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Pokémon Community Thread 4: "Your Portal to What's Hip and Happening in Sinnoh!"
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Greninja IS awesome, but it admittedly kind of bugs me when the franchise props up one starter over the other two.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
I wonder if in the next iteration, Greninja's FS becomes Ash-Greninja. I mean he'll get a powerful Shuriken, the ability to "float", and is probably faster.
That's good and bad at the same time. It's bad if the starter that you like the most wasn't the one featured, you'll be like poor ____. Or 2___ is way better than 1___, etc...
It's good since like all players ash has to choose and I guess bond with one starter.
Yeah. I think it's fine in stuff like Smash because obviously it's not feasible to include all the starters all the time, but like in the show I don't know why at least evolving all the starters on the main cast and giving them fair screentime and arcs is so much to ask for.
I'm just salty I guess cause I really like Chesnaught and I feel like I barely see it in anything, lmao
Not75Drops
Member
I think it's mainly marketing/popularity. The final evolutions of the Unova starters for example weren't hugely popular, which is probably why none reached that far in the anime. I also think I remember hearing that the anime team didn't want to evolve Piplup because Prinplup was ugly or something.
If you are a charizard fan then you really cant talk, I mean giving him two megas while all the other pokes only have one? WHAT???
Yeah I thought that was kind of ridiculous as well.
I got tired of the anime and haven't watched it in months (2 years of watching the same shit get's old), but really it's no surprise that they're focusing on Greninja. In most regions Ash goes to there's usually that one starter who gets lots of the focus, the likes of Charizard and Greninja are popular among fans and the writers play to their popularity and give them loads of screentime over their counterparts.
It's basically a business decision tbh, the showrunners aren't giving Charizard/Greninja lots of screentime to annoy you, they're doing it to get people to watch the anime and make money. If you aren't a fan of one of the overexposed starters than all you have to do is wait until they get Oak'd when PikaAsh go to the next region, and then hope that your favourite starter of the new region is the one chosen to be in the limelight.
It's basically a business decision tbh, the showrunners aren't giving Charizard/Greninja lots of screentime to annoy you, they're doing it to get people to watch the anime and make money. If you aren't a fan of one of the overexposed starters than all you have to do is wait until they get Oak'd when PikaAsh go to the next region, and then hope that your favourite starter of the new region is the one chosen to be in the limelight.
Yeah I don't want Marshmallow to suffer the same treatment that Zygarde suffered in gen 6.
One starter is bound to get more popular than the others thus get pushed more but it doesn't mean that the other starters don't have their fans.
Plus Piplup was really popular so they didn't want to kill merchandising sales hence why it started popping out of Pokéball more often.
As a Charizard fan and a trainer I don't care for Charizard two mega as mine likes to prove that he's stronger without it.
He already took down Mega Gardevoir, Mega Metagross, Mega Gallade, Mega Absol and Mega Salamence.
Plus I kinda don't like the idea that mega stones are powered by dead Pokémon.
Sounds like somebody needs to go to jelly school.
Charizard is amazing. He's a lizard with wings who breathes fire! Simple designs aren't inherently bad.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
The fact chimchars flame is still going is retarded lolOk, what the hell.
It's how they escaped!
If pokemon are omnivores/carnivores and they eat other pokemon (not going in on the pokemon animals thing lol) they are technically powered by dead pokemon.
It's come to a point where I can sense a contest loss. Dawn has 4 ribbons and it's still the first half of Galactic Battles. A contest is coming up. She will lose that and her confidence before just barely winning the last one for the Grand Festival. I actually haven't seen all of DP, so I'm just guessing.
TriggerShy
Member
I have all three if you still need them.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
Hehe....
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Ash having more than one starter is a bad idea though. Even DP couldn't handle it.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
You think? I thought Dp handled it very well. Unova on the other hand
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Johto OS and Unova showed it pretty bad, and I thought DP still gave Infernape more focus.
With that said I like how in XY all mons are getting focus even in the background.
With that said I like how in XY all mons are getting focus even in the background.
I don't care how they do it. As long as all 3 starters are present. Chimchar definitely had more screen-time and development than Turtwig which also led into his rivalry with Paul. It can be a little jarring.
Now that I think about it, Ash never had a team with 3 fully evolved starters. The closest he ever got was in DP with Infernape and Torterra. To my knowledge, Bulbasaur and Squirtle never evolved once. Cyndaquil evolved into Quilava and none of the other gen 2 starters did at all. He had just Sceptile in gen 3. I already mentioned gen 4. Only Tepig evolved in Gen 5. And finally we have Greninja.
Called it...
Now that I think about it, Ash never had a team with 3 fully evolved starters. The closest he ever got was in DP with Infernape and Torterra. To my knowledge, Bulbasaur and Squirtle never evolved once. Cyndaquil evolved into Quilava and none of the other gen 2 starters did at all. He had just Sceptile in gen 3. I already mentioned gen 4. Only Tepig evolved in Gen 5. And finally we have Greninja.
Called it...
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
Hmm idk I still say Dp did the two starters he had massive justice compared to every other saga.
Chimchar had the Paul plot and blaze.
Turtwig was a prominent fighter for what like 4-5 gyms,the evolution problem with losing its speed and learning to use defense instead.
X&y and D&p treated his teams the best
Chimchar had the Paul plot and blaze.
Turtwig was a prominent fighter for what like 4-5 gyms,the evolution problem with losing its speed and learning to use defense instead.
X&y and D&p treated his teams the best
Shadow Broker
Banned
Since Ash started his synchro thing with Greninja it feels like he's relying on solely Greninja too much and it's affecting his team besides Pikachu.
I haven't watched the last few anime episode but Niovern seems like a Jobber instead of a power house that he should be. Hawlucha could go either way depending on the battle situation. TalonFlame felt stronger in his pre evolution stages. Pikachu is Pikachu. And Greninja is a power house not because he's a great Pokémon but because of the Synchro thing. Don't get me wrong, Greninja is strong with out the bond but it's relied upon too much.
And that's what makes him great, he's simple in design.
Is Ash ever going to catch his 6th Pokémon or is he just going to stick with the same old 5 Pokémon?
That's different as Mega stone were created by Pokémon that were sacrifice to power AZ's weapon.
That alone just puts me off using it.
Hmm not really they started off great with Turtwig but once he evolved into a Torterra he ended being a jobber.
Infernape was clearly the star starter on Ash's team.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
There's always a star. Greninja is the star this saga
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Nah the other mons still do a lot of shit, especially Hawlucha. They even made Pikachu get angry at Ash for not being used in battles a lot lol
And nah Noivern ain't a jobber. His only lose so far is the battle with Metang and Clawitzer (both logical losses), and even won against a mon he is not very effective with (Doublade).
Chikorita evolved into Bayleaf.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
Everybody always forgets poor bayleaf.
His only Pokémon to evolve during Johto, god was Ash Johto team boring.
Oh...
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
And Quilava in DP
Oh yeah his Cyndaquil evolved in Sinnoh, so random how that happened.
Shame that they didn't do a Sinnoh frontier arc as that would have been better suited for Ash's Cyndaquil to evolve all the way.
Shadow Broker
Banned
So my daughter is a big eevee fan. She ask me if Pokémon were real what would be you're signature Pokémon and what would be you're Pokémon team?
Hers would be
Eevee - signature Pokémon meaning she'll always have a Eevee with her.
Jolteon - her favorite Eeveelution.
Glaceon
Flareon
Espeon
Umbreon
Mine would be
Weavile - signature Pokémon
Dragonite - tied favorite Pokémon with Weavile
Gengar - loved Gengar since the opening scene of him battling Nidorino in Red / Blue
Valcarona - This is my favorite bug Pokémon. If there's a suitable replacement for him in Gen 7 I will.
Electivire - My team's Hawlucha. Won't lie, if Rowlet turns out to be a awesome speedy physical attacker I'll replace Electivire with him.
Milotic - She would be my team leading lady and their shield.
So PokéGaf, what would be your signature Pokémon and what would be your 6 Pokémon team?
Hers would be
Eevee - signature Pokémon meaning she'll always have a Eevee with her.
Jolteon - her favorite Eeveelution.
Glaceon
Flareon
Espeon
Umbreon
Mine would be
Weavile - signature Pokémon
Dragonite - tied favorite Pokémon with Weavile
Gengar - loved Gengar since the opening scene of him battling Nidorino in Red / Blue
Valcarona - This is my favorite bug Pokémon. If there's a suitable replacement for him in Gen 7 I will.
Electivire - My team's Hawlucha. Won't lie, if Rowlet turns out to be a awesome speedy physical attacker I'll replace Electivire with him.
Milotic - She would be my team leading lady and their shield.
So PokéGaf, what would be your signature Pokémon and what would be your 6 Pokémon team?
Professor Beef
Banned
I always like thinking about this tbh
Signature: Arbok (I just like him, ok?)
Arbok
Rhydon
Kingdra
Ludicolo
Meowth
Dragonite
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
Carbink- signature pokemon it stole my heart in xy and early game multiplayer when everyone was trying to figure out the new mons had me wrecking fools with stealthrocks,toxic and dazzling gleam.
Leavanny-greatest bug enough said
Flygon- best dragon,needs a mega
Krookidile- fell in love with this entire line
Dewott- a samurai otter with two swords(shells)...enough said
Snorlax- still my favorite gen 1 Mon.
My team is pretty unbalanced and idk how they'd fair in a match online but hell I like it
Leavanny-greatest bug enough said
Flygon- best dragon,needs a mega
Krookidile- fell in love with this entire line
Dewott- a samurai otter with two swords(shells)...enough said
Snorlax- still my favorite gen 1 Mon.
My team is pretty unbalanced and idk how they'd fair in a match online but hell I like it
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Altaria
Torterra
Wigglytuff
Yanmega
Aurorus
Signature: Chandelure
A team that represents every gen.
That would have to be my trusty partner Charizard who has a unique condition* that after a very harsh battle he reverts back into a Charmander as he's unable to maintain the energy that an average Charizard needs.
*It's a thing that I made up for my head story to explain why my Charizard was a Charmander for each version I play as I have used him throughout the generation.
As for my team, would be hard to say as I have used a lot of Pokémon and they are all great.
Really can't wait to travel through the Alola region with Charmander.
Your daughter has excellent taste.
Umbreon (rests on shoulder style signiture)
Electivire
Garchomp
Gardevoir
Aggron
Suicune
If freaking Tobias can have a Darkrai, I can have a Suicune.
dakkumauji
Member
Red looks spiffy
Brock and Joy's getting figures too
ArchedThunder
Banned
How much are these going to cost? I would love to get that Red.
I mean if Pokemon were real, I'd totally use the strongest stuff that makes me win the most, so I'd use something similar to what I used when people would randomly challenge me on PSS...
Mega Rayquaza: How can I resist something so deliciously broken?
Xerneas: I bet I could rule the world with Power Herb Xerneas!
Normal Arceus: Well I mean if I want to be the strongest, I better have the Pokegod on my side!
Ground Arceus: Make that two Pokegods, gotta nail Primal Groudon ya know!
Primal Groudon: Gotta control the weather, plus what if someone tries to rain on my parade with a Kyogre? I won't have any picnics ruined!
Wobbuffet (Signature Pokemon): Wobbuffet is the Pokemon that defines me: I love trapping stuff in the game with Shadow Tag and Encoring to set up other mons, so I imagine I'd love it even more in real life where I get to see the opponent's face!