 

Aggrotek

Member
So guys I think I'm going to try to record the first episode of the podcast next week, but I need a title. I'm considering naming it "Elite Four" since the four regulars will be Beef, Aggro, Emitan and I, but that might be too pretentious. Any suggestions?

Oh, and while I'm at it, does anyone know where I could find an artist who would do a piece for free/cheap? I want a titlecard for the podcast the looks like this, except with Scrafty, Murkrow, Raichu and Agumon.

You could name it The Pokémon League? Or just The League.

I dunno.
 

DaBoss

Member
I've actually been wondering what they could have meant by using this at E3:

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I don't think it indicates the possibility of Red and Blue remakes, as the header indicates that the chart is focused on the X and Y games themselves, but to include something so specific seems odd.
Interesting. Maybe it means 151 new Pokemon? Or maybe a special feature if you collect the first 151?

They've got link cables up there too, so unless you guys think they'll be making link cables for X and Y and not use the 3DS's built in wireless capabilities, you shouldn't put much weight into it. :p

I think 151 is up there because it was THE number of Pokémon people wanted to go after in the original games.

EDIT: A better way to word it is this way; it is a simpler way of saying catch'em all and 151 was the original catch'em all.
 

qq more

Member
I didn't even notice Link Cables...


...What if


What if

:O

Pokemon R/B VC rerelease and X/Y has the ability of transferring the R/B Pokemon to the game via special VC emulation?!


let me dream!
 

entremet

Member
I've actually been wondering what they could have meant by using this at E3:

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I don't think it indicates the possibility of Red and Blue remakes, as the header indicates that the chart is focused on the X and Y games themselves, but to include something so specific seems odd.

Nah. Those are just innovations of the series through the years.
 

Kokonoe

Banned
They've got link cables up there too, so unless you guys think they'll be making link cables for X and Y and not use the 3DS's built in wireless capabilities, you shouldn't put much weight into it. :p

I think 151 is up there because it was THE number of Pokémon people wanted to go after in the original games.

EDIT: A better way to word it is this way; it is a simpler way of saying catch'em all and 151 was the original catch'em all.

Imagine if they kept using the "Gotta Catch 'em all!" slogan.

"There's 700+ Pokemon out there! Do you wanna be a master? GOTTA CATCH 'EM ALL!"
 

qq more

Member
That reminds me. What games have you guys completed a regional Pokedex in?

I haven't done it yet but I was pretty close with Fire Red with the Kanto dex. I was just missing Mew + some of the Leaf Green exclusives.
 
That reminds me. What games have you guys completed a regional Pokedex in?

I haven't done it yet but I was pretty close with Fire Red with the Kanto dex. I was just missing Mew + some of the Leaf Green exclusives.

I've completed the regional 'Dex in all of them, but the closest I've ever gotten to the National was obtaining 430/493 in SoulSilver. I'm just too busy to trade all of them up to the newest version -_-;
 

DaBoss

Member
I completed it in Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald and in Black 2 only. I'm close to finishing the National in Black 2, though I'm not sure whether I will get to finishing it or not.

Hoping for some 3DS box app with mass transferring like Pokemon Stadium or Pokemon Box.

Yes, I'm hoping for that too if they are able to make transferring Pokémon work.
 

entremet

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I've completed the regional 'Dex in all of them, but the closest I've ever gotten to the National was obtaining 430/493 in SoulSilver. I'm just too busy to trade all of them up to the newest version -_-;

I completed the full Dexes in Gen I/II.

With plus 600 pokes, completing the national dex is just too insane now, plus GF's dumb transfer mechanics.

I gave up my White 2 National Dex challenge, although you do get a great prize this time.
 

harmonize

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Nah. Those are just innovations of the series through the years.
They all seem to be innovations other than 151 and Pokedex. Link cables were the only means of trading before the wireless accessory with Firered and Leafgreen, so it'd make sense to place it in the Trade category. I think there's could be more of an ulterior motive than just using it as some obscure colloquialism for "catch 'em all", which the term Pokedex would probably be better to express that sentiment since newer fans aren't exactly well-versed with how many Pokemon were in each region.
 

entremet

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They all seem to be innovations other than 151 and Pokedex. Link cables were the only means of trading before the wireless accessory with Firered and Leafgreen, so it'd make sense to place it in the Trade category. I think there's could be more of an ulterior motive than just using it as some obscure colloquialism for "catch 'em all", which the term Pokedex would probably be better to express that sentiment since newer fans aren't exactly well-versed with how many Pokemon were in each region.

Well innovations not just for the sequels but for the games themselves--151 and the Dex were absolutely innovations for newcomers in Gen I.
 
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